June 2017 Waiters Thread- Grayday! -9 curve. GL all

Prepare for the LSAT or discuss it with others in this forum.

What did you get? (Presumptive release day poll. Revolting enabled)

177+
7
5%
175+
6
4%
173+
21
15%
170+
25
18%
167+
27
19%
165+
16
11%
163+
14
10%
160+
8
6%
159 -
16
11%
 
Total votes: 140

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Re: June 2017 Waiters Thread- Dowsing for gray

Postby chandhi » Wed Jun 28, 2017 1:54 pm

chargers21 wrote:
chandhi wrote:Checking in as the resident TLSer who has actively organized and campaigned around gun violence issues for many years

on the left

Booooooooo :lol:

just trying to take your guns and keep them in my castle

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Postby Future Ex-Engineer » Wed Jun 28, 2017 1:56 pm

chandhi wrote:
chargers21 wrote:
chandhi wrote:Checking in as the resident TLSer who has actively organized and campaigned around gun violence issues for many years

on the left

Booooooooo :lol:

just trying to take your guns and keep them in my castle


but if you're leftist, how is anyone going to have a castle? :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Postby Mint-Berry_Crunch » Wed Jun 28, 2017 1:57 pm

chargers21 wrote:
Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:
chargers21 wrote:
DorkothyParker wrote:
chargers21 wrote:
DorkothyParker wrote:I like the idea of Friday over Monday. I like to leave bad news via email before I leave the office too. ;) (JK)

Also, the only politics I want is the politics of dancing. Also, pro pineapple/fruit on pizza!

(Yes I have political leanings. I wouldn't even call it a leaning, I'm actually pretty fervent which is why I have to stop myself from being tempted into getting involved.)

*provides temptation* Do you support constitutional carry? :mrgreen:


I am super pro hunting. (I don't hunt or have close relations with hunters, but I love eating animals.)
I don't see why it would be such a big deal for those who want to carry handguns to take a mandatory safety class. It used to be required for a concealed weapon license in my state (open carry has been open to any adult forever). But now you can conceal or open carry to your heart's desire. Again, can we not ask folks take 2 or 3 hour out of their Saturday to learn basic safety if they have a handgun? And maybe not allow handguns on college campuses... it's not that hard.

In any case, I'm basically a Democratic Socialist. All about that equity. Volunteer as a legal observer. Dream of working for the ACLU one day.
Wait, is this shitlib?

That is shit lib lol

But what about "the right if the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed"? That seems like some sort of infringement


They'd still have guns

Highlighted, but I also edited it for spelling



This doesn't conflict. You're not taking gun ownership away from people. in order to violate we'd have to actually decrease ownership. They would have the right still, just not in certain cases. While I get "infringement" would indicate that it can't be limited or undermined, restricting location doesn't work against that right since it's still allowed elsewhere





(I'm doing this bc I'm bored I like guns)

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Postby tuna_wasabi » Wed Jun 28, 2017 1:57 pm

heyduchess wrote:FINISH THIS SENTENCE.

When I open my LSAT score email, I'm going to ____________________.

I'll go first: "chase my score with a shot of Espolon."


I'll cover my screen first with a paper or something just to postpone reality for 5 seconds or so.

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Postby chargers21 » Wed Jun 28, 2017 1:58 pm

chandhi wrote:
chargers21 wrote:
chandhi wrote:Checking in as the resident TLSer who has actively organized and campaigned around gun violence issues for many years

on the left

Booooooooo :lol:

just trying to take your guns and keep them in my castle

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Postby Walliums » Wed Jun 28, 2017 1:58 pm

chargers21 wrote:
Walliums wrote:
chargers21 wrote:But what about "the right if the people to keep and bare arms, shall not be infringed"? That seems like some sort of infringement


You forgot to mention "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State"

But I for one agree with the right to have bare arms

Militias are civilian armies. And the security of a free state includes security from THE state. This is fun, I'm always curious as to why some people's gun opinions are the way they are. *Some disagree on the meanings of words, others bypass this altogether and want the constitution ignored or changed*


But do we not already have a well-regulated militia? And by you personally owning a gun are you a member of a well-regulated militia? And I wouldn't be so quick to agree that "security of a free State" means that security from it. But then again I am usually a strict constitutionalist :)

I am always curious about this too -- the second amendment is so poorly written that you have to pick and choose what part you want to focus on.

If I am remembering the history of interpreting the second amendment, for a long time "well-regulated militia" was emphasized over the "right to bear arms" -- but only recently have the courts allowed a more liberal reading of the amendment. Which is just a little ironic to me, since a lot of folks who lean right get upset with the "living" constitution argument for other social rulings :)

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Postby it's allgood » Wed Jun 28, 2017 1:58 pm

QueenBAYder wrote:
DorkothyParker wrote:I like the idea of Friday over Monday. I like to leave bad news via email before I leave the office too. ;) (JK)

Also, the only politics I want is the politics of dancing. Also, pro pineapple/fruit on pizza!

(Yes I have political leanings. I wouldn't even call it a leaning, I'm actually pretty fervent which is why I have to stop myself from being tempted into getting involved.)

100% this. I am also pro pineapple on pizza. Have you guys ever had grilled pineapple? It's super delicious. I highly recommend slicing some up and throwing it on the grill at your next BBQ.


Totally pro pineapple on pizza but no cheese.

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Postby heyduchess » Wed Jun 28, 2017 1:59 pm

Future Ex-Engineer wrote:Just gonna say it's amazing that we got to almost 85 pages before someone mentioned the fact that they are a vegan. Normally that's like page 3 material.


I mentioned it in the June LSAT study group when we talked about sacrificing goats.

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Postby tuna_wasabi » Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:01 pm

chargers21 wrote:
lynn.wibi wrote:
chargers21 wrote:The candidate referral system (CRS) is opted into on your LSAC account online. It's how you get tons fee waivers. I received waivers from every school other than HYS, Columbia, Penn, Gtown, and Cornell through this system. I asked these schools for waivers, only got 1 from Gtown. Oddly enough, I only paid the app fee for 1 school and it's where I'm going


Has anyone ever got fee waiver from the HYS CCN? :shock:

I got waivers for Chicago and NYU. My LSAT was a bit low for Columbia and Penn thresholds I think. The only school that I expected a waiver from that did not send one would be Cornell. They were literally a perfect match for my numbers, so not sure what happened there (no worries, I'm now going to attend there on a large scholarship). Essentially, none of the Ivies sent me a waiver and everyone else did (besides assumes Ivy Stanford)


Congrats for the huge scholarship! What're your stats? I guess for HYS (especially Y, just because) it's much harder to get fee waivers.*

*Goes to show how studying for the LSAT does nothing to my reasoning IRL. I'm all for anecdotal inference.

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Postby it's allgood » Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:01 pm

Future Ex-Engineer wrote:
heyduchess wrote:FINISH THIS SENTENCE.

When I open my LSAT score email, I'm going to ____________________.

I'll go first: "chase my score with a shot of Espolon."


spontaneously combust and die.


Hope my acceptance to the school I am wait listed on is on the way.

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Re: June 2017 Waiters Thread- Dowsing for gray

Postby chargers21 » Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:01 pm

Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:
chargers21 wrote:
Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:
chargers21 wrote:
DorkothyParker wrote:
chargers21 wrote:
DorkothyParker wrote:I like the idea of Friday over Monday. I like to leave bad news via email before I leave the office too. ;) (JK)

Also, the only politics I want is the politics of dancing. Also, pro pineapple/fruit on pizza!

(Yes I have political leanings. I wouldn't even call it a leaning, I'm actually pretty fervent which is why I have to stop myself from being tempted into getting involved.)

*provides temptation* Do you support constitutional carry? :mrgreen:


I am super pro hunting. (I don't hunt or have close relations with hunters, but I love eating animals.)
I don't see why it would be such a big deal for those who want to carry handguns to take a mandatory safety class. It used to be required for a concealed weapon license in my state (open carry has been open to any adult forever). But now you can conceal or open carry to your heart's desire. Again, can we not ask folks take 2 or 3 hour out of their Saturday to learn basic safety if they have a handgun? And maybe not allow handguns on college campuses... it's not that hard.

In any case, I'm basically a Democratic Socialist. All about that equity. Volunteer as a legal observer. Dream of working for the ACLU one day.
Wait, is this shitlib?

That is shit lib lol

But what about "the right if the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed"? That seems like some sort of infringement


They'd still have guns

Highlighted, but I also edited it for spelling



This doesn't conflict. You're not taking gun ownership away from people. in order to violate we'd have to actually decrease ownership. They would have the right still, just not in certain cases. While I get "infringement" would indicate that it can't be limited or undermined, restricting location doesn't work against that right since it's still allowed elsewhere





(I'm doing this bc I'm bored I like guns)

My issue wasn't that it would infringe on ownership, it was carrying. Keep arms indicates ownership, which is not infringed by these laws. Bear arms indicates carrying, which would be infringed. I don't think the government should have any more right to a gun in a location than a citizen. We the people are this country, not the state. We allow the state to exist, not the other way around. We should have the means to remove the state if they infringe on rights. Etc., yada yada yada. I'm also bored

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Re: June 2017 Waiters Thread- Dowsing for gray

Postby chandhi » Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:02 pm

Future Ex-Engineer wrote:
chandhi wrote:
chargers21 wrote:
chandhi wrote:Checking in as the resident TLSer who has actively organized and campaigned around gun violence issues for many years

on the left

Booooooooo :lol:

just trying to take your guns and keep them in my castle


but if you're leftist, how is anyone going to have a castle? :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Postby Future Ex-Engineer » Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:02 pm

chandhi wrote:
Future Ex-Engineer wrote:
chandhi wrote:
chargers21 wrote:
chandhi wrote:Checking in as the resident TLSer who has actively organized and campaigned around gun violence issues for many years

on the left

Booooooooo :lol:

just trying to take your guns and keep them in my castle


but if you're leftist, how is anyone going to have a castle? :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Haha love it. Michigan forever

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Postby QueenBAYder » Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:04 pm

it's allgood wrote:
QueenBAYder wrote:
DorkothyParker wrote:I like the idea of Friday over Monday. I like to leave bad news via email before I leave the office too. ;) (JK)

Also, the only politics I want is the politics of dancing. Also, pro pineapple/fruit on pizza!

(Yes I have political leanings. I wouldn't even call it a leaning, I'm actually pretty fervent which is why I have to stop myself from being tempted into getting involved.)

100% this. I am also pro pineapple on pizza. Have you guys ever had grilled pineapple? It's super delicious. I highly recommend slicing some up and throwing it on the grill at your next BBQ.


Totally pro pineapple on pizza but no cheese.

I'm ashamed to bring up chain pizza places when I live in the pizza capital of the country but i'm a huge fan of that bbq chicken/pinapple pizza at Pappa Johns. Although, due to the fact that the only time I order/eat this is in a drunken state at 2am, it might actually be terrible and I just think I like it...

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Postby chargers21 » Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:07 pm

Walliums wrote:
chargers21 wrote:
Walliums wrote:
chargers21 wrote:But what about "the right if the people to keep and bare arms, shall not be infringed"? That seems like some sort of infringement


You forgot to mention "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State"

But I for one agree with the right to have bare arms

Militias are civilian armies. And the security of a free state includes security from THE state. This is fun, I'm always curious as to why some people's gun opinions are the way they are. *Some disagree on the meanings of words, others bypass this altogether and want the constitution ignored or changed*


But do we not already have a well-regulated militia? And by you personally owning a gun are you a member of a well-regulated militia? And I wouldn't be so quick to agree that "security of a free State" means that security from it. But then again I am usually a strict constitutionalist :)

I am always curious about this too -- the second amendment is so poorly written that you have to pick and choose what part you want to focus on.

If I am remembering the history of interpreting the second amendment, for a long time "well-regulated militia" was emphasized over the "right to bear arms" -- but only recently have the courts allowed a more liberal reading of the amendment. Which is just a little ironic to me, since a lot of folks who lean right get upset with the "living" constitution argument for other social rulings :)

All able bodied citizens are essentially part of their local militia in times of need. The US military is in no shape, way, or form a militia.

Security of a "free" state. This is why the state in control is not always what we are fighting for the security of, sometimes it is for security from the unfree state in control.

I think using strict literalism of every word for the entire 2nd amendment is 100% justification for constitutional carry and civilian ownership of high capacity semi automatic rifles (otherwise a NY assault rifle)

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Postby QueenBAYder » Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:10 pm

Just got another TTT LSAT email from California Western. There really needs to be a moratorium on putting "LSAT" in email subject lines for everyone but LSAC.

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Postby Mint-Berry_Crunch » Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:10 pm

chargers21 wrote:
Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:
This doesn't conflict. You're not taking gun ownership away from people. in order to violate we'd have to actually decrease ownership. They would have the right still, just not in certain cases. While I get "infringement" would indicate that it can't be limited or undermined, restricting location doesn't work against that right since it's still allowed elsewhere

My issue wasn't that it would infringe on ownership, it was carrying. Keep arms indicates ownership, which is not infringed by these laws. Bear arms indicates carrying, which would be infringed. I don't think the government should have any more right to a gun in a location than a citizen. We the people are this country, not the state. We allow the state to exist, not the other way around. We should have the means to remove the state if they infringe on rights. Etc., yada yada yada. I'm also bored


My point was that if it's supported by people which it is then it's fine to restrict. I'm willing to bet that the people who are in gun restricted areas are totally fine with the restriction so "government oppression" isn't really a problem there since its acting in interest of people.


Your right to overthrow the government isn't violated by gov saying you can't take guns on college campuses.

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Postby chargers21 » Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:17 pm

Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:
My point was that if it's supported by people which it is then it's fine to restrict. I'm willing to bet that the people who are in gun restricted areas are totally fine with the restriction so "government oppression" isn't really a problem there since its acting in interest of people.


Your right to overthrow the government isn't violated by gov saying you can't take guns on college campuses.

Private colleges are free to restrict gun carrying as much as they like.

The constitution protects from the majority, so the majority wanting gun ownership limited doesn't make it constitutional.

Also, I will be living in a major city with strict gun control in the near future because that's where I will have to be to work, and I most certainly will not be okay living in a left wing fascist area that restricts my rights just as much as I don't currently like living in my right wing fascist state. We just need to legalize freedom

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Postby Mint-Berry_Crunch » Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:20 pm

chargers21 wrote:
Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:
My point was that if it's supported by people which it is then it's fine to restrict. I'm willing to bet that the people who are in gun restricted areas are totally fine with the restriction so "government oppression" isn't really a problem there since its acting in interest of people.


Your right to overthrow the government isn't violated by gov saying you can't take guns on college campuses.

Private colleges are free to restrict gun carrying as much as they like.

The constitution protects from the majority, so the majority wanting gun ownership limited doesn't make it constitutional.

Also, I will be living in a major city with strict gun control in the near future because that's where I will have to be to work, and I most certainly will not be okay living in a left wing fascist area that restricts my rights just as much as I don't currently like living in my right wing fascist state. We just need to legalize freedom



Protect from the majority and overturning any majority opinion which is implied by that comment are two different things
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Postby DorkothyParker » Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:21 pm

QueenBAYder wrote:I'm ashamed to bring up chain pizza places when I live in the pizza capital of the country but i'm a huge fan of that bbq chicken/pinapple pizza at Pappa Johns. Although, due to the fact that the only time I order/eat this is in a drunken state at 2am, it might actually be terrible and I just think I like it...


Papa Johns isn't edible to me. I can eat cheap pizza. I'm not a monster. I love Papa Murphy's take & bake. But, the sauce is just not edible to me.

As a whole though, I love pizza. Which is to say, I love whole pizzas. Although I might be slightly exaggerating. Go to is any combo with a good fat-salt-acid ratio. Local joint has a sourdough crust pizza with pesto, local sausage, jalapenos, and tomato. Top with some fresh garlic and a tripel and just fall over and die. #LittleDramatic

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Postby Walliums » Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:23 pm

chargers21 wrote:
Walliums wrote:
chargers21 wrote:
Walliums wrote:
chargers21 wrote:But what about "the right if the people to keep and bare arms, shall not be infringed"? That seems like some sort of infringement


You forgot to mention "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State"

But I for one agree with the right to have bare arms

Militias are civilian armies. And the security of a free state includes security from THE state. This is fun, I'm always curious as to why some people's gun opinions are the way they are. *Some disagree on the meanings of words, others bypass this altogether and want the constitution ignored or changed*


But do we not already have a well-regulated militia? And by you personally owning a gun are you a member of a well-regulated militia? And I wouldn't be so quick to agree that "security of a free State" means that security from it. But then again I am usually a strict constitutionalist :)

I am always curious about this too -- the second amendment is so poorly written that you have to pick and choose what part you want to focus on.

If I am remembering the history of interpreting the second amendment, for a long time "well-regulated militia" was emphasized over the "right to bear arms" -- but only recently have the courts allowed a more liberal reading of the amendment. Which is just a little ironic to me, since a lot of folks who lean right get upset with the "living" constitution argument for other social rulings :)

All able bodied citizens are essentially part of their local militia in times of need. The US military is in no shape, way, or form a militia.

Security of a "free" state. This is why the state in control is not always what we are fighting for the security of, sometimes it is for security from the unfree state in control.

I think using strict literalism of every word for the entire 2nd amendment is 100% justification for constitutional carry and civilian ownership of high capacity semi automatic rifles (otherwise a NY assault rifle)



But it's not just a local militia in time of need -- it's a well-regulated militia. I'm not referring to the U.S. military to fit this bill but rather each state's national guard. You may disagree that state national guards are militias, but regardless the constitution refers to a well-regulated militia, not just any militia.

And I would say that regarding a free state it sounds more to me like the purpose there is to keep the state in its free state - to ward off outside influences that may disrupt that. But that doesn't mean it can't be disrupted by internal forces.

And I think that using strict literalism of every word in the entire amendment is not 100% justification for constitutional carry and civilian ownership of what you mention. So we'll have to disagree.

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Postby Walliums » Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:27 pm

chargers21 wrote:
Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:
My point was that if it's supported by people which it is then it's fine to restrict. I'm willing to bet that the people who are in gun restricted areas are totally fine with the restriction so "government oppression" isn't really a problem there since its acting in interest of people.


Your right to overthrow the government isn't violated by gov saying you can't take guns on college campuses.

Private colleges are free to restrict gun carrying as much as they like.

The constitution protects from the majority, so the majority wanting gun ownership limited doesn't make it constitutional.

Also, I will be living in a major city with strict gun control in the near future because that's where I will have to be to work, and I most certainly will not be okay living in a left wing fascist area that restricts my rights just as much as I don't currently like living in my right wing fascist state. We just need to legalize freedom


See, this right here is why I have trouble with libertarianism (not sure if you consider yourself a big or little l). In a perfect world, it would be nice to legalize "freedom" (or I am guessing you are referring to freedom to choose to do whatever you wish). But we don't live in a perfect world -- we live in one where people exercise their freedoms and infringe on others freedoms at the same time.

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Postby Future Ex-Engineer » Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:35 pm

DorkothyParker wrote:
QueenBAYder wrote:I'm ashamed to bring up chain pizza places when I live in the pizza capital of the country but i'm a huge fan of that bbq chicken/pinapple pizza at Pappa Johns. Although, due to the fact that the only time I order/eat this is in a drunken state at 2am, it might actually be terrible and I just think I like it...


Papa Johns isn't edible to me. I can eat cheap pizza. I'm not a monster. I love Papa Murphy's take & bake. But, the sauce is just not edible to me.

As a whole though, I love pizza. Which is to say, I love whole pizzas. Although I might be slightly exaggerating. Go to is any combo with a good fat-salt-acid ratio. Local joint has a sourdough crust pizza with pesto, local sausage, jalapenos, and tomato. Top with some fresh garlic and a tripel and just fall over and die. #LittleDramatic


Papa Johns worst chain pizza in existence (except maybe little Caesar's).

Pizza hut the real OG when it comes to chains. They get f'ing pizza in they name yo

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Re: June 2017 Waiters Thread- Dowsing for gray

Postby QueenBAYder » Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:36 pm

Future Ex-Engineer wrote:
DorkothyParker wrote:
QueenBAYder wrote:I'm ashamed to bring up chain pizza places when I live in the pizza capital of the country but i'm a huge fan of that bbq chicken/pinapple pizza at Pappa Johns. Although, due to the fact that the only time I order/eat this is in a drunken state at 2am, it might actually be terrible and I just think I like it...


Papa Johns isn't edible to me. I can eat cheap pizza. I'm not a monster. I love Papa Murphy's take & bake. But, the sauce is just not edible to me.

As a whole though, I love pizza. Which is to say, I love whole pizzas. Although I might be slightly exaggerating. Go to is any combo with a good fat-salt-acid ratio. Local joint has a sourdough crust pizza with pesto, local sausage, jalapenos, and tomato. Top with some fresh garlic and a tripel and just fall over and die. #LittleDramatic


Papa Johns worst chain pizza in existence (except maybe little Caesar's).

Pizza hut the real OG when it comes to chains. They get f'ing pizza in they name yo

But that garlic butter sauce though!

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Re: June 2017 Waiters Thread- Dowsing for gray

Postby chargers21 » Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:37 pm

Walliums wrote:
chargers21 wrote:
Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:
My point was that if it's supported by people which it is then it's fine to restrict. I'm willing to bet that the people who are in gun restricted areas are totally fine with the restriction so "government oppression" isn't really a problem there since its acting in interest of people.


Your right to overthrow the government isn't violated by gov saying you can't take guns on college campuses.

Private colleges are free to restrict gun carrying as much as they like.

The constitution protects from the majority, so the majority wanting gun ownership limited doesn't make it constitutional.

Also, I will be living in a major city with strict gun control in the near future because that's where I will have to be to work, and I most certainly will not be okay living in a left wing fascist area that restricts my rights just as much as I don't currently like living in my right wing fascist state. We just need to legalize freedom


See, this right here is why I have trouble with libertarianism (not sure if you consider yourself a big or little l). In a perfect world, it would be nice to legalize "freedom" (or I am guessing you are referring to freedom to choose to do whatever you wish). But we don't live in a perfect world -- we live in one where people exercise their freedoms and infringe on others freedoms at the same time.

The only criminal acts should be those that directly harm another person's life, liberty, or property, with health included under this umbrella.



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