The Official December 2017 Study Group

Prepare for the LSAT or discuss it with others in this forum.

We all want a 180. What's the lowest score you'll take?

Sub 160
4
4%
160-163
12
11%
164-167
26
23%
167-169
18
16%
170
13
11%
171-172
12
11%
172-174
9
8%
175
8
7%
176-179
5
4%
180
7
6%
 
Total votes: 114

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Re: The Official December 2017 Study Group

Postby GnarMarBinx » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:16 pm

littlewing67 wrote:
GnarMarBinx wrote:
littlewing67 wrote:Noiceeee I'm going to start Manhattan LR soon and ordered the fox book. Reviewing PT 82 today and doing some sections.

I think I might want to focus on drills more than PTs, but I like doing PTs too for endurance/timing.

I need to cut my LR down to make up for RC. Somehow I go like -8 test day but when I do LR sections I usually go like -4 all together.


When you're drilling LR, do you usually drill sections or by question type? I'm doing mostly by type right now but think I should probably get back into doing full sections for timing and stuff.


I do sections, but I probably should be doing type to hone in on the type I am getting wrong.

IDK I suck at studying


Hahaha when I was in undergrad I thought I was good at studying. I've realized that's not the case. I think it's prob a good idea to do a mix of the two maybe? Have some sessions where you focus on the questions you're not as good at and then drill sections as well to keep the speed up and the feeling of having to switch question type every time you go to a new question

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Re: The Official December 2017 Study Group

Postby littlewing67 » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:22 pm

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Re: The Official December 2017 Study Group

Postby Eleven » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:36 pm

PT 29 last night/this morning/lunch today as 4 timed sections.

Raw 92, Score 173
LR1: -2
RC: -4
LG: -1
LR2: -2

Made a dumb LG mistake and switched one correct answer to an incorrect one when waffling at the end of each LR section. Blind Review 178.

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Re: The Official December 2017 Study Group

Postby littlewing67 » Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:18 pm

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Re: The Official December 2017 Study Group

Postby Pyrex » Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:06 pm

No longer studying, have some old UNUSED practice tests hoping someone can use. See thread for details:

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=282719

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Re: The Official December 2017 Study Group

Postby peege » Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:13 pm

Okay y'all so I'm retaking from September, where I got a 163. My goal score for December is 170. Any advice from retakers on what improved their score or how to study effectively a second time?
I did the Bibles and drilled pretty relentlessly last go-round, but got nervous on logical reasoning and missed way more than normal. Any advice would help!!

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Re: The Official December 2017 Study Group

Postby bigflaw_ruleofjaw » Tue Oct 17, 2017 5:03 pm

Trying to stay positive but MAN am I discouraged after Sept.

Thought I did everything right in my prep leading up and ended up scoring about 8 points below my average, on my third take.

Went -7 on LG which is really difficult to swallow as I normally go -0. Trying to stay positive and view that as an opportunity but really hard to pick my confidence up off the ground right now.

I was taking almost a test/day in the two weeks prior to my test, which in retrospect was too much. This time around, I'm planning on working on specific areas and trying to improve that way. I'm not worried about endurance.

Also need to work on issues around nerves/anxiety, which I think is largely responsible for my drop in logic games - I don't think as clearly and then end up rushing and making simple mistakes that I wouldn't make while practicing.

Good luck to everyone else preparing. Hopefully this will be my last time in one of these threads!

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Re: The Official December 2017 Study Group

Postby 239840 » Tue Oct 17, 2017 5:54 pm

bigflaw_ruleofjaw wrote:Trying to stay positive but MAN am I discouraged after Sept.

Thought I did everything right in my prep leading up and ended up scoring about 8 points below my average, on my third take.

Went -7 on LG which is really difficult to swallow as I normally go -0. Trying to stay positive and view that as an opportunity but really hard to pick my confidence up off the ground right now.

I was taking almost a test/day in the two weeks prior to my test, which in retrospect was too much. This time around, I'm planning on working on specific areas and trying to improve that way. I'm not worried about endurance.

Also need to work on issues around nerves/anxiety, which I think is largely responsible for my drop in logic games - I don't think as clearly and then end up rushing and making simple mistakes that I wouldn't make while practicing.

Good luck to everyone else preparing. Hopefully this will be my last time in one of these threads!


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Re: The Official December 2017 Study Group

Postby Mikey » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:46 pm

kinda wanna start saving up all of my done PTs so I can burn them all together at some point while drinking tequila around a campfire with other LSAT takers

who is with me

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Re: The Official December 2017 Study Group

Postby Rupert Pupkin » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:00 pm

Mikey wrote:kinda wanna start saving up all of my done PTs so I can burn them all together at some point while drinking tequila around a campfire with other LSAT takers

who is with me


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Re: The Official December 2017 Study Group

Postby AvatarMeelo » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:22 pm

Rupert Pupkin wrote:
Mikey wrote:kinda wanna start saving up all of my done PTs so I can burn them all together at some point while drinking tequila around a campfire with other LSAT takers

who is with me


IN


Ooh I won’t drink but I’ll join in the burning of materials - I plenty of kindle for that fire!

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Re: The Official December 2017 Study Group

Postby Tavorak » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:31 pm

Mikey wrote:kinda wanna start saving up all of my done PTs so I can burn them all together at some point while drinking tequila around a campfire with other LSAT takers

who is with me

Kinda already did this after the September test. Whoops.

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Re: The Official December 2017 Study Group

Postby kgm1990 » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:53 pm

The absolute hardest part of studying for me are the schedules that I create for myself. It literally takes me a day to organize these things and write it out in my planners and Excel sheets. I hate the idea of the wasting time on not knowing, or idly trying to study it ALL. Is anyone else like this?

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Re: The Official December 2017 Study Group

Postby 239840 » Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:09 pm

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Re: The Official December 2017 Study Group

Postby chewinggum » Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:20 pm

kgm1990 wrote:The absolute hardest part of studying for me are the schedules that I create for myself. It literally takes me a day to organize these things and write it out in my planners and Excel sheets. I hate the idea of the wasting time on not knowing, or idly trying to study it ALL. Is anyone else like this?

Same. I have to make a schedule or else I will definitely be unproductive. I think it’s easier to stay on track when you plan for the week instead of each day so that you don’t slack off and end up falling behind

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Re: The Official December 2017 Study Group

Postby PhiladelphiaCollins » Wed Oct 18, 2017 12:34 am

getting back into it after a week off...don't miss it.

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Re: The Official December 2017 Study Group

Postby kiklavan » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:00 am

littlewing67 wrote:I think it was in this thread, but I read from some folks that they BR for like 6 hours or something? Can you please explain to me what you are doing in that time span? I think I'm going to start BRing where I make a word document and go meticulously through each and every question until my eyes bleed, versus what I usually do which is go through all the questions with a pen and then change/keep answers.


My review takes about that long. I force myself to write out why the correct answer is what it is, why the incorrect answers are incorrect, and then I generally look up the question on the Manhattan site to see if my reasoning is the same as others or if I missed something.

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Re: The Official December 2017 Study Group

Postby AvatarMeelo » Wed Oct 18, 2017 12:10 pm

kgm1990 wrote:The absolute hardest part of studying for me are the schedules that I create for myself. It literally takes me a day to organize these things and write it out in my planners and Excel sheets. I hate the idea of the wasting time on not knowing, or idly trying to study it ALL. Is anyone else like this?


I made a calendar when I was studying for Sept - each day had something under it that needed to be done. It was nice because it got me organized, but it also got stressful because I realized I was holding myself to a high standard and I would freak out when I wouldn't get something done and then I ended up rushing and possibly wasting material. I think it's a good idea to have a general idea of what to do so you don't put yourself in a position of trying to figure out what to do next. But don't be super strict with it otherwise you're spending more time trying to keep a timeline that may not even be realistic for you.

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Re: The Official December 2017 Study Group

Postby Rupert Pupkin » Wed Oct 18, 2017 12:22 pm

chewinggum wrote:
kgm1990 wrote:The absolute hardest part of studying for me are the schedules that I create for myself. It literally takes me a day to organize these things and write it out in my planners and Excel sheets. I hate the idea of the wasting time on not knowing, or idly trying to study it ALL. Is anyone else like this?

Same. I have to make a schedule or else I will definitely be unproductive. I think it’s easier to stay on track when you plan for the week instead of each day so that you don’t slack off and end up falling behind


I stopped doing this but instead would record the actual time stamp i spent working... for example: I would mark that I sat down at 12:21 and worked until 1:15 and then start again when i actually sit down and start working again. I would tally up my hours at the end of the day. This helped me stay accountable. I also just briefly noted what i did so i had an idea moving forward. I got this idea from Economist GMAT and it recorded the actual amt of time you spent working as your progression through their program. THis def helped me stay accountable and grind

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Re: The Official December 2017 Study Group

Postby MercW07 » Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:22 pm

Welp I think I officially experienced my first burn out this morning. Completely screwed up a relatively easy LG section, could not stay focused during either LR which resulted in a few point lower scores in each section, and could not even bring myself to start the RC section after the first 3 sections left me feeling completely deflated. I was on such a roll with this stuff last week, and really thought this was the week I was going to break into the high 160s/170s.

Im going back down to my UG this weekend to visit some old friends so that should be a nice break from studying, but what should I do for the next 2 days? Im scheduled to take a PT on Friday, but at this point Im not sure if thats the best idea...

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Re: The Official December 2017 Study Group

Postby littlewing67 » Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:07 pm

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Re: The Official December 2017 Study Group

Postby chewinggum » Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:41 pm

Rupert Pupkin wrote:
chewinggum wrote:
kgm1990 wrote:The absolute hardest part of studying for me are the schedules that I create for myself. It literally takes me a day to organize these things and write it out in my planners and Excel sheets. I hate the idea of the wasting time on not knowing, or idly trying to study it ALL. Is anyone else like this?

Same. I have to make a schedule or else I will definitely be unproductive. I think it’s easier to stay on track when you plan for the week instead of each day so that you don’t slack off and end up falling behind


I stopped doing this but instead would record the actual time stamp i spent working... for example: I would mark that I sat down at 12:21 and worked until 1:15 and then start again when i actually sit down and start working again. I would tally up my hours at the end of the day. This helped me stay accountable. I also just briefly noted what i did so i had an idea moving forward. I got this idea from Economist GMAT and it recorded the actual amt of time you spent working as your progression through their program. THis def helped me stay accountable and grind

I might try that.

I have the issue of convincing myself to take a "power nap" after work which turns into a coma. So I kind of have to plan ahead bc I don't trust myself

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Re: The Official December 2017 Study Group

Postby littlewing67 » Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:38 pm

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Re: The Official December 2017 Study Group

Postby urmlaw17 » Wed Oct 18, 2017 7:06 pm

I just registered for a retake.

I really dont want to retake but with my 168 and my low gpa, I have to aim for a 170 to get into T14. Wish me good luck.

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Re: The Official December 2017 Study Group

Postby AvatarMeelo » Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:09 pm

Hello friends, just wanted to pop in and say I did a drill of 58 sufficient assumption questions and only got 6 wrong, 2 of which were stupid mistakes with the other 4 being in the hardest category. I know this isn’t a big deal for many of you guys but I used to consistently get SA questions wrong so this is huggeeee for me!! Also for anyone else who’s having a similar issue with SA: I did the chapter in Manhattan LSAT and then followed it up with the questions from Fox book. The 58 I did right now is a Cambridge set.



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