The Official September 2017 Study Group

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Are you ready for tomorrow?!?!?!

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Yeah, kind of
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Ehh, hoping for the best
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Not prepared but screw it
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HAHAHA I'M NOT EVEN TAKING THE LSAT, SUCKS FOR YOU GUYS
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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby sodomojo » Fri Aug 25, 2017 5:42 pm

pricon wrote:All the numerical value of the curve signifies is the flexibility of the test. By definition, the curve normalizes the difficulties between exams. However, a small curve means less flexibility. In other words, you are more likely to over- or under-perform, as opposed to getting right at your average, on a smaller curve than you are on a larger curve.

Which means statistically speaking if you had a -13 curve versus a -9, the latter was the easier exam in terms of raw score, right?

So what I'm curious about is if people have actually sensed that correlation from PT to PT, because based on 7Sage's ratings for various exams/sections, I'm not seeing much of a correlation.

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby pricon » Fri Aug 25, 2017 6:54 pm

Yes, that is correct.

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby Cogburn1984 » Fri Aug 25, 2017 8:26 pm

Took PT 79 the other day. Does anyone have a comprehensive understanding of S4, Q 22?

I think I have an inkling understanding of why C is right. Am I correct in identifying that an assumption of the argument is that the fragments of the virus will remain in the same place when passed down to through ancestors? This means the random insertion of the virus occurred with the descendant of these two species and then remained in place throughout the time it was passed down. The randomness of the insertion strengthens the argument because it show that the virus fragments being in the same spot would be highly unlikely unless the virus was acquired through a common ancestor?

Am I on or off base with that analysis?

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby Mikey » Fri Aug 25, 2017 8:51 pm

thinking of taking the next 2 or 3 days of doing RC drills until my eyes fucking bleed.

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby Barry grandpapy » Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:00 pm

Mikey wrote:thinking of taking the next 2 or 3 days of doing RC drills until my eyes fucking bleed.


This is how I imagine Hell

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby Mikey » Fri Aug 25, 2017 10:28 pm

Barry grandpapy wrote:
Mikey wrote:thinking of taking the next 2 or 3 days of doing RC drills until my eyes fucking bleed.


This is how I imagine Hell

YUP lol

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby lsataddict242 » Fri Aug 25, 2017 11:48 pm

Mikey wrote:
Barry grandpapy wrote:
Mikey wrote:thinking of taking the next 2 or 3 days of doing RC drills until my eyes fucking bleed.


This is how I imagine Hell

YUP lol


It can actually be fun if you try to enjoy what you are reading. I love RC because I learn so much when I do it. I go in with a mindset of reading for pleasure.

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby Barry grandpapy » Sat Aug 26, 2017 12:20 am

lsataddict242 wrote:It can actually be fun if you try to enjoy what you are reading. I love RC because I learn so much when I do it. I go in with a mindset of reading for pleasure.


You sit on a mountain of lies

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby abujabal » Sat Aug 26, 2017 12:29 am

Barry grandpapy wrote:
lsataddict242 wrote:It can actually be fun if you try to enjoy what you are reading. I love RC because I learn so much when I do it. I go in with a mindset of reading for pleasure.


You sit on a mountain of lies


RC is fun! The second passage in PT 73 was actually pretty amusing

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby Mikey » Sat Aug 26, 2017 12:55 am

What is wrong with u people

RC and fun should not be in the same sentence. Not even in the one I just wrote

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby Gluteus » Sat Aug 26, 2017 9:30 am

Off to the library for 8 hours.

Going to make sweet passionate love to the 10 LSATs from 62-71 book. Mostly focusing on RC.

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Postby Rupert Pupkin » Sat Aug 26, 2017 1:18 pm

Ive been PTing consistently in low 170s and my LR fluctuates the most. I go anywhere from -1 to -5. There is no eyeballing Q-type that I get wrong but some consistency. I dont think its so much of my understanding of that q-type is flawed( could be wrong), i just think its one of the ones I find tougher so when its a tough one in a section im thrown off by it. Although it seems to be I get wrong an Inference, Nec Ass, WKN (in that order from most apparent to least).Should I continue drilling by Q-type in between PTs or maybe sections or should I just keep hammering out PT's. One thing I have noticed is it may be a stamina issue.. My 1st LR is closer to the -1 and my 2nd LR is usually on avg -4 and I have been getting that as section 5 in my last few PTs.

Any advice on refining my LR performance?

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby saf18hornet » Sat Aug 26, 2017 1:39 pm

To go along with my hope for a tough LG section on this september test, i took PT 27 this morning. This is the one witht the famous snakes and lizards game.

LR1: -3
LG: -2, got all of snakes and lizards right but guessed wrong on the last 2 when I ran out of time :/
RC: -3
LR2: -3
Raw score of 90, for scaled score of 174. Blind review was -6, which is actually a 179. The curve is -16!

I can guess that most people probably wouldn't reach game 4 on test day and would struggle with snakes and lizards, but that curve is generous and I made a few stupid mistakes on the other sections.

Strongly recommend taking this test if you struggle at all with LG.

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby sabraph » Sat Aug 26, 2017 2:12 pm

I'm low key having a freakout. My PT today was 6 points below my previous PT average, and 8 below the low end of my goal score. I'm planning on applying this application cycle. If my September cycle doesn't cut it would the December test put me too far behind in terms of early apps (obviously it would not longer be considered early, but how significantly do you guys think that would affect outcomes). I'm a pretty average K-JD applicant.

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby AvatarMeelo » Sat Aug 26, 2017 2:24 pm

When the games in PT74 should have been easy but you ran out of time because you were debating the best strategy to tackle them :cry: :cry: :cry:

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby Rupert Pupkin » Sat Aug 26, 2017 2:43 pm

sabraph wrote:I'm low key having a freakout. My PT today was 6 points below my previous PT average, and 8 below the low end of my goal score. I'm planning on applying this application cycle. If my September cycle doesn't cut it would the December test put me too far behind in terms of early apps (obviously it would not longer be considered early, but how significantly do you guys think that would affect outcomes). I'm a pretty average K-JD applicant.


You wouldnt be applying early. You would be applying just-on-time. I am not too sure on how it would affect outcomes. I've heard people do just fine, and others not satisfied w/ their cycle applying again next fall.
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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby Ntp73821 » Sat Aug 26, 2017 4:52 pm

Finally back on my PT grind today after going through the Trainer and drilling post June test nightmare.

PT 75 , scored a 172

-2 LR1
-3 RC
-2 LR2
-1 LG

I guess reading comprehension worked out OK for me, but I was literally sweating while doing it. Also made a couple of intuitive guesses on LG... blegh, not a great day.
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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby AvatarMeelo » Sat Aug 26, 2017 5:10 pm

clueless801 wrote:When the games in PT74 should have been easy but you ran out of time because you were debating the best strategy to tackle them :cry: :cry: :cry:


Update: I'm an idiot that needs to slow down and read rules properly bc the last game should've been cake.

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby caramelizedgod » Sat Aug 26, 2017 7:57 pm

Strangest PT ever

PT 69

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LR: -6
LG: -0
RC: -2
LR: -10

Happy that my biggest problem, RC, is improving but now LR which I thought was p decent (avg -3) is now fluctuating like crazy.

Is LR considered to be much harder in the more recent PTs?
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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby saf18hornet » Sat Aug 26, 2017 7:59 pm

caramelizedgod wrote:Strangest PT ever

PT 69

LR: -6
LG: -0
RC: -2
LR: -10

Happy that my biggest problem, RC, is improving but now LR which I thought was p decent (avg -3) is now fluctuating like crazy.

Is LR considered to be much harder in the more recent PTs?


If it's an outlier, do your review, take a day off, and pretend it never happened. If I look at my last 20 Pts, I have one that is like 10 points lower than the rest, I think it was also PT 69. Sometimes the stars just align in a bad way

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby AvatarMeelo » Sat Aug 26, 2017 8:07 pm

Random idea of the day: got a free trial of YouTube Red to download 7sage LG videos so I could review them during my hour long commute to and from the library :) gonna try this on my way home tonight!

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby Lxwind » Sat Aug 26, 2017 8:42 pm

PT 61
170
RC -5
LR -0
LG -5
LR -1

Made a mistake when reading the conditions in the second last game, realized it and basically had to re-do that game..ran out of time and missed the last four questions in LG. Never happened before. Sincerely hope it is just an outlier. I really can't afford a -4 in LG.

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby Ntp73821 » Sat Aug 26, 2017 9:19 pm

caramelizedgod wrote:Strangest PT ever

PT 69

LR: -6
LG: -0
RC: -2
LR: -10

Happy that my biggest problem, RC, is improving but now LR which I thought was p decent (avg -3) is now fluctuating like crazy.

Is LR considered to be much harder in the more recent PTs?


I looked back to see what I got on that PT and I scored 3 points lower than my actual June LSAT and 6-7 points lower than my other most recent PTs. I think it was just a particularly tough test.
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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby Haburo » Sun Aug 27, 2017 9:01 am

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby Mikey » Sun Aug 27, 2017 11:18 am

no LSAT shit today because screw it why not do nothing today. I'm over this test and can't wait for the 16th to be here



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