Mikey wrote:olympia wrote:Mikey wrote:practicing untimed at first is kind of what you should do..
who cares what your real score is timed if you're just starting out? you need to learn and dissect the test when you first start, and untimed practice is the way to do it. blind review is to be done after you've already practiced a shit ton and are doing PT's, and then once you blind review after a PT you see where your weaknesses still are and you practice untimed for those specific weaknesses.
untimed drilling is definitely not a waste of time unless you're a god and are already practicing in the 170's right off the bat.. I would say most (I'd even go as far as saying all) of the people I know who got a 170+ all did untimed drilling. def not a waste.
e: and of course people should time themselves eventually, but the point of untimed practice is to see the patterns of the test so you can get faster at doing it when you actually do end up timing yourself.
This 100%. I was baffled by the user saying that untimed drilling is a waste. A statement like that screams of laziness and ignorance. Or someone who scored 175+ on their diagnostic. I’m leaning towards the former.
And, yes: I never understood the weight TLSers placed on a diagnostic score. I never took a diagnostic test because I knew I would do horribly: prior to studying for the test, I had no idea what conditional logic was nor was I familiar with doing logic games or reading for structure. A diagnostic score can only be useful and somewhat accurate if the test taker has experience with conditional logic and reading for structure.
yeah, diagnostics for most people are a waste of a PT and waste of time, imo. for some it is helpful though. I knew someone last year who scored a 164 on their diagnostic and had trouble mostly with LG. and guess what he did untimed drilling for LG haha he got a mid 170's score and ended up with a full tuition ride in the T13.
I know his exp is just an anecdote, along with everyone else I know, but I know.. A LOT of people who have taken this test, and not one of them didn't do drilling.. haha
for the most part though, for most people, a diagnostic literally just says "HEY YOU NEED TO STUDY" which you already freakin knew.
but idk, everyone is different I guess? there's def a select few who truly don't need to drill as hard and only take PTs and BR because they're already decent at the test right off the bat. and to those individuals, I kneel and give them my first born.
I have a friend whose mom had her doing logic games since she was a child... she only took one PT and scored in the high 170s. After, she did a little bit of RC drilling since that was her only weak area. She scored 179 on the actual test.