-11 Curve, September 2017 Waiter's Thread

Prepare for the LSAT or discuss it with others in this forum.

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Poll ended at Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:19 am

180-178
10
7%
177-175
15
11%
174-172
18
13%
171-169
21
15%
168-166
23
17%
165-160
27
20%
159-155
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9%
154-150
7
5%
<150
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Re: Dive-bombing for Judges, September 2017 Waiter's Thread

Postby wmbuff » Tue Sep 26, 2017 10:51 pm

OldSpeedoGuy wrote:Why are people not applying to the school(s) they selected in the poll?

I'm not applying to Stanford because I don't want to go across the country.


Super-splitter, if my score is within the range of my PTs.
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Postby 181plz » Tue Sep 26, 2017 11:00 pm

OldSpeedoGuy wrote:Why are people not applying to the school(s) they selected in the poll?

I'm not applying to Stanford because I don't want to go across the country.


I chose Yale and Stanford cuz I have a juicy 3.4
I might cross my fingers and send an app to Harvard if I passed their 75% LSAT

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Postby Kiskeya » Tue Sep 26, 2017 11:26 pm

OldSpeedoGuy wrote:Why are people not applying to the school(s) they selected in the poll?

I'm not applying to Stanford because I don't want to go across the country.


Not applying to Stanford for the same reason. Yale bc of GPA :roll: . & no schools south of D.C for me, don't want to have to worry about my life being in danger once I'm off campus (in some places, even on campus) & I've never had a desire to live or work in that region anyway.

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Postby OldSpeedoGuy » Tue Sep 26, 2017 11:41 pm

181plz wrote:
OldSpeedoGuy wrote:Why are people not applying to the school(s) they selected in the poll?

I'm not applying to Stanford because I don't want to go across the country.


I chose Yale and Stanford cuz I have a juicy 3.4
I might cross my fingers and send an app to Harvard if I passed their 75% LSAT


Pretty much where I'm at. Wondering why people aren't applying to Chicago though. Maybe because it's south side?

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Postby creed » Tue Sep 26, 2017 11:48 pm

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creed wrote:when u spend all day doing politics and then tls is also doing politics.

and of all things, having an argument over whether bernie sanders, obviously not a communist, is a communist

here's a good way to see whether or not bernie sanders is a communist

look at literally any-- any-- of his 2016 proposals. not only are they not communist proposals, they're barely democratic socialist proposals. if you think he's a communist, you either don't understand his views, don't understand communism, or aren't operating in good faith. next!


Like I said, he toned it down when he ran as a Democrat.

Trump gets dragged (and rightly so) for pandering to white nationalists and Nazis, but Bernie spends his life carrying water for an ideology responsible for 100 million dead in the 20th century and people feel the need to run interference for him.


this take is so bad that I don’t even think I can respond to it

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Postby april_ludgate » Tue Sep 26, 2017 11:53 pm

OldSpeedoGuy wrote:
181plz wrote:
OldSpeedoGuy wrote:Why are people not applying to the school(s) they selected in the poll?

I'm not applying to Stanford because I don't want to go across the country.


I chose Yale and Stanford cuz I have a juicy 3.4
I might cross my fingers and send an app to Harvard if I passed their 75% LSAT


Pretty much where I'm at. Wondering why people aren't applying to Chicago though. Maybe because it's south side?


I'm considering not applying there because my mother went there and haaaated it and constantly tells me not to apply. But, you know, it's been like 30 years. Plus my mother and I are pretty different. I'm probably going to apply anyway.

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Re: Dive-bombing for Judges, September 2017 Waiter's Thread

Postby icechicken » Tue Sep 26, 2017 11:55 pm

OldSpeedoGuy wrote:
181plz wrote:
OldSpeedoGuy wrote:Why are people not applying to the school(s) they selected in the poll?

I'm not applying to Stanford because I don't want to go across the country.


I chose Yale and Stanford cuz I have a juicy 3.4
I might cross my fingers and send an app to Harvard if I passed their 75% LSAT


Pretty much where I'm at. Wondering why people aren't applying to Chicago though. Maybe because it's south side?


Most people who are disqualified from YS because of their GPA are probably going to have a hard time getting into Chicago as well. A splitter with a 3.5-6 probably has a much better chance at Harvard.

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Postby Cmoney $$ » Wed Sep 27, 2017 2:31 am

OldSpeedoGuy wrote:Why are people not applying to the school(s) they selected in the poll?

I'm not applying to Stanford because I don't want to go across the country.


I intended to apply to HLS until this whole Chelsea Manning thing. I know it may sound silly to some not to apply for this reason, but I'm a 10 year Army Vet leaving active duty for law school, so it felt like a kick in the nuts. I understand it was the business school that decided to honor a traitor, but I feel like it's representative of the entire institution.

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Postby AvatarMeelo » Wed Sep 27, 2017 8:04 am

ugatvandy wrote:
GnarMarBinx wrote:For the people who drilled LR by question types (and didn't pay for 7sage) how did you do it? I want to drill parallel reasoning questions and flaw questions but not sure exactly how to do it in an efficient manner. The only way I can think to do it right now is to search through tests and print off pages with 3 or so other question types on it and ignore the others -- which would waste a lot of time and ink.

Is there a way to line up questions of certain types to print off without having a paid for 7sage account (or even line up question types in an un-printable manner)? If you didn't have a 7sage account, how did you drill LR question types?

Thanks for any answer you can give!


idk if its exactly what you're looking for, but Nathan Fox has a book that has over 500 logical reasoning questions in it, divided by question type and listed in order of difficulty. He also goes into detail about how to predict the answer and why each answer choice is right/wrong. Plus, he's the sassiest motherfucker alive and it will literally make studying logical reasoning enjoyable.

Hope this helps some!


Why have I never seen this book before?!?? But ouch $70 is tough to pay. Since it worked before - if anyone has this book with little writing and can beat the amazon price, PM me :)

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Postby twiix » Wed Sep 27, 2017 8:47 am

clueless801 wrote:
ugatvandy wrote:
GnarMarBinx wrote:For the people who drilled LR by question types (and didn't pay for 7sage) how did you do it? I want to drill parallel reasoning questions and flaw questions but not sure exactly how to do it in an efficient manner. The only way I can think to do it right now is to search through tests and print off pages with 3 or so other question types on it and ignore the others -- which would waste a lot of time and ink.

Is there a way to line up questions of certain types to print off without having a paid for 7sage account (or even line up question types in an un-printable manner)? If you didn't have a 7sage account, how did you drill LR question types?

Thanks for any answer you can give!


idk if its exactly what you're looking for, but Nathan Fox has a book that has over 500 logical reasoning questions in it, divided by question type and listed in order of difficulty. He also goes into detail about how to predict the answer and why each answer choice is right/wrong. Plus, he's the sassiest motherfucker alive and it will literally make studying logical reasoning enjoyable.

Hope this helps some!


Why have I never seen this book before?!?? But ouch $70 is tough to pay. Since it worked before - if anyone has this book with little writing and can beat the amazon price, PM me :)


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Re: Dive-bombing for Judges, September 2017 Waiter's Thread

Postby Walliums » Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:20 am

OldSpeedoGuy wrote:Why are people not applying to the school(s) they selected in the poll?

I'm not applying to Stanford because I don't want to go across the country.


I'm really curious as to why more people picked Chicago over Harvard to not apply to?

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Postby icechicken » Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:10 am

Walliums wrote:
OldSpeedoGuy wrote:Why are people not applying to the school(s) they selected in the poll?

I'm not applying to Stanford because I don't want to go across the country.


I'm really curious as to why more people picked Chicago over Harvard to not apply to?


As I noted above: "Most people who are disqualified from YS because of their GPA are probably going to have a hard time getting into Chicago as well. A splitter with a 3.5-6 probably has a much better chance at Harvard."

Two more reasons:

- Cambridge is a more appealing location than Hyde Park for most people
- People who are just throwing in random moonshot reach schools are probably more likely to pick Harvard/Yale/Stanford/Columbia than Chicago/NYU because of lay prestige.

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Postby merdblah » Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:40 am

OldSpeedoGuy wrote:Why are people not applying to the school(s) they selected in the poll?

I'm not applying to Stanford because I don't want to go across the country.


Not applying to Harvard/Penn/Columbia/NYU/Chicago because I don't want to live in a large city while in law school. I'm debating Standford as a large city school, but probably won't apply simply because I'm debt averse and they don't give merit based scholarships (which is a good reason for also avoiding the major city schools/Yale). I'll apply to Yale just to see because why not.

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Postby icechicken » Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:00 am

merdblah wrote:Not applying to Harvard/Penn/Columbia/NYU/Chicago because I don't want to live in a large city while in law school. I'm debating Standford as a large city school, but probably won't apply simply because I'm debt averse and they don't give merit based scholarships (which is a good reason for also avoiding the major city schools/Yale). I'll apply to Yale just to see because why not.


What are your reasons for wanting to avoid a large city? If you just don't want to be surrounded by skyscrapers or busy streets, Harvard and Chicago's campuses might be be fine for you, and Stanford definitely wouldn't be a problem. You can see the city skyline from UChicago's campus but the actual neighborhood it's in isn't much more built-up than, say, Ithaca.

If it's more of a cost thing, I likewise don't think you should automatically rule Penn or Chicago out. If it's cultural, then, yeah, all of the above are probably out and you want to go to Michican or Virginia.

Not saying your opinions are wrong, of course, but I'm curious about your reasoning.

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Postby sabraph » Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:04 am

OldSpeedoGuy wrote:Why are people not applying to the school(s) they selected in the poll?

I'm not applying to Stanford because I don't want to go across the country.



No HYS because I can't afford to burn an app fee if I got in I would have to pay sticker and I think I could do equally well/better at a lower T-14 school. No Columbia/NYU because I really do not want to live in NY.

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Postby chewinggum » Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:27 am

Is there anyone on here who works out a lot/has a routine?

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Postby Walliums » Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:28 am

I'm curious to know for people who have a top choice or dream school, what is it about that school that stands out for you? Location? Particular classes?

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Postby ilpsm » Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:29 am

On the fence about Yale because I don't really think I could see myself there for three years. No Cornell (and perhaps no Columbia) b/c I'd much prefer NYU if I'm in New York since I'm very interested in tax. I also currently live in NYC and I'd much prefer to live downtown than uptown. No Penn b/c I hate Philly and probably won't apply to Michigan though I'm still on the fence about that.
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Postby merdblah » Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:56 am

icechicken wrote:
merdblah wrote:Not applying to Harvard/Penn/Columbia/NYU/Chicago because I don't want to live in a large city while in law school. I'm debating Standford as a large city school, but probably won't apply simply because I'm debt averse and they don't give merit based scholarships (which is a good reason for also avoiding the major city schools/Yale). I'll apply to Yale just to see because why not.


What are your reasons for wanting to avoid a large city? If you just don't want to be surrounded by skyscrapers or busy streets, Harvard and Chicago's campuses might be be fine for you, and Stanford definitely wouldn't be a problem. You can see the city skyline from UChicago's campus but the actual neighborhood it's in isn't much more built-up than, say, Ithaca.

If it's more of a cost thing, I likewise don't think you should automatically rule Penn or Chicago out. If it's cultural, then, yeah, all of the above are probably out and you want to go to Michigan or Virginia.

Not saying your opinions are wrong, of course, but I'm curious about your reasoning.


You hit most of my biggest issues:
1. Cost of living
2. Hectic environment (I lived in NYC for two years and have had my fill, I'm getting old and just want some quiet damn it! :p )
3. Culture (A big reason why Standford is still iffy for example, I hate silicon valley. I'm a computer programmer but don't associate well with their culture at all. Also in general hate "big city living" which is contagious even in proximity to large cities in my experience)
4/1b. General Interest (based on initial research my interest in the programs isn't what I'd call high, at least not enough to override my desire to not live in a large city)

Michigan and Virginia are actually two of my top choices (along with WashU and UT Austin, which get special treatment due to other factors)

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Postby jjdude14 » Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:05 pm

had my first LSAT score dream last night. Ended up with a 173, please pray that it was one of those dreams that predicts the future.

Also getting my personal statement reviewed again today, hopefully the last time before it's ready to get sent out!

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Postby merdblah » Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:05 pm

chewinggum wrote:Is there anyone on here who works out a lot/has a routine?


I was training to run a half marathon in November and a half+full in January at 7:30-8 min/mile. "Was" because I broke my toe six-ish weeks ago and have been limited. I try to stationary bike every other day for about 15+ miles though to keep up and hopefully get back to it here shortly.

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Postby jjdude14 » Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:08 pm

OldSpeedoGuy wrote:Why are people not applying to the school(s) they selected in the poll?


I have like no softs so YS aren't worth my app $$, not interested in going south so Duke/UVA aren't appealing to me. Still iffy about NYU/Columbia because NYC COL scares this Iowa boy.

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Postby chewinggum » Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:27 pm

merdblah wrote:
chewinggum wrote:Is there anyone on here who works out a lot/has a routine?


I was training to run a half marathon in November and a half+full in January at 7:30-8 min/mile. "Was" because I broke my toe six-ish weeks ago and have been limited. I try to stationary bike every other day for about 15+ miles though to keep up and hopefully get back to it here shortly.

I run every morning and do Pilates twice a week but I want to get more into weights but it's difficult to find a good routine online.

And sheesh. Cycling is tough! I took a class once and never returned haha

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Postby merdblah » Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:44 pm

chewinggum wrote:
merdblah wrote:
chewinggum wrote:Is there anyone on here who works out a lot/has a routine?


I was training to run a half marathon in November and a half+full in January at 7:30-8 min/mile. "Was" because I broke my toe six-ish weeks ago and have been limited. I try to stationary bike every other day for about 15+ miles though to keep up and hopefully get back to it here shortly.

I run every morning and do Pilates twice a week but I want to get more into weights but it's difficult to find a good routine online.

And sheesh. Cycling is tough! I took a class once and never returned haha


Yeah, it was definitely a different set of muscles I was not used to using. Thankfully that eventually stopped being a huge issue after a few weeks. I'm not looking forward to those first few runs back for the same reason...maybe I'll just sign up for a bike race instead :p

But yeah, can't help you on the strength training. I ran into similar issues and eventually decided I was fine with just running.

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Re: Dive-bombing for Judges, September 2017 Waiter's Thread

Postby ugatvandy » Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:51 pm

clueless801 wrote:
ugatvandy wrote:
GnarMarBinx wrote:For the people who drilled LR by question types (and didn't pay for 7sage) how did you do it? I want to drill parallel reasoning questions and flaw questions but not sure exactly how to do it in an efficient manner. The only way I can think to do it right now is to search through tests and print off pages with 3 or so other question types on it and ignore the others -- which would waste a lot of time and ink.

Is there a way to line up questions of certain types to print off without having a paid for 7sage account (or even line up question types in an un-printable manner)? If you didn't have a 7sage account, how did you drill LR question types?

Thanks for any answer you can give!


idk if its exactly what you're looking for, but Nathan Fox has a book that has over 500 logical reasoning questions in it, divided by question type and listed in order of difficulty. He also goes into detail about how to predict the answer and why each answer choice is right/wrong. Plus, he's the sassiest motherfucker alive and it will literally make studying logical reasoning enjoyable.

Hope this helps some!


Why have I never seen this book before?!?? But ouch $70 is tough to pay. Since it worked before - if anyone has this book with little writing and can beat the amazon price, PM me :)


Nathan Fox also had a really enjoyable podcast about the LSAT (The Thinking LSAT Podcast). And the book costs so much because the questions are real LSAT questions, and lsat charges like 5 cents per question if you use it in a publication or whatever, and then they have to be able to pay for the cost of paper and production as well as make a profit. It's actually pretty reasonable in my opinion.



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