-11 Curve, September 2017 Waiter's Thread

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Poll ended at Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:19 am

180-178
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177-175
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174-172
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171-169
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168-166
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165-160
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159-155
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154-150
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Re: Dive-bombing for Judges, September 2017 Waiter's Thread

Postby King of the North » Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:30 am

chewinggum wrote:
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King of the North wrote:
chewinggum wrote:Does anyone have experience writing their own LOR?


Do people actually do this? Asking out of pure curiosity and not sarcasm lol.


It's more common than you think, mostly because people asked to write the recommendation just say "you write it an I'll sign it."

It's a double-edge sword though, because from what I've read, admissions can tell a lot of the time when the letter was written by an applicant.

This and if the writing style is too similar to your other submissions. So this is going to take some time


Yeah, I'm an idiot. Idk why I thought you meant you were recommending yourself *facepalm*. I know people write them and have the individual sign it. Happy Monday lol.

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Re: Dive-bombing for Judges, September 2017 Waiter's Thread

Postby wmbuff » Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:30 am

Mikey wrote:just did a 2nd draft of my PS. have any of you done your Why X essays yet?


Yeah, several of them. Some are better than others.
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Re: Dive-bombing for Judges, September 2017 Waiter's Thread

Postby Jack_Kelly » Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:31 am

Mikey wrote:just did a 2nd draft of my PS. have any of you done your Why X essays yet?

Some yeah, have written Duke, UVA, Michigan. Still planning on doing Berkeley and GULC.

interviewing but no Why X at WUSTL, Vanderbilt, and I guess NU

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Re: Dive-bombing for Judges, September 2017 Waiter's Thread

Postby Mikey » Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:40 am

wmbuff wrote:
Mikey wrote:just did a 2nd draft of my PS. have any of you done your Why X essays yet?


Yeah, several of them. Some are better than others.


Jack_Kelly wrote:
Mikey wrote:just did a 2nd draft of my PS. have any of you done your Why X essays yet?

Some yeah, have written Duke, UVA, Michigan. Still planning on doing Berkeley and GULC.

interviewing but no Why X at WUSTL, Vanderbilt, and I guess NU

I'm totally slacking on mine. I did one for NYU but still need to review it, and that is pretty much it lol.

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Re: Dive-bombing for Judges, September 2017 Waiter's Thread

Postby wmbuff » Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:41 am

Jack_Kelly wrote:
Mikey wrote:just did a 2nd draft of my PS. have any of you done your Why X essays yet?

Some yeah, have written Duke, UVA, Michigan. Still planning on doing Berkeley and GULC.

interviewing but no Why X at WUSTL, Vanderbilt, and I guess NU


Why, that looks remarkably similar to my list, I just won't be submitting an app to Cal, and wanted to make sure Vandy doesn't have any excuse to YP me.
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Re: Dive-bombing for Judges, September 2017 Waiter's Thread

Postby Jack_Kelly » Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:42 am

I thought the consensus was CCN didn't like "Why X" essays?
(Though if I get NYU, it'd probably be at sticker, so probably not worth it for me anyway)

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Re: Dive-bombing for Judges, September 2017 Waiter's Thread

Postby wmbuff » Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:46 am

Jack_Kelly wrote:I thought the consensus was CCN didn't like "Why X" essays?
(Though if I get NYU, it'd probably be at sticker, so probably not worth it for me anyway)


More that they don't need to be told why - they already know.
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Re: Dive-bombing for Judges, September 2017 Waiter's Thread

Postby twiix » Mon Oct 09, 2017 12:13 pm

I have bullet points for most of my Why X's - just need to convert them into a real essay. Duke was waaaay more interesting than I previously thought after I did some digging. All of my essays are going to be genuine, which is helpful.

Also, I think this thread is more dead than others because we all fear how bad we did and lack the optimism of receiving good scores because of the RC. Just my $.02 though.

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Re: Dive-bombing for Judges, September 2017 Waiter's Thread

Postby Ntp73821 » Mon Oct 09, 2017 12:21 pm

twiix wrote:I have bullet points for most of my Why X's - just need to convert them into a real essay. Duke was waaaay more interesting than I previously thought after I did some digging. All of my essays are going to be genuine, which is helpful.

Also, I think this thread is more dead than others because we all fear how bad we did and lack the optimism of receiving good scores because of the RC. Just my $.02 though.


I agree. I was super active in the June waiters thread but it was a lot harder to post here knowing I blew the test haha
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Re: Dive-bombing for Judges, September 2017 Waiter's Thread

Postby littlewing67 » Mon Oct 09, 2017 12:23 pm

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Re: Dive-bombing for Judges, September 2017 Waiter's Thread

Postby OldSpeedoGuy » Mon Oct 09, 2017 12:25 pm

hamshotfirst wrote:
sabraph wrote:
creed wrote:i'm at work as well

is everyone just ignoring the holiday


I have school today. I think its part of the push towards realizing Columbus was kind of a douchecanoe.



In 1492 Columbus got us a day off schooo


I appreciate this reference

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Re: Dive-bombing for Judges, September 2017 Waiter's Thread

Postby CottonHarvest » Mon Oct 09, 2017 1:03 pm

I don't even know what to write in my Why X essays. How long are yours?

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Re: Dive-bombing for Judges, September 2017 Waiter's Thread

Postby kgm1990 » Mon Oct 09, 2017 1:09 pm

CottonHarvest wrote:I don't even know what to write in my Why X essays. How long are yours?


Mine had word count limits. However, I think it's important to just focus on your honest reasons instead of length.

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Re: Dive-bombing for Judges, September 2017 Waiter's Thread

Postby Ntp73821 » Mon Oct 09, 2017 1:20 pm

CottonHarvest wrote:I don't even know what to write in my Why X essays. How long are yours?


3/4 of a page - 1 whole page generally seems to be a good length. Make sure you do your research before writing them and figure out what you want to write about so that you come across as sincere.
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Re: Dive-bombing for Judges, September 2017 Waiter's Thread

Postby jjdude14 » Mon Oct 09, 2017 2:13 pm

I got into a twitter fight about cultural appropriation last night and as soon as I put my phone down and opened my computer, it decided to remind me that Columbus Day is tomorrow [today].

Trying to stay woke comes with a price.

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Re: Dive-bombing for Judges, September 2017 Waiter's Thread

Postby littlelibertine » Mon Oct 09, 2017 3:39 pm

Ntp73821 wrote:
CottonHarvest wrote:I don't even know what to write in my Why X essays. How long are yours?


3/4 of a page - 1 whole page generally seems to be a good length. Make sure you do your research before writing them and figure out what you want to write about so that you come across as sincere.


Same. Mine are clocking in at about just under a page. I've got a fairly long paragraph I wrote about why I'm interested in a specific area of law that I'm using for every school, and then the second/third paragraphs are about why that particular school would support my interest in that particular area.

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Re: Dive-bombing for Judges, September 2017 Waiter's Thread

Postby Mikey » Mon Oct 09, 2017 3:42 pm

I think all of mine are going to be about a page or under

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Re: Dive-bombing for Judges, September 2017 Waiter's Thread

Postby littlelibertine » Mon Oct 09, 2017 3:45 pm

Anyone willing to trade a Why X paper?

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Re: Dive-bombing for Judges, September 2017 Waiter's Thread

Postby wmbuff » Mon Oct 09, 2017 3:51 pm

Mikey wrote:I think all of mine are going to be about a page or under


I wasn't able to keep Duke that short, since they wanted a Why Law in there as well, which spread it out another third of a page.
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Re: Dive-bombing for Judges, September 2017 Waiter's Thread

Postby littlelibertine » Mon Oct 09, 2017 4:05 pm

wmbuff wrote:
Mikey wrote:I think all of mine are going to be about a page or under


I wasn't able to keep Duke that short, since they wanted a Why Law in there as well, which spread it out another third of a page.


Care to trade? My Why Duke is still only a page, and I did talk about Why Law.

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Re: Dive-bombing for Judges, September 2017 Waiter's Thread

Postby wmbuff » Mon Oct 09, 2017 4:07 pm

littlelibertine wrote:
wmbuff wrote:
Mikey wrote:I think all of mine are going to be about a page or under


I wasn't able to keep Duke that short, since they wanted a Why Law in there as well, which spread it out another third of a page.


Care to trade? My Why Duke is still only a page, and I did talk about Why Law.


Sure, but I'll have to send it after work. I'd be just fine at page limits if we didn't have to double-space everything.
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Re: Dive-bombing for Judges, September 2017 Waiter's Thread

Postby Ntp73821 » Mon Oct 09, 2017 4:13 pm

wmbuff wrote:
I wasn't able to keep Duke that short, since they wanted a Why Law in there as well, which spread it out another third of a page.


I didn't really talk about Why Law in my Why Duke because my personal statement explains Why Law so it felt redundant. Probably why I was able to keep it at a page.
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Re: Dive-bombing for Judges, September 2017 Waiter's Thread

Postby wmbuff » Mon Oct 09, 2017 4:15 pm

Ntp73821 wrote:
wmbuff wrote:
I wasn't able to keep Duke that short, since they wanted a Why Law in there as well, which spread it out another third of a page.


I didn't really talk about Why Law in my Why Duke because my personal statement explains Why Law so it felt redundant. Probably why I was able to keep it at a page.


Yeah, I needed a solid paragraph for Why Law, since I'd really only referenced it briefly in the PS, and felt it deserved a thorough explanation when they wanted it specifically.
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Re: Dive-bombing for Judges, September 2017 Waiter's Thread

Postby twiix » Mon Oct 09, 2017 4:16 pm

littlelibertine wrote:
wmbuff wrote:
Mikey wrote:I think all of mine are going to be about a page or under


I wasn't able to keep Duke that short, since they wanted a Why Law in there as well, which spread it out another third of a page.


Care to trade? My Why Duke is still only a page, and I did talk about Why Law.


I'd be willing to trade as well. Mine should be finished today or tomorrow morning though, so I'll reach out to you then.

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Re: Dive-bombing for Judges, September 2017 Waiter's Thread

Postby littlelibertine » Mon Oct 09, 2017 4:18 pm

twiix wrote:
littlelibertine wrote:
wmbuff wrote:
Mikey wrote:I think all of mine are going to be about a page or under


I wasn't able to keep Duke that short, since they wanted a Why Law in there as well, which spread it out another third of a page.


Care to trade? My Why Duke is still only a page, and I did talk about Why Law.


I'd be willing to trade as well. Mine should be finished today or tomorrow morning though, so I'll reach out to you then.


Sounds great. :) PM me for my email address.



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