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Re: Pithypike's Complete LSAT Study Guide

Postby Mr. Berns » Wed Aug 26, 2009 3:16 am

Not sure if this has been mentioned in the thread (it is quite a bit of internets real estate to cover), but what exactly should be the benefit of repeating LG sections? I like this specific exercise, but I just wanted to know how the experts think it actually ought to work. Clearly, it is not a matter of fully remembering a previous LG when you redo it. Should you: a) Vaguely recall how to set up the game and answer the questions, or b) Not really remember very much but develop a subconscious familiarity with all or most of the tricks LSAC has up its sleeve. Maybe the answer is actually something else, but I'm just really curious how other people have benefited from repeating LG sections.

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Re: Pithypike's Complete LSAT Study Guide

Postby jjleague » Wed Aug 26, 2009 3:56 pm

Does it matter which year version of the 10 actual books you buy? There seem to be several versions out there but if they all cover the same questions 7-38, then why spend the money on the new versions.

I am just now gearing up for the Feb 2010 LSAT.

Thanks in advance

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Postby nodummy » Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:27 pm

Hello...

Would you please provide a more detailed explanation of where all of these practice LG's are coming from. I have "10 Actual Tests," "10 More Actual Tests," and the "Next 10" tests in addition to tests 39-45, which were given to me randomly. If these practice LG's (which we sort into individual categories and copy three times, correct?) are coming from these "Real/Actual" tests, how do you know which kind of game you're dealing with in the practice test without actually starting to work the problem?

Thanks, any info would be great.

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Postby casper13 » Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:33 pm

nodummy wrote:Hello...

Would you please provide a more detailed explanation of where all of these practice LG's are coming from. I have "10 Actual Tests," "10 More Actual Tests," and the "Next 10" tests in addition to tests 39-45, which were given to me randomly. If these practice LG's (which we sort into individual categories and copy three times, correct?) are coming from these "Real/Actual" tests, how do you know which kind of game you're dealing with in the practice test without actually starting to work the problem?

Thanks, any info would be great.



they are from the first 3 PT books that you have, and the classifications system used is from powerscore in the back of the LGB.

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Re: Pithypike's Complete LSAT Study Guide

Postby pithypike » Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:52 pm

casper13 wrote:
nodummy wrote:Hello...

Would you please provide a more detailed explanation of where all of these practice LG's are coming from. I have "10 Actual Tests," "10 More Actual Tests," and the "Next 10" tests in addition to tests 39-45, which were given to me randomly. If these practice LG's (which we sort into individual categories and copy three times, correct?) are coming from these "Real/Actual" tests, how do you know which kind of game you're dealing with in the practice test without actually starting to work the problem?

Thanks, any info would be great.



they are from the first 3 PT books that you have, and the classifications system used is from powerscore in the back of the LGB.


If you have the older version of the LGB, newer classifications can be found on the PS website.

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Postby nodummy » Mon Aug 31, 2009 3:33 pm

Thanks

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Postby nodummy » Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:10 pm

A few questions here regarding Pithypike's study guide.

First off, Pithy lists the LG and LR sections out of order with respect to their appearance in the actual Bibles. For example, the Main Point section is chapter 5 but Pithy has it listed in month 2 behind other sections that come later. Is there a reason to study the material in a different order than how it's presented in the actual bible? Does it matter?

Also, I'm trying to decide an actual day study plan. Meaning, how many hours per day to devote to studying LG's vs. LR questions and material vs. RC stuff. I have roughly about three hours a day to devote to studying between now and Decmeber. Does anyone have an actual daily study regiment idea?

And one more thing. I never took an actual practice (placement) test to determine my "cold" LSAT score. I took a shorter test, untimed, that was provided by Kaplan and scored much differently than the actul LSAT with fewer questions. Would you recommend taking a practice test before proceding with more studying? Or should I just wait until the end of month one as Pithy suggests?

Thank you all very much for the help--I greatly appreciate your suggestions.

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Re: Pithypike's Complete LSAT Study Guide

Postby jitsrenzo » Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:20 pm

Pithypike,

I just want to thank you for this terrific guide. I canceled in October '08, but after using your guide and focusing intensely for a few months, I started practicing at 176-180 as soon as I was done with the review (months 1-2) and began to do full PTs. I scored in that practice range in June. Thank you so much.
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Re: Pithypike's Complete LSAT Study Guide

Postby nodummy » Tue Sep 08, 2009 2:18 pm

A few questions here regarding Pithypike's study guide.

First off, Pithy lists the LG and LR sections out of order with respect to their appearance in the actual Bibles. For example, the Main Point section is chapter 5 but Pithy has it listed in month 2 behind other sections that come later. Is there a reason to study the material in a different order than how it's presented in the actual bible? Does it matter?

Also, I'm trying to decide an actual day study plan. Meaning, how many hours per day to devote to studying LG's vs. LR questions and material vs. RC stuff. I have roughly about three hours a day to devote to studying between now and Decmeber. Does anyone have an actual daily study regiment idea?

And one more thing. I never took an actual practice (placement) test to determine my "cold" LSAT score. I took a shorter test, untimed, that was provided by Kaplan and scored much differently than the actul LSAT with fewer questions. Would you recommend taking a practice test before proceding with more studying? Or should I just wait until the end of month one as Pithy suggests?

Thank you all very much for the help--I greatly appreciate your suggestions.

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Re: Pithypike's Complete LSAT Study Guide

Postby Kulax22 » Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:19 pm

nodummy wrote: Would you recommend taking a practice test before proceding with more studying? Or should I just wait until the end of month one as Pithy suggests?


Do pikes sh** in rivers, or wherever they live?

Yeah you really should take a practice test asap. Why not? There are soooo many to do, you don't need to worry about wasting one.

You should determine how you'd REALLY do on the LSAT today. That means 5 sections and strictly timed. Right? :twisted:

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Re: Pithypike's Complete LSAT Study Guide

Postby basicgrey7 » Sun Sep 13, 2009 8:07 pm

How do you know which ones on amazon are the right ones? Everyone keeps saying the orange book, but the mastery i saw on ebay was blue.

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Re: Pithypike's Complete LSAT Study Guide

Postby jdsingar » Tue Sep 15, 2009 7:59 pm

Is http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B001O7JD3I/ref=dp_olp_used?ie=UTF8&qid=1253058902&sr=8-2&condition=used the right Kaplan Mastery book to use? It's certainly the cheapest available which makes me a bit skeptical.

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Re: Pithypike's Complete LSAT Study Guide

Postby Eric_Arthur_Blair » Sat Sep 26, 2009 5:50 pm

Does anyone know where I can find the type of games in each "Next 10" book without checking each game? I have the LR Bible from Powerscore, but as far as I can tell it doesn't have the types grouped and identified the same way it does for each PrepTest in the LG Bible.

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Re: Pithypike's Complete LSAT Study Guide

Postby lawschoollll » Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:05 am

where do you guys get all the PTs? i have the "10 more actual official;" are they all in these books?

also, some advice would be helpful: i just completed a powerscore class (just took the sept lsat but will be retaking since i completely bombed the 4th lg - don't know why, think i mis-diagrammed a rule), and in their "supplement" book there were a lot of full, standalone sections that i did. obviously, i will inevitably encounter these sections when i am doing more tests, and i am afraid it is either a) a waste of time or b) going to give me falsely high expectations... or both. anyone have this experience?

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Re: Pithypike's Complete LSAT Study Guide

Postby Eric_Arthur_Blair » Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:17 am

lawschoollll wrote:where do you guys get all the PTs? i have the "10 more actual official;" are they all in these books?

also, some advice would be helpful: i just completed a powerscore class (just took the sept lsat but will be retaking since i completely bombed the 4th lg - don't know why, think i mis-diagrammed a rule), and in their "supplement" book there were a lot of full, standalone sections that i did. obviously, i will inevitably encounter these sections when i am doing more tests, and i am afraid it is either a) a waste of time or b) going to give me falsely high expectations... or both. anyone have this experience?


You can get all the most recent PTs from the LSAC website shop section, they are $8 a piece.

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Re: Pithypike's Complete LSAT Study Guide

Postby lawschoollll » Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:22 am

Eric_Arthur_Blair wrote:
lawschoollll wrote:where do you guys get all the PTs? i have the "10 more actual official;" are they all in these books?

also, some advice would be helpful: i just completed a powerscore class (just took the sept lsat but will be retaking since i completely bombed the 4th lg - don't know why, think i mis-diagrammed a rule), and in their "supplement" book there were a lot of full, standalone sections that i did. obviously, i will inevitably encounter these sections when i am doing more tests, and i am afraid it is either a) a waste of time or b) going to give me falsely high expectations... or both. anyone have this experience?


You can get all the most recent PTs from the LSAC website shop section, they are $8 a piece.


oh awesome. guess that's pretty intuitive. thanks dude

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Re: Pithypike's Complete LSAT Study Guide

Postby jjleague » Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:56 pm

Check Amazon and Alibris for used PT's. That is where I got most of mine. They are about half the price. Also try to get the three 10 Actual series and the Kaplan Mastery.

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Re: Pithypike's Complete LSAT Study Guide

Postby Eric_Arthur_Blair » Fri Oct 09, 2009 2:23 pm

jjleague wrote:Check Amazon and Alibris for used PT's. That is where I got most of mine. They are about half the price. Also try to get the three 10 Actual series and the Kaplan Mastery.


I haven't decided if Kaplan Mastery is necessary yet. I am doing pretty well without it so far. Do you think it makes that big of a difference?

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Re: Pithypike's Complete LSAT Study Guide

Postby FreeGuy » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:50 pm

There are brand-new copies for around $20 here (in the 3rd listing). If it can help you refine your technique enough to get even one more question right on test day, why wouldn't you get it?

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Re: Pithypike's Complete LSAT Study Guide

Postby Eric_Arthur_Blair » Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:49 pm

FreeGuy wrote:There are brand-new copies for around $20 here (in the 3rd listing). If it can help you refine your technique enough to get even one more question right on test day, why wouldn't you get it?



Good point. I tend to think, though, that the refining technique can be learned without it. I honestly don't want to mix explanations or even have too many books to be deriving information from. But you could be right. I think I'll wait a few weeks and if my PT scores aren't where I want them to be I'll look into getting it.

Did you use it?

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Re: Pithypike's Complete LSAT Study Guide

Postby FreeGuy » Sat Oct 10, 2009 12:26 am

I didn't use it for the explanations AT ALL. I just found it helpful to have the questions already broken down by type and divided by difficulty for me.

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Re: Pithypike's Complete LSAT Study Guide

Postby Eric_Arthur_Blair » Sat Oct 10, 2009 9:07 am

FreeGuy wrote:I didn't use it for the explanations AT ALL. I just found it helpful to have the questions already broken down by type and divided by difficulty for me.



Nice. Are they all from real LSATs?

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Postby FreeGuy » Sat Oct 10, 2009 9:17 am

Yes

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Re: Pithypike's Complete LSAT Study Guide

Postby GMUPatriot86 » Mon Oct 19, 2009 2:04 pm

I just wanted to say thanks to Pithypike for this study guide. When I first took the LSAT last December I had only read some Kaplan and Princeton Review books and taken a few practice tests. Without the rigorous study and practice of this guide I scored slightly lower than my PT average and got a 158. After following the study guide all summer my practice scores went up considerably. I scored a 168 on my retake in September.

Hope this gives confidence to all who are wondering whether or not to follow this study guide when retaking.

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Re: Pithypike's Complete LSAT Study Guide

Postby nightinGail » Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:54 pm

Thanks Pithypike! I took the Kaplan prep course (before I found this helpful forum and realized it is despised) but at least I have all the Kaplan books now including the Mastery book. I'm gearing up for the December LSAT and while I don't have the full three months to do your version I have already been studying and from here on out I will take your advice :D I just wish I had found this sooner!!

Now off to buy the other books you recommend :lol:



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