The Official September 2017 Study Group

Prepare for the LSAT or discuss it with others in this forum.

Are you ready for tomorrow?!?!?!

FUCK YES
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Yeah, kind of
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Ehh, hoping for the best
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HAHAHA I'M NOT EVEN TAKING THE LSAT, SUCKS FOR YOU GUYS
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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby augustyyy » Sat Jul 22, 2017 7:30 am

Question, which PTs (or period of PTs) do u consider have the most challenging RC? personally think are the 70s but I want to save them for later practice instead of drilling :oops: :oops:

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby HesusChrist » Sat Jul 22, 2017 8:40 am

augustyyy wrote:Question, which PTs (or period of PTs) do u consider have the most challenging RC? personally think are the 70s but I want to save them for later practice instead of drilling :oops: :oops:


Yea, some think that the RC has gotten more difficult in the 70s, but I have not noticed my scores decrease. It's a good idea to save them for PTs though. Plenty of difficult passage in older tests.

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby Rupert Pupkin » Sat Jul 22, 2017 12:13 pm

CottonHarvest wrote:
littlewing67 wrote:
ugatvandy wrote:Hey, do any of y'all have suggestion of PT performance tracker that allow you to track both your actual score and BR? Having a hard time finding a good one


Not sure if you checked it out but 7Sage analytics is free and pretty good. It allows you to put in your regular score and BR score.

7sage is awesome. I have two accounts. One for just full length PTs and one that also has all of the tests I've done as sections and experimentals as well.


Just starting to use 7sage analytics so please excuse my ignorance...

Why can't you just book your PT scores and sections on one account? For example, Why couldn't i just book my LR score on PT 7 and then my PT score on PT63 (if that were the case) as long as I knew which tests were PTs and which ones I used to drill? Are you doing this because its easier for you to remember which one you drilled and PT'd or is there another reason beyond this? For me, I remember because pre PT50 is pretty much drilling for me and after that is PT

edit: ahh is it because it shows your average PT score and the drilling will mess that up or inflate it?

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby Rupert Pupkin » Sat Jul 22, 2017 12:16 pm

For people w/ Cambridge Packs --

Did you guys utilize these for RC at all or just drill RC sections?

I was thinking to mainly do RC sections, but for me Natural Sciences is my weakest point so my strategy was just going to drill these passage types concurrently

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby littlewing67 » Sat Jul 22, 2017 12:59 pm

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby Rupert Pupkin » Sat Jul 22, 2017 1:47 pm

littlewing67 wrote:
jagerbom79 wrote:For people w/ Cambridge Packs --

Did you guys utilize these for RC at all or just drill RC sections?

I was thinking to mainly do RC sections, but for me Natural Sciences is my weakest point so my strategy was just going to drill these passage types concurrently


That's really funny, I have been thinking about that, and especially after this past week when I started PTing, I realized I focused way too much attention on drilling individual questions/passages vs. sections and I think there is a weakness in doing that especially for RC and LG to an extent because full sections have 4 passages that are meant to be done within that time frame some being shorter/longer than others and with varying difficulty levels. The packets go from "easy" to "hard" and there's like ~38 in each packet, so you don't get that much of a variety, and sticking with an 8.45 time frame is a little rigid. It is nice to handle science passages, per say, and drill them with the packet, but overall, I think they lack the section structure. I am thinking of just printing out the RC sections from 1-38, and doing them as sections, even though I have done about ~10 passages from each packet.

But that is my personal take on it, and RC is obviously not my selling point, so take it with a grain of salt.

Edit: also I just thought of something. Take 4 RC Science passages from the packet from each level of difficulty since there are 4 levels and make them into a whole science RC section and attempt to do them as a regular section.


I feel the same... Its completely different doing a full section.

And to the bolded: That would be INTENSE. Talk about a way to force yourself to get comfortable with your weakness.. I might try that

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby somebodyelse » Sat Jul 22, 2017 3:26 pm

PT66

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LR: -2/-0
LG: -2
RC: -5

I've been missing a few easy LG each test lately, primarily due to running short on time. And still need to work on bringing down RC. I feel slightly better about the RC because I had to do back to back RC with experimental first and I only missed 1 with the experimental (PT37 RC). So maybe just some fatigue there, which hopefully can be alleviated with PTing and drills.

The plan moving forward is to continue to drill areas of LR, I'm thinking about drilling a section of LG per day mixing together 1-35 + PTs I've already taken and I guess continue to work through RC.

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby caramelizedgod » Sat Jul 22, 2017 3:33 pm

Barry grandpapy wrote:
Anon-e-miss wrote:
Barry grandpapy wrote:PT 50
RC: -4
LR1: -0
LG: -0
LR2: -0
177

It's 100 fu#$ing degrees outside, but Chipotle is worth it.

Are you retaking or will be september be your first attempt?


I'm retaking. I took it last fall.


Sounds like ur gonna kill it, where r u applying/wanting to go to if I may ask?

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby CottonHarvest » Sat Jul 22, 2017 3:39 pm

jagerbom79 wrote:
CottonHarvest wrote:
littlewing67 wrote:
ugatvandy wrote:Hey, do any of y'all have suggestion of PT performance tracker that allow you to track both your actual score and BR? Having a hard time finding a good one


Not sure if you checked it out but 7Sage analytics is free and pretty good. It allows you to put in your regular score and BR score.

7sage is awesome. I have two accounts. One for just full length PTs and one that also has all of the tests I've done as sections and experimentals as well.


Just starting to use 7sage analytics so please excuse my ignorance...

Why can't you just book your PT scores and sections on one account? For example, Why couldn't i just book my LR score on PT 7 and then my PT score on PT63 (if that were the case) as long as I knew which tests were PTs and which ones I used to drill? Are you doing this because its easier for you to remember which one you drilled and PT'd or is there another reason beyond this? For me, I remember because pre PT50 is pretty much drilling for me and after that is PT

edit: ahh is it because it shows your average PT score and the drilling will mess that up or inflate it?

Yes, exactly.

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby Rupert Pupkin » Sat Jul 22, 2017 4:21 pm

CottonHarvest wrote:
jagerbom79 wrote:
CottonHarvest wrote:
littlewing67 wrote:
ugatvandy wrote:Hey, do any of y'all have suggestion of PT performance tracker that allow you to track both your actual score and BR? Having a hard time finding a good one


Not sure if you checked it out but 7Sage analytics is free and pretty good. It allows you to put in your regular score and BR score.

7sage is awesome. I have two accounts. One for just full length PTs and one that also has all of the tests I've done as sections and experimentals as well.


Just starting to use 7sage analytics so please excuse my ignorance...

Why can't you just book your PT scores and sections on one account? For example, Why couldn't i just book my LR score on PT 7 and then my PT score on PT63 (if that were the case) as long as I knew which tests were PTs and which ones I used to drill? Are you doing this because its easier for you to remember which one you drilled and PT'd or is there another reason beyond this? For me, I remember because pre PT50 is pretty much drilling for me and after that is PT

edit: ahh is it because it shows your average PT score and the drilling will mess that up or inflate it?

Yes, exactly.

Okay, thought so (only after I typed out my message HA)

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby sabraph » Sat Jul 22, 2017 4:31 pm

PT 53
LR: 23
LG: 22
LR: 23
RC: 23
-172

I finally hit the upper end of my goal score! Debating setting a new target score, or just practicing to get consistent - thoughts? Although, I completely messed up the school/places game at first and had to redo the diagram, my brain translated "places higher" as "oh they're in 2nd or 3rd placed because those numbers are greater" *facepalm*

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby abujabal » Sat Jul 22, 2017 4:35 pm

sabraph wrote:PT 53
LR: 23
LG: 22
LR: 23
RC: 23
-172

I finally hit the upper end of my goal score! Debating setting a new target score, or just practicing to get consistent - thoughts? Although, I completely messed up the school/places game at first and had to redo the diagram, my brain translated "places higher" as "oh they're in 2nd or 3rd placed because those numbers are greater" *facepalm*


Make your new upper end goal score 180! Great PT score, congrats!

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby creed » Sat Jul 22, 2017 4:46 pm

Dunkirk was great. Anyone else have a chance to see it yet?

Time to drill some assumption questions and grouping sets.

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby abujabal » Sat Jul 22, 2017 5:04 pm

creed wrote:Dunkirk was great. Anyone else have a chance to see it yet?

Time to drill some assumption questions and grouping sets.


Looking forward to it - glad it's living up to the hype. Wish they were more accurate with their casting, but that's hollywood I guess.

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Postby Barry grandpapy » Sat Jul 22, 2017 5:09 pm

caramelizedgod wrote:Sounds like ur gonna kill it, where r u applying/wanting to go to if I may ask?


I want to blanket the t14, except for GULC. I don't have a geographical preference, other than the fact that I hated living in DC and don't plan on ever returning.

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Postby dm1683 » Sat Jul 22, 2017 6:48 pm

creed wrote:Dunkirk was great. Anyone else have a chance to see it yet?

Time to drill some assumption questions and grouping sets.

I went to see that valerian movie. It was ok. Special effects were awesome. Also cara delevingne is gorgeous AF but she should not act.

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby mnbv9876 » Sat Jul 22, 2017 7:29 pm

lol guys i was scoring 169 average over 4 full practice tests,

and now in my last two I scored 160 and 162. Has this happened to anyone else??? why ???

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby Rupert Pupkin » Sat Jul 22, 2017 7:42 pm

creed wrote:Dunkirk was great. Anyone else have a chance to see it yet?

Time to drill some assumption questions and grouping sets.


I've been dying to see it! I want to make some time tomorrow to go see it

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Postby abujabal » Sat Jul 22, 2017 8:18 pm

mnbv9876 wrote:lol guys i was scoring 169 average over 4 full practice tests,

and now in my last two I scored 160 and 162. Has this happened to anyone else??? why ???


Me literally a week ago. Take a two day break, diagnose what went wrong, and get back into it. Sometimes your brain just doesn't cooperate

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Postby Rupert Pupkin » Sat Jul 22, 2017 9:37 pm

Are there any good sources that breakdown RC passages like 7Sage LG Videos or MH Forum for LR?

More broadly speaking, How do you guys review RC? I've been killing RC (-2 just now, but -3/4 on avg), but Im trying to figure out what I can improve on or if there are some systematic things in various passages that I missed and just lucked out on with the questions

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby mnbv9876 » Sat Jul 22, 2017 11:57 pm

abujabal wrote:
mnbv9876 wrote:lol guys i was scoring 169 average over 4 full practice tests,

Me literally a week ago. Take a two day break, diagnose what went wrong, and get back into it. Sometimes your brain just doesn't cooperate


Platopus wrote:Don't panic, I was PTin'g around 173-174 and hit a 166 like three weeks before the June test, but ended up doing just fine on the real thing. The low score shook me up for a couple PT's, but I ended up doing just fine on the real thing. Bad tests happen, shake it off :D


thank you for the support :) you all are awesome. will try to minimize panic lol. ugh

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby Rupert Pupkin » Sun Jul 23, 2017 12:37 am

Platopus wrote:
jagerbom79 wrote:Are there any good sources that breakdown RC passages like 7Sage LG Videos or MH Forum for LR?

More broadly speaking, How do you guys review RC? I've been killing RC (-2 just now, but -3/4 on avg), but Im trying to figure out what I can improve on or if there are some systematic things in various passages that I missed and just lucked out on with the questions


I don't have any recommendation for specific resources, but I managed to keep my RC consistently around -2 by sticking with an approach that worked. Contrary to some advice, I went real slow through the passage and did no notation and it worked for me. Once I keep consistent in this approach, I noticed my scores tend to stabilize too. If somethings working for you (which it sounds like it is), don't change it. I think the key is to stick with an approach to RC for 3-4 PT's so you gain some confidence and feel more relaxed. At least personally, 2nd guessing my approach to the section, and even to particular questions lead to a decrease in my performance.


Thanks for the advice. That is essentially what im doing and its mostly not systematic. I just read carefully, underline and Highlight things that stick out to me, notate for structure and then answer the questions. It seems to work and is most natural. Now as im beginning to get into the PT phase Ill watch out for trends, but as a retaker and tyring a couple things i think Im going to stick to this track.



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