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Re: University of North Carolina 2013

Postby jss1100 » Mon Feb 15, 2010 2:27 pm

LSATfromNC wrote:What do you guys think about the relatively low 9 month employment statistics from UNC, compared to other similar ranked schools. The more I think about it, my draw to UNC over Wake is more based on what some magazine says, but it is deeply engrained :)


I worry about the employment/unemployment stats too.

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Re: University of North Carolina 2013

Postby LSATfromNC » Mon Feb 15, 2010 4:26 pm

Thought I would share this. There may be more at each school that make more than this, but there is no less provided schools didn't lie to US News (which they probably did). This was for the 2007 class so it is considerably worse now, but the rank of who gets more high paying jobs should be the same.

Duke at least 87 people (38%) make at least $160,000
UVA at least 103 people (28%) make at least $145,000
Vanderbilt at least 60 people (26%) make at least $145,000
UNC at least 54 students (23%) make at least $115,000
Emory at least 50 people (22%) make at least $130,000
W&M at least 41 people (20%) make at least $135,000
Wake Forest at least 31 people (18.5%) make at least $115,000
W&L at least 18 people (14.5%) make at least $105,000

For the local crowd:
Campbell at least 30 people (27%) make at least $50,000
North Carolina Central did not answer US News (employment rate 9 months out was under 90%).

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Re: University of North Carolina 2013

Postby lawhawk » Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:07 pm

LSATfromNC wrote:Thought I would share this. There may be more at each school that make more than this, but there is no less provided schools didn't lie to US News (which they probably did). This was for the 2007 class so it is considerably worse now, but the rank of who gets more high paying jobs should be the same.

Duke at least 87 people (38%) make at least $160,000
UVA at least 103 people (28%) make at least $145,000
Vanderbilt at least 60 people (26%) make at least $145,000
UNC at least 54 students (23%) make at least $115,000
Emory at least 50 people (22%) make at least $130,000
W&M at least 41 people (20%) make at least $135,000
Wake Forest at least 31 people (18.5%) make at least $115,000
W&L at least 18 people (14.5%) make at least $105,000

For the local crowd:
Campbell at least 30 people (27%) make at least $50,000
North Carolina Central did not answer US News (employment rate 9 months out was under 90%).


When did the legal market take a nosedive? good stuff.

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Re: University of North Carolina 2013

Postby tstyler98 » Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:45 pm

lawhawk wrote:
LSATfromNC wrote:Thought I would share this. There may be more at each school that make more than this, but there is no less provided schools didn't lie to US News (which they probably did). This was for the 2007 class so it is considerably worse now, but the rank of who gets more high paying jobs should be the same.

Duke at least 87 people (38%) make at least $160,000
UVA at least 103 people (28%) make at least $145,000
Vanderbilt at least 60 people (26%) make at least $145,000
UNC at least 54 students (23%) make at least $115,000
Emory at least 50 people (22%) make at least $130,000
W&M at least 41 people (20%) make at least $135,000
Wake Forest at least 31 people (18.5%) make at least $115,000
W&L at least 18 people (14.5%) make at least $105,000

For the local crowd:
Campbell at least 30 people (27%) make at least $50,000
North Carolina Central did not answer US News (employment rate 9 months out was under 90%).


When did the legal market take a nosedive? good stuff.


Beginning of 2009 was when the big layoffs started.

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Re: University of North Carolina 2013

Postby Center2450 » Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:43 am

LSATfromNC wrote:Thought I would share this. There may be more at each school that make more than this, but there is no less provided schools didn't lie to US News (which they probably did). This was for the 2007 class so it is considerably worse now, but the rank of who gets more high paying jobs should be the same.

Duke at least 87 people (38%) make at least $160,000
UVA at least 103 people (28%) make at least $145,000
Vanderbilt at least 60 people (26%) make at least $145,000
UNC at least 54 students (23%) make at least $115,000
Emory at least 50 people (22%) make at least $130,000
W&M at least 41 people (20%) make at least $135,000
Wake Forest at least 31 people (18.5%) make at least $115,000
W&L at least 18 people (14.5%) make at least $105,000

For the local crowd:
Campbell at least 30 people (27%) make at least $50,000
North Carolina Central did not answer US News (employment rate 9 months out was under 90%).



do we think the UNC stats are a little skewed (lower) bc of the strong push in "public service" type jobs, or no?

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Re: University of North Carolina 2013

Postby jbrowning82 » Tue Feb 16, 2010 1:43 am

Those stats are certainly a little skewed.

Duke and UVA grads get jobs in NYC and other higher cost of living places. $160k in NYC isn't going as far as $115k in Raleigh.

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Re: University of North Carolina 2013

Postby missvik218 » Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:32 pm

LSATfromNC wrote:Thought I would share this. There may be more at each school that make more than this, but there is no less provided schools didn't lie to US News (which they probably did). This was for the 2007 class so it is considerably worse now, but the rank of who gets more high paying jobs should be the same.

Duke at least 87 people (38%) make at least $160,000
UVA at least 103 people (28%) make at least $145,000
Vanderbilt at least 60 people (26%) make at least $145,000
UNC at least 54 students (23%) make at least $115,000
Emory at least 50 people (22%) make at least $130,000
W&M at least 41 people (20%) make at least $135,000
Wake Forest at least 31 people (18.5%) make at least $115,000
W&L at least 18 people (14.5%) make at least $105,000

For the local crowd:
Campbell at least 30 people (27%) make at least $50,000
North Carolina Central did not answer US News (employment rate 9 months out was under 90%).

What is it for UGA?

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Re: University of North Carolina 2013

Postby LSATfromNC » Tue Feb 16, 2010 3:34 pm

missvik218 wrote:
LSATfromNC wrote:Thought I would share this. There may be more at each school that make more than this, but there is no less provided schools didn't lie to US News (which they probably did). This was for the 2007 class so it is considerably worse now, but the rank of who gets more high paying jobs should be the same.

Duke at least 87 people (38%) make at least $160,000
UVA at least 103 people (28%) make at least $145,000
Vanderbilt at least 60 people (26%) make at least $145,000
UNC at least 54 students (23%) make at least $115,000
Emory at least 50 people (22%) make at least $130,000
W&M at least 41 people (20%) make at least $135,000
Wake Forest at least 31 people (18.5%) make at least $115,000
W&L at least 18 people (14.5%) make at least $105,000

For the local crowd:
Campbell at least 30 people (27%) make at least $50,000
North Carolina Central did not answer US News (employment rate 9 months out was under 90%).

What is it for UGA?


UGA at least 44 (19%) make at least $100,000

They had a fairly low percent (only 63%) that reported private secrtor salary, so it could be higher or it could be lower.

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Re: University of North Carolina 2013

Postby LSATfromNC » Tue Feb 16, 2010 3:43 pm

Center2450 wrote:
LSATfromNC wrote:Thought I would share this. There may be more at each school that make more than this, but there is no less provided schools didn't lie to US News (which they probably did). This was for the 2007 class so it is considerably worse now, but the rank of who gets more high paying jobs should be the same.

Duke at least 87 people (38%) make at least $160,000
UVA at least 103 people (28%) make at least $145,000
Vanderbilt at least 60 people (26%) make at least $145,000
UNC at least 54 students (23%) make at least $115,000
Emory at least 50 people (22%) make at least $130,000
W&M at least 41 people (20%) make at least $135,000
Wake Forest at least 31 people (18.5%) make at least $115,000
W&L at least 18 people (14.5%) make at least $105,000

For the local crowd:
Campbell at least 30 people (27%) make at least $50,000
North Carolina Central did not answer US News (employment rate 9 months out was under 90%).



do we think the UNC stats are a little skewed (lower) bc of the strong push in "public service" type jobs, or no?


I think the school pushes public service, but I don't think many follow. UNC only had 6% employed in public interest compared to UGA (only because I have UGA's stats open) which had 13% employed in public interest.

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Re: University of North Carolina 2013

Postby Center2450 » Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:47 pm

But does UGAs reputation compare at all to UNC nationally?

I grew up in the southeast, but have been in Texas for the last 4 years for undergrad so I'm a little out of touch.

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Re: University of North Carolina 2013

Postby jbrowning82 » Wed Feb 17, 2010 4:25 am

UNC has a much better national reputation, but neither of them place well outside of their states.

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Re: University of North Carolina 2013

Postby thestoryends » Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:03 pm

so what's the word on scholarship stuff? on the website it lists "chancellor's scholars weekend" in february... I wonder what kind of numbers will get merit scholly consideration this year.

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Re: University of North Carolina 2013

Postby gmichaelbluth » Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:09 pm

LSATfromNC wrote:
Center2450 wrote:
LSATfromNC wrote:Thought I would share this. There may be more at each school that make more than this, but there is no less provided schools didn't lie to US News (which they probably did). This was for the 2007 class so it is considerably worse now, but the rank of who gets more high paying jobs should be the same.

Duke at least 87 people (38%) make at least $160,000
UVA at least 103 people (28%) make at least $145,000
Vanderbilt at least 60 people (26%) make at least $145,000
UNC at least 54 students (23%) make at least $115,000
Emory at least 50 people (22%) make at least $130,000
W&M at least 41 people (20%) make at least $135,000
Wake Forest at least 31 people (18.5%) make at least $115,000
W&L at least 18 people (14.5%) make at least $105,000

For the local crowd:
Campbell at least 30 people (27%) make at least $50,000
North Carolina Central did not answer US News (employment rate 9 months out was under 90%).



do we think the UNC stats are a little skewed (lower) bc of the strong push in "public service" type jobs, or no?


I think the school pushes public service, but I don't think many follow. UNC only had 6% employed in public interest compared to UGA (only because I have UGA's stats open) which had 13% employed in public interest.


Not true: http://www.law.unc.edu/career/statistics/default.aspx

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Re: University of North Carolina 2013

Postby gangstaofluv21 » Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:20 pm

162/3.39, in-state ---3.75 GPA for the past 2.5 years. Top 10 undergrad school Do I have a good shot at getting in?

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Re: University of North Carolina 2013

Postby LSATfromNC » Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:25 pm

gmichaelbluth wrote:
LSATfromNC wrote:
I think the school pushes public service, but I don't think many follow. UNC only had 6% employed in public interest compared to UGA (only because I have UGA's stats open) which had 13% employed in public interest.


Not true: http://www.law.unc.edu/career/statistics/default.aspx


That combines public interest with government (which is in a way public interest, but yet two separate categories). Using that method they still lag behind UGA in public service.



UNC public interest 6% government 8%
UGA public interest 13% government 7%

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Re: University of North Carolina 2013

Postby tarheel87 » Wed Feb 17, 2010 9:30 pm

LSATfromNC wrote:
gmichaelbluth wrote:
LSATfromNC wrote:
I think the school pushes public service, but I don't think many follow. UNC only had 6% employed in public interest compared to UGA (only because I have UGA's stats open) which had 13% employed in public interest.


Not true: http://www.law.unc.edu/career/statistics/default.aspx


That combines public interest with government (which is in a way public interest, but yet two separate categories). Using that method they still lag behind UGA in public service.



UNC public interest 6% government 8%
UGA public interest 13% government 7%


There is significantly more government and public interest work in Atlanta than in NC, just saying. That being said UNC has pretty much become my unanimous first choice so I would really like to hear back soon...this wait is killing me.

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Re: University of North Carolina 2013

Postby missvik218 » Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:30 am

dailykosak wrote:
NatSec wrote:i don't know about deposits but certain schools like Indiana and UGA require you to notify them if you are accepting your scholarship offer by April 1

accepting a scholarship doesn't always (or even usually) lock you into the program. You can double check the agreement and call the admissions office if there is any ambiguity. I am still hoping to hear back before the other deposits are due though!

It's not just accept scholarships the wording is "To accept this scholarship you will need to commit to enroll in the University of Georgia School of Law by April 1, 2010." It's still worth looking into, but I think that sounds binding.

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Re: University of North Carolina 2013

Postby jbrowning82 » Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:48 am

Jeez Miss Vik you're in every topic I'm following.

Do we know if we're going to hear from UNC by April 1st, or no? I went there as an UG and I'd love to get back if they came through with a little money to match Notre Dame's offer.

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Re: University of North Carolina 2013

Postby dailykosak » Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:09 am

jbrowning82 wrote:Jeez Miss Vik you're in every topic I'm following.

Do we know if we're going to hear from UNC by April 1st, or no? I went there as an UG and I'd love to get back if they came through with a little money to match Notre Dame's offer.


My understanding is that the admissions office would like to have the majority of the acceptances sent by March 1. That said, the official word is any time between now and May. My guess is that if you qualify for a scholarship then you are going to be in the "clear admit" category, so you will hear sooner rather than later.

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Re: University of North Carolina 2013

Postby missvik218 » Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:13 am

jbrowning82 wrote:Jeez Miss Vik you're in every topic I'm following.

Do we know if we're going to hear from UNC by April 1st, or no? I went there as an UG and I'd love to get back if they came through with a little money to match Notre Dame's offer.

I really hope so, but I agree with the above poster ... if we haven't by 4/1 it doesn't seem likely that we'll be getting any scholly offers. Without which idt I'll be able to justify UNC over UGA, although I might prefer it.

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Re: University of North Carolina 2013

Postby dailykosak » Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:21 am

missvik218 wrote:
jbrowning82 wrote:Jeez Miss Vik you're in every topic I'm following.

Do we know if we're going to hear from UNC by April 1st, or no? I went there as an UG and I'd love to get back if they came through with a little money to match Notre Dame's offer.

I really hope so, but I agree with the above poster ... if we haven't by 4/1 it doesn't seem likely that we'll be getting any scholly offers. Without which idt I'll be able to justify UNC over UGA, although I might prefer it.


I feel your pain. I've got a full ride offer to a lower ranked school in NC and it is going to be a touch choice. The notion of having 0 debt is appealing given that I really want to work in the public sector in NC. I love living in this area though and suspect that UNC would be a good choice for me too (went here for undergrad). still hope to be able to attend UNC this fall.

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Re: University of North Carolina 2013

Postby jbrowning82 » Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:25 am

I think it'd be a little silly to take a full ride at any school in North Carolina over UNC, especially if you're trying to go public sector in NC. Anybody who's anybody in the NC govt went to UNC Law. It runs the state basically.

ESPECIALLY if you're getting IS tuition, but I dont know in your case.

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Re: University of North Carolina 2013

Postby dailykosak » Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:28 am

jbrowning82 wrote:I think it'd be a little silly to take a full ride at any school in North Carolina over UNC, especially if you're trying to go public sector in NC. Anybody who's anybody in the NC govt went to UNC Law. It runs the state basically.

ESPECIALLY if you're getting IS tuition, but I dont know in your case.


I hear ya. Like I said, I hope to get in and have a decision to make!

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Re: University of North Carolina 2013

Postby jbrowning82 » Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:32 am

Best of luck, Chapel Hill is my favorite town in the country. If I get in with no scholarship its going to be realllllllly hard to turn down another three years in blue heaven. Especially since the alternative is South Bend, Indiana (aka middle of nowhere)

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Re: University of North Carolina 2013

Postby dailykosak » Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:35 am

jbrowning82 wrote:Best of luck, Chapel Hill is my favorite town in the country. If I get in with no scholarship its going to be realllllllly hard to turn down another three years in blue heaven. Especially since the alternative is South Bend, Indiana (aka middle of nowhere)

good luck to you also and hope to see you this fall.....I'll be the old guy




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