The Official September 2017 Study Group

Prepare for the LSAT or discuss it with others in this forum.

Are you ready for tomorrow?!?!?!

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Yeah, kind of
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Ehh, hoping for the best
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HAHAHA I'M NOT EVEN TAKING THE LSAT, SUCKS FOR YOU GUYS
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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby mmart207 » Tue Jul 25, 2017 12:08 am

Man lol the 5th editions are like 2-3 times more expensive than the 4th editions so I'm stuck as to which to get. Might just suck it up and buy the 5ths :roll:

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby presidentspivey » Tue Jul 25, 2017 4:20 am

PT30
LG: -4
LR1: -4
RC: -1
LR2: -2
Experimental: LG set I put together through 7sage
Scaled Score: 173

My highest score ever! Very happy, even with the usual older test caveat and very generous curve. Back to back 170s. Yaaaaay. RC is especially encouraging considering how I struck out on the section multiple times last week. Hope everyone's seeing progress they're happy with. You can do it!

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby caramelizedgod » Tue Jul 25, 2017 5:35 am

jagerbom79 wrote:My LR is the 5th edition and My LR/RC is actually the 4th lol because I bought them a while before the LR book.


goddammit, peaky blinders is such a good show.

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby Barry grandpapy » Tue Jul 25, 2017 10:27 am

presidentspivey wrote:PT30

Scaled Score: 173

My highest score ever!


Cue the music!

[+] Spoiler

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby Mikey » Tue Jul 25, 2017 10:31 am

presidentspivey wrote:PT30
LG: -4
LR1: -4
RC: -1
LR2: -2
Experimental: LG set I put together through 7sage
Scaled Score: 173

My highest score ever! Very happy, even with the usual older test caveat and very generous curve. Back to back 170s. Yaaaaay. RC is especially encouraging considering how I struck out on the section multiple times last week. Hope everyone's seeing progress they're happy with. You can do it!

Good shit! That's excellent, keep it up!

-11 for a 173? that curve is beautiful :')

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby tapenade » Tue Jul 25, 2017 10:32 am

Couldn't stick to the timer on my LG drill. I hate studying after work, but it's so hard to find the time for drills or timed PTs.

Used the LG from PT 30: -3.

Just out of curiosity, has anyone heard of any credible predictions for the curve? Apparently this past June's test was an unusual -9, so some people are predicting a return to -10 or -11.

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby Rupert Pupkin » Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:44 am

caramelizedgod wrote:
jagerbom79 wrote:My LR is the 5th edition and My LR/RC is actually the 4th lol because I bought them a while before the LR book.


goddammit, peaky blinders is such a good show.


Yessss! I love it. Cannot wait for the new season to come out and hopefully sometime soon the movie

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby Rupert Pupkin » Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:44 am

Mikey wrote:
presidentspivey wrote:PT30
LG: -4
LR1: -4
RC: -1
LR2: -2
Experimental: LG set I put together through 7sage
Scaled Score: 173

My highest score ever! Very happy, even with the usual older test caveat and very generous curve. Back to back 170s. Yaaaaay. RC is especially encouraging considering how I struck out on the section multiple times last week. Hope everyone's seeing progress they're happy with. You can do it!

Good shit! That's excellent, keep it up!

-11 for a 173? that curve is beautiful :')


Awesome work man! That is a great curve. If you just got your LG down you would be murdering these 175+

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby presidentspivey » Tue Jul 25, 2017 12:27 pm

Barry grandpapy wrote:
presidentspivey wrote:PT30

Scaled Score: 173

My highest score ever!


Cue the music!

[+] Spoiler

I'm a very simple man. I see an Always Sunny video, I give a +180.

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby Aptony » Tue Jul 25, 2017 12:33 pm

Anyone know the best/cheapest place to buy prep tests?

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby mmart207 » Tue Jul 25, 2017 1:01 pm

Aptony wrote:Anyone know the best/cheapest place to buy prep tests?


Amazon. Online torrents if you're down for that as well.

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby sabraph » Tue Jul 25, 2017 4:59 pm

Mikey wrote:HOLY FUCK, I FINALLY BROKE A 170 ON A PT. Beyond excited right now, OMFG.

PT60: 170

LR: -3
LG: -0
LR: -5
RC: -3

Very unusual performance with LR, don't know where the -5 came from. This is the best I've ever done on RC :O
I know to a lot of people on here, a 170 is ehh but it's my first time breaking it so fuck off :mrgreen:


That's awesome fam! Congrats! What's your goal score?

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby Mikey » Tue Jul 25, 2017 5:25 pm

sabraph wrote:
Mikey wrote:HOLY FUCK, I FINALLY BROKE A 170 ON A PT. Beyond excited right now, OMFG.

PT60: 170

LR: -3
LG: -0
LR: -5
RC: -3

Very unusual performance with LR, don't know where the -5 came from. This is the best I've ever done on RC :O
I know to a lot of people on here, a 170 is ehh but it's my first time breaking it so fuck off :mrgreen:


That's awesome fam! Congrats! What's your goal score?

Around a 170. Thanks!

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby thepsychedelic » Tue Jul 25, 2017 6:44 pm

tapenade wrote:Couldn't stick to the timer on my LG drill. I hate studying after work, but it's so hard to find the time for drills or timed PTs.

Used the LG from PT 30: -3.

Just out of curiosity, has anyone heard of any credible predictions for the curve? Apparently this past June's test was an unusual -9, so some people are predicting a return to -10 or -11.


I don't think you can predict a curve before the test since I believe the curve is based off difficulty. However, on average since June 2005, the averages for the curve for each disclosed administration have been: June (-10.38), Sept/Oct (-11.08), and Dec (-12) for a combined average of about 11.15. Not that these numbers are in any way predictive, just thought it was interesting.
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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby dm1683 » Tue Jul 25, 2017 7:27 pm

Hey September crew, I have a situation I need advice on.

An acquaintance of mine texted me last week asking for my help with the LSAT (I kinda went overboard celebrating my score and now all these random people know lol). I agreed to tutor her and our first session was today. She was really nice and cool but she was really having trouble with it. She's taking a kaplan course and her diagnostic was 134, and her midpoint PT (what Kaplan uses to measure progress I guess) was even lower (like 132 or so). She has a 2.8 GPA and is shooting for the mid/high 150s and wants me to help her get there, but IDK what to do because her end goal is about where I started out (diag 160). It's obvious the kaplan course isn't helping her (even though she says it is) but I don't know if I can either because the methods and techniques I used to get from 160 to the mid 170s might not be useful to her.

I already convinced her to sit out the september test, informing her that a 20 point jump in a month and a half probably isn't achievable, but beyond that, what should I do? Would it be worth it to continue to tutor her given that we're on such different levels and I'm terrible at teaching things? I know some of you will be like "tell her not to go to law school" but I'm not a confrontational person and we have mutual friends that would make the situation awkward.

Any advice is appreciated guys. :wink:

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby presidentspivey » Tue Jul 25, 2017 7:45 pm

dm1683 wrote:Hey September crew, I have a situation I need advice on.

An acquaintance of mine texted me last week asking for my help with the LSAT (I kinda went overboard celebrating my score and now all these random people know lol). I agreed to tutor her and our first session was today. She was really nice and cool but she was really having trouble with it. She's taking a kaplan course and her diagnostic was 134, and her midpoint PT (what Kaplan uses to measure progress I guess) was even lower (like 132 or so). She has a 2.8 GPA and is shooting for the mid/high 150s and wants me to help her get there, but IDK what to do because her end goal is about where I started out (diag 160). It's obvious the kaplan course isn't helping her (even though she says it is) but I don't know if I can either because the methods and techniques I used to get from 160 to the mid 170s might not be useful to her.

I already convinced her to sit out the september test, informing her that a 20 point jump in a month and a half probably isn't achievable, but beyond that, what should I do? Would it be worth it to continue to tutor her given that we're on such different levels and I'm terrible at teaching things? I know some of you will be like "tell her not to go to law school" but I'm not a confrontational person and we have mutual friends that would make the situation awkward.

Any advice is appreciated guys. :wink:

You're right about the September test. She should probably start with LG. Literally anyone can make huge improvements on LG with enough time/grinding. That's bound to get her at least 15 points.

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby abujabal » Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:21 pm

dm1683 wrote:Hey September crew, I have a situation I need advice on.

An acquaintance of mine texted me last week asking for my help with the LSAT (I kinda went overboard celebrating my score and now all these random people know lol). I agreed to tutor her and our first session was today. She was really nice and cool but she was really having trouble with it. She's taking a kaplan course and her diagnostic was 134, and her midpoint PT (what Kaplan uses to measure progress I guess) was even lower (like 132 or so). She has a 2.8 GPA and is shooting for the mid/high 150s and wants me to help her get there, but IDK what to do because her end goal is about where I started out (diag 160). It's obvious the kaplan course isn't helping her (even though she says it is) but I don't know if I can either because the methods and techniques I used to get from 160 to the mid 170s might not be useful to her.

I already convinced her to sit out the september test, informing her that a 20 point jump in a month and a half probably isn't achievable, but beyond that, what should I do? Would it be worth it to continue to tutor her given that we're on such different levels and I'm terrible at teaching things? I know some of you will be like "tell her not to go to law school" but I'm not a confrontational person and we have mutual friends that would make the situation awkward.

Any advice is appreciated guys. :wink:


Agree with PresidentSpivey - LG is the easiest way to go. At that score, there's a higher chance that they're going to get a question wrong than they are right, so I'd think that even before strategies like stem first and the whatnot, there needs to be a thinking process realignment. Maybe it would be beneficial for them to do a section aloud - that is, untimed, and with you sitting next to them as they pretty much stream of conciousness say exactly what they're thinking and how they're approaching a question. As you take notes/record that, could be a great way to realize "oh, wait, you fundamentally understand what a flaw question is asking", or something like that.

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby Barry grandpapy » Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:50 pm

PT 60
LR1:-1
LG: -2
LR2:-0
RC: -0
179

Do you guys prefer your margaritas with or without salt? I'm a no salt guy.

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby Rupert Pupkin » Tue Jul 25, 2017 9:05 pm

Barry grandpapy wrote:PT 60
LR1:-1
LG: -2
LR2:-0
RC: -0
179

Do you guys prefer your margaritas with or without salt? I'm a no salt guy.


Haha you're a monster.and I love the salt.

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby Barry grandpapy » Tue Jul 25, 2017 9:31 pm

jagerbom79 wrote:Haha you're a monster.and I love the salt.


So do you lick the salt and then take a sip or sip with the salt and rotate your glass? These are the important questions.

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby chargers21 » Tue Jul 25, 2017 10:30 pm

Barry grandpapy wrote:
jagerbom79 wrote:Haha you're a monster.and I love the salt.


So do you lick the salt and then take a sip or sip with the salt and rotate your glass? These are the important questions.

I pour the salt straight into the marg

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby mmart207 » Tue Jul 25, 2017 10:55 pm

How long did it take you guys to read each of the Manhattan guides? I'm hoping now until the test date is enough time to read all 3? With time for practice tests as well?

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby Rupert Pupkin » Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:21 pm

Barry grandpapy wrote:
jagerbom79 wrote:Haha you're a monster.and I love the salt.


So do you lick the salt and then take a sip or sip with the salt and rotate your glass? These are the important questions.

Sip with the salt, for sure. Get a good lick

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