The Official December 2017 Study Group

Prepare for the LSAT or discuss it with others in this forum.

We all want a 180. What's the lowest score you'll take?

Sub 160
4
4%
160-163
12
11%
164-167
26
23%
167-169
18
16%
170
13
11%
171-172
12
11%
172-174
9
8%
175
8
7%
176-179
5
4%
180
7
6%
 
Total votes: 114

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Re: The Official December 2017 Study Group

Postby AvatarMeelo » Tue Nov 07, 2017 1:13 pm

peege wrote:Any tips for sufficient assumption questions??


Usually - but not always - the conclusion of SA questions introduces a new term or new idea. You want to connect what's already in the premise to that new idea, and the correct choice usually - but once again, not always - has that new term or idea.

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Re: The Official December 2017 Study Group

Postby Mikey » Tue Nov 07, 2017 1:19 pm

AvatarMeelo wrote:

why'd you change your name O_O

idc, you will forever be known as clueless to me!!!!!!

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Re: The Official December 2017 Study Group

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Re: The Official December 2017 Study Group

Postby littlewing67 » Tue Nov 07, 2017 1:20 pm

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Re: The Official December 2017 Study Group

Postby AvatarMeelo » Tue Nov 07, 2017 1:21 pm

littlewing67 wrote:
Mikey wrote:
AvatarMeelo wrote:

why'd you change your name O_O

idc, you will forever be known as clueless to me!!!!!!


LMAOOOOOO :lol: i know why heh


hush child.

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Re: The Official December 2017 Study Group

Postby Mikey » Tue Nov 07, 2017 1:22 pm

AvatarMeelo wrote:
littlewing67 wrote:
Mikey wrote:
AvatarMeelo wrote:

why'd you change your name O_O

idc, you will forever be known as clueless to me!!!!!!


LMAOOOOOO :lol: i know why heh


hush child.


not gonna lie, with each passing day, I feel like this is becoming more of a possibility (at least for me):

littlewing67 wrote:lol suicide pact if we don't do well in dec???????????

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Re: The Official December 2017 Study Group

Postby AvatarMeelo » Tue Nov 07, 2017 1:23 pm

Mikey wrote:
littlewing67 wrote:lol suicide pact if we don't do well in dec???????????


my plan is to make some very careless decisions that doesnt involve me dying if i dont do well

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Re: The Official December 2017 Study Group

Postby Mikey » Tue Nov 07, 2017 1:27 pm

AvatarMeelo wrote:
Mikey wrote:
littlewing67 wrote:lol suicide pact if we don't do well in dec???????????


my plan is to make some very careless decisions that doesnt involve me dying if i dont do well

but the LSAT is our lives. the LSAT defines me as a person, and currently I'm about a 119

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Re: The Official December 2017 Study Group

Postby urmlaw17 » Tue Nov 07, 2017 1:35 pm

Experiment626 wrote:
urmlaw17 wrote:I'm scoring -3,-4 on my timed LR sections. How do I review LR sections?

What I'm doing now is reviewing the wrong questions and going over unsure questions that I got right


Sounds like a BR to me. I'm at the same point but most of the questions I miss are hard flaw/weaken questions so I'm doing some extra focus on that. Have you checked to see if there's a trend in the question types?



I haven't checked the trends! haha

Ill use 7 sage for that!
Thanks

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Postby urmlaw17 » Tue Nov 07, 2017 1:42 pm

is it ok to talk about a specific game or should I use spoiler tag? LOL

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Postby urmlaw17 » Tue Nov 07, 2017 1:43 pm

littlewing67 wrote:
Mikey wrote:
AvatarMeelo wrote:
Mikey wrote:
littlewing67 wrote:lol suicide pact if we don't do well in dec???????????


my plan is to make some very careless decisions that doesnt involve me dying if i dont do well

but the LSAT is our lives. the LSAT defines me as a person, and currently I'm about a 119


I’m still down with the suicide pact btw

If I get another 164 I will be pissed lol


If i score low on real test, I will be very sad.

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Re: The Official December 2017 Study Group

Postby Experiment626 » Tue Nov 07, 2017 1:53 pm

urmlaw17 wrote:is it ok to talk about a specific game or should I use spoiler tag? LOL


Mention it but put your question behind a spoiler.

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Postby urmlaw17 » Tue Nov 07, 2017 2:24 pm

Experiment626 wrote:
urmlaw17 wrote:is it ok to talk about a specific game or should I use spoiler tag? LOL


Mention it but put your question behind a spoiler.


Thanks!

PS I love Stitch!

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Postby urmlaw17 » Tue Nov 07, 2017 2:30 pm

Experiment626 wrote:
urmlaw17 wrote:is it ok to talk about a specific game or should I use spoiler tag? LOL


Mention it but put your question behind a spoiler.


Thanks!

PS I love Stitch!

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Re: The Official December 2017 Study Group

Postby MercW07 » Tue Nov 07, 2017 3:25 pm

Just got wrecked by game 4 from PT 72. I hate miscellaneous games.

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Postby Experiment626 » Tue Nov 07, 2017 3:38 pm

MercW07 wrote:Just got wrecked by game 4 from PT 72. I hate miscellaneous games.



Yea, that was not a fun one. I think I went -2 on that because I needed an extra 2 minutes...

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Postby KLK65 » Tue Nov 07, 2017 7:05 pm

MercW07 wrote:Just got wrecked by game 4 from PT 72. I hate miscellaneous games.


Good to know I wasn't the only one. I couldn't even figure out how to start that one.

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Re: The Official December 2017 Study Group

Postby JessiCAL » Tue Nov 07, 2017 7:26 pm

Hey guys!

Need some advice regarding closing the gap between my actual, timed score and my blind review score.

I'm consistently scoring in the 170s during my blind review, but my timed score seems stuck at around 166-168. I've been stuck at that score range for a while. My raw score is *very* consistently around -15, no matter the difficulty of the test, so my scaled score fluctuates. I'm not sure exactly what the consistency means (other than I'm consistently wrong), but my intuition tells me that there's some significance to it...

I'm a little confused about how to properly study at this point so that I can close my BR gap (or at least make it smaller haha). I know that BR is supposed to indicate one's understanding of the exam and concepts tested, but I'm not sure exactly how I should be studying so that my timed score improves. For example, should I only be doing timed practice (individual sections & full PTs)? Alternatively, should I be working on furthering my understanding of the problems so that I'm able to eliminate wrong answers faster/more efficiently? (I guess that if I'm missing problems under timed conditions, it means that I don't really understand the test as well as I thought I did?)

Did any of you close your BR gap? If so, how did you study? And did/does anyone else have a very consistent raw score (regardless of test difficulty)?

Thanks in advance for all your help! Hope your studying is going well... :)

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Re: The Official December 2017 Study Group

Postby Experiment626 » Tue Nov 07, 2017 8:04 pm

JessiCAL wrote:Hey guys!

Need some advice regarding closing the gap between my actual, timed score and my blind review score.

I'm consistently scoring in the 170s during my blind review, but my timed score seems stuck at around 166-168. I've been stuck at that score range for a while. My raw score is *very* consistently around -15, no matter the difficulty of the test, so my scaled score fluctuates. I'm not sure exactly what the consistency means (other than I'm consistently wrong), but my intuition tells me that there's some significance to it...

I'm a little confused about how to properly study at this point so that I can close my BR gap (or at least make it smaller haha). I know that BR is supposed to indicate one's understanding of the exam and concepts tested, but I'm not sure exactly how I should be studying so that my timed score improves. For example, should I only be doing timed practice (individual sections & full PTs)? Alternatively, should I be working on furthering my understanding of the problems so that I'm able to eliminate wrong answers faster/more efficiently? (I guess that if I'm missing problems under timed conditions, it means that I don't really understand the test as well as I thought I did?)

Did any of you close your BR gap? If so, how did you study? And did/does anyone else have a very consistent raw score (regardless of test difficulty)?

Thanks in advance for all your help! Hope your studying is going well... :)



Are there any trends with the questions you missed?
Are you running out of time or do you get through and just miss questions?

I'm closing the gap on mine, it has been a combo of focusing on the question types that were showing up in the data and drilling sections to get faster.

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Re: The Official December 2017 Study Group

Postby Experiment626 » Tue Nov 07, 2017 8:07 pm

KLK65 wrote:
MercW07 wrote:Just got wrecked by game 4 from PT 72. I hate miscellaneous games.


Good to know I wasn't the only one. I couldn't even figure out how to start that one.


There's a key inference that makes it fall into place if you get it.

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Re: The Official December 2017 Study Group

Postby Rupert Pupkin » Tue Nov 07, 2017 8:10 pm

JessiCAL wrote:Hey guys!

Need some advice regarding closing the gap between my actual, timed score and my blind review score.

I'm consistently scoring in the 170s during my blind review, but my timed score seems stuck at around 166-168. I've been stuck at that score range for a while. My raw score is *very* consistently around -15, no matter the difficulty of the test, so my scaled score fluctuates. I'm not sure exactly what the consistency means (other than I'm consistently wrong), but my intuition tells me that there's some significance to it...

I'm a little confused about how to properly study at this point so that I can close my BR gap (or at least make it smaller haha). I know that BR is supposed to indicate one's understanding of the exam and concepts tested, but I'm not sure exactly how I should be studying so that my timed score improves. For example, should I only be doing timed practice (individual sections & full PTs)? Alternatively, should I be working on furthering my understanding of the problems so that I'm able to eliminate wrong answers faster/more efficiently? (I guess that if I'm missing problems under timed conditions, it means that I don't really understand the test as well as I thought I did?)

Did any of you close your BR gap? If so, how did you study? And did/does anyone else have a very consistent raw score (regardless of test difficulty)?

Thanks in advance for all your help! Hope your studying is going well... :)


I do timed sections in addition to full PTs. Timed sections help a TON! Because its not a full PT, stamina isnt really a thing so you can just be 100% focused and crush the section. Eventually it starts to translate to your PTs as well. Also, yeah check to make sure you arent consistently messing up a specific question type and if you are review those fundamentals, drill the q-type and when you approach it next time in a section or PT be concious that you are applying the new fundamental info you are reinforcing... This is what I am doing and I seem to be improving!

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Re: The Official December 2017 Study Group

Postby peege » Tue Nov 07, 2017 8:36 pm

MercW07 wrote:Just got wrecked by game 4 from PT 72. I hate miscellaneous games.


I made a hypothetical game board for that one and it was so much easier. When in doubt just fill in the slots

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Re: The Official December 2017 Study Group

Postby Experiment626 » Tue Nov 07, 2017 8:52 pm

peege wrote:
MercW07 wrote:Just got wrecked by game 4 from PT 72. I hate miscellaneous games.


I made a hypothetical game board for that one and it was so much easier. When in doubt just fill in the slots


That's pretty much how the misc games go. Put the information you have in a way you think will work for you to solve the questions and GO. Don't HERP DE DERP and burn time.

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Re: The Official December 2017 Study Group

Postby PhiladelphiaCollins » Tue Nov 07, 2017 11:42 pm

PhiladelphiaCollins wrote:Did PT 71 yesterday AM, ugh felt like a nightmare. LR seemed difficult, I spent way too much time on G3 and didn't finish G4 which was pretty easy and made a bubbling error in RC which I didn't catch till the 5 minute warning so I had to scrambled to fix it (and then ran out of time). Ended up with a 166 but God, that was a rough go. That was the first early morning test I've taken so far, so hopefully it was just me getting into the groove than anything else.


Ended up going LR1 -2 LG -5 :shock: LR2: -7 RC -6

G3 burned me hard for time and I had to re-bubble once I noticed I slipped up on RC. Ended up getting a 178 on BR so at least I have some idea what I'm doing lmao.

Taking PT72 tomorrow morning, if I break 170 I'm buying the re-mastered Crash Bandicoot collection for PS4.



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