High Scorers: How much time do you spend reviewing?

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High Scorers: How much time do you spend reviewing?

Postby Cheyenne » Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:22 pm

Looking for people who score in the 170s. How long do you all spend reviewing your PTs? I currently spend about 4hrs going over each of my LR sections (8hrs total). This includes me doing a blind review of the answers I got wrong, wasn't completely sure about, skipped, or took a long time to solve. I then write out why each answer choice is wrong. For answers I still get wrong after blind reviewing, I seek out explanations online if I don't understand why and then write my own version of an explanation as if I was going to teach that problem to someone. Wondering if the number of hours I spend reviewing is too much time or really abnormal?

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Re: High Scorers: How much time do you spend reviewing?

Postby Anon-e-miss » Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:31 pm

I spend one or two hours reviewing my PTs. I don't do traditional BR. I only review the questions that I circled as being unsure of or questions that I didn't circle but answered incorrectly. Usually this takes 60-90 minutes. I'm sure that most people spend more time reviewing than I do, but I think it comes down to finding a system that works for you. If your system of intense reviewing is yielding promising results, than you should keep it. If not, you can surely change things up because I think that spending that time on PT review would actually dull my brain to the questions since it sounds extremely rote.

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Re: High Scorers: How much time do you spend reviewing?

Postby Platopus » Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:46 pm

I didn't BR either, but I did review each PT in full, so it took about 3 1/2 hours on average. I would go over every question again, spending extra time on the questions I missed. I was more relaxed with LG, so I would only review a game if I missed a question on it. Otherwise I went through the entire test again, paying attention not only to each question as an individual component, but also to the section as a whole. It really helped, as I was able to spot if a question I got right ended up being a total time sink that I was simply overthinking, as well as any other overarching themes. In general, I think review is where the improvement is really made. I took a total of about ~20 tests timed and hit my PT average dead on for the real thing.

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Re: High Scorers: How much time do you spend reviewing?

Postby crumb cake » Sun Jul 23, 2017 1:38 am

Your approach sounds good. I also would retake sections or bundles of questions (or whole tests) a few weeks later to walk through the steps required to get the right answer.

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Re: High Scorers: How much time do you spend reviewing?

Postby conker » Mon Jul 24, 2017 1:31 pm

Cheyenne wrote:Looking for people who score in the 170s. How long do you all spend reviewing your PTs? I currently spend about 4hrs going over each of my LR sections (8hrs total). This includes me doing a blind review of the answers I got wrong, wasn't completely sure about, skipped, or took a long time to solve. I then write out why each answer choice is wrong. For answers I still get wrong after blind reviewing, I seek out explanations online if I don't understand why and then write my own version of an explanation as if I was going to teach that problem to someone. Wondering if the number of hours I spend reviewing is too much time or really abnormal?


I have a more thorough method and it takes less time. A timed 4-section test takes me 2.5 hours. I immediately print off a new copy of the same test and put the timed one away to start working on a non-timed version, which takes forever (about 4.5 hours). Then I grade both tests and compare answers, thoroughly analyze anything I missed on the untimed version, and organize everything so I can come back to it regularly. This takes another hour. So I'm looking at 5.5 hours of review.

I don't think the time you take for review is as important as feeling confident your method of review is as good as you can possibly make it. Some people even mention recording yourself taking the timed test so you can watch it and review how much time you spent on each answer and analyze that data. I have yet to do that.

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Re: High Scorers: How much time do you spend reviewing?

Postby MercW07 » Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:52 pm

conker wrote:
Cheyenne wrote:Looking for people who score in the 170s. How long do you all spend reviewing your PTs? I currently spend about 4hrs going over each of my LR sections (8hrs total). This includes me doing a blind review of the answers I got wrong, wasn't completely sure about, skipped, or took a long time to solve. I then write out why each answer choice is wrong. For answers I still get wrong after blind reviewing, I seek out explanations online if I don't understand why and then write my own version of an explanation as if I was going to teach that problem to someone. Wondering if the number of hours I spend reviewing is too much time or really abnormal?


I have a more thorough method and it takes less time. A timed 4-section test takes me 2.5 hours. I immediately print off a new copy of the same test and put the timed one away to start working on a non-timed version, which takes forever (about 4.5 hours). Then I grade both tests and compare answers, thoroughly analyze anything I missed on the untimed version, and organize everything so I can come back to it regularly. This takes another hour. So I'm looking at 5.5 hours of review.

I don't think the time you take for review is as important as feeling confident your method of review is as good as you can possibly make it. Some people even mention recording yourself taking the timed test so you can watch it and review how much time you spent on each answer and analyze that data. I have yet to do that.


Ive never heard of anyone doing this, but I really like the idea of it. What have been the results?

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Re: High Scorers: How much time do you spend reviewing?

Postby MrAdultman » Thu Jul 27, 2017 5:08 pm

Apparently I'm the anomaly here - I spent very little time reviewing my tests. After taking a PT and scoring it, I'd spend 10 minutes looking at what I got wrong and why, and then move on. Maybe I'm alone in this, but I was (almost) never confused about why I missed a question. After 80 timed LR questions, it wasn't shocking that I rushed one or two or made a stupid inference mistake. Once you're consistently scoring in the 170's, you know how to answer all the questions. Maybe reviewing will help you to diagnose what tricked you or caused your lapse in judgment, but I didn't find it helpful. Rather, I would just continue grinding away at practice (Cambridge LG/LR practice books) to habituate getting the questions right under testing conditions (i.e. timed), which was successful for me.

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Re: High Scorers: How much time do you spend reviewing?

Postby conker » Fri Jul 28, 2017 3:34 pm

MercW07 wrote:
conker wrote:
Cheyenne wrote:Looking for people who score in the 170s. How long do you all spend reviewing your PTs? I currently spend about 4hrs going over each of my LR sections (8hrs total). This includes me doing a blind review of the answers I got wrong, wasn't completely sure about, skipped, or took a long time to solve. I then write out why each answer choice is wrong. For answers I still get wrong after blind reviewing, I seek out explanations online if I don't understand why and then write my own version of an explanation as if I was going to teach that problem to someone. Wondering if the number of hours I spend reviewing is too much time or really abnormal?


I have a more thorough method and it takes less time. A timed 4-section test takes me 2.5 hours. I immediately print off a new copy of the same test and put the timed one away to start working on a non-timed version, which takes forever (about 4.5 hours). Then I grade both tests and compare answers, thoroughly analyze anything I missed on the untimed version, and organize everything so I can come back to it regularly. This takes another hour. So I'm looking at 5.5 hours of review.

I don't think the time you take for review is as important as feeling confident your method of review is as good as you can possibly make it. Some people even mention recording yourself taking the timed test so you can watch it and review how much time you spent on each answer and analyze that data. I have yet to do that.


Ive never heard of anyone doing this, but I really like the idea of it. What have been the results?


It's hard to say what causes what, but there has been a correlation of higher scores. I also cannot think of a better theoretical way to learn.
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Re: High Scorers: How much time do you spend reviewing?

Postby AJordan » Fri Jul 28, 2017 3:38 pm

Somewhere around 2-5 minutes per LR question missed, 10ish minutes per RC passage struggle and 10ish minutes for a boggled game. Started off taking me about an hour and a half to review an entire test but eventually it was thirty minutes or so. I would also go back to the most difficult questions I got right and make sure I got them right for the right reasons. Around month 3 or 4 I started going back and reviewing all the questions I got wrong and seeing if I could get them right. I was going probably 60/40 on them at that point and felt pretty comfortable breaking 170 consistently.




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