Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group
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Yeah, shocks me too. I wonder why some schools favour high GPAs over LSATs, when high LSATs are much rarer and standardised.Alexandros wrote:It always shocks me how high GPAs are, especially relative to LSAT, at most law schools.oopsu812 wrote:Didn't realise it was so low compared to the rest of the T6. Man, I should just start getting myself excited for CLS honestly. Seems like that's where I'll end up.Alexandros wrote:3.81.oopsu812 wrote:Keep it up and enjoy your Hammy, mate. What is the 75th?Alexandros wrote:GPA has officially exceeded CLS's 75th.
In b4 I get a D in the class that hasn't been updated.
I'm officially jinxing it by making premature announcements, will fail all courses next yr and graduate with 2.0.
And nah, I think you'll maintain that just fine.
Yeah, I've noticed that with Columbia too. 120k from Michigan would be no good to me though because I wouldn't be covered by their LRAP. I'd imagine I'd be better off taking on a bit more debt so that I would be covered. I'm not sure though, haven't crunched any numbers yet.Alexandros wrote:It was a lot easier for me to get a 170+ LSAT than even a 3.7 GPA. It surprises me that there are so many applicants with such a high GPAs and lower LSATs.oopsu812 wrote:Yeah, shocks me too. I wonder why some schools favour high GPAs over LSATs, when high LSATs are much rarer and standardised.Alexandros wrote:It always shocks me how high GPAs are, especially relative to LSAT, at most law schools.oopsu812 wrote:Didn't realise it was so low compared to the rest of the T6. Man, I should just start getting myself excited for CLS honestly. Seems like that's where I'll end up.Alexandros wrote:3.81.oopsu812 wrote:Keep it up and enjoy your Hammy, mate. What is the 75th?Alexandros wrote:GPA has officially exceeded CLS's 75th.
In b4 I get a D in the class that hasn't been updated.
I'm officially jinxing it by making premature announcements, will fail all courses next yr and graduate with 2.0.
And nah, I think you'll maintain that just fine.
Also the thing about CLS is they don't give much $$ out between Butler and Hammy. Whereas a school like Mich gives out 120k and 150k out fairly frequently if you miss the big named full-ride.
I thought you were planning on BL?oopsu812 wrote:Yeah, I've noticed that with Columbia too. 120k from Michigan would be no good to me though because I wouldn't be covered by their LRAP. I'd imagine I'd be better off taking on a bit more debt so that I would be covered. I'm not sure though, haven't crunched any numbers yet.Alexandros wrote:It was a lot easier for me to get a 170+ LSAT than even a 3.7 GPA. It surprises me that there are so many applicants with such a high GPAs and lower LSATs.oopsu812 wrote:Yeah, shocks me too. I wonder why some schools favour high GPAs over LSATs, when high LSATs are much rarer and standardised.Alexandros wrote:It always shocks me how high GPAs are, especially relative to LSAT, at most law schools.oopsu812 wrote:Didn't realise it was so low compared to the rest of the T6. Man, I should just start getting myself excited for CLS honestly. Seems like that's where I'll end up.Alexandros wrote:3.81.oopsu812 wrote: Keep it up and enjoy your Hammy, mate. What is the 75th?
I'm officially jinxing it by making premature announcements, will fail all courses next yr and graduate with 2.0.
And nah, I think you'll maintain that just fine.
Also the thing about CLS is they don't give much $$ out between Butler and Hammy. Whereas a school like Mich gives out 120k and 150k out fairly frequently if you miss the big named full-ride.
Sure, I wouldn't mind doing a couple of years to accumulate savings and pay off some debt if I knew I could go into PI after. I'd just be worried about being forced by debt to stay in BL for so long that the PI ship sails. Also, things change. Taking on lots of debt somewhere where I don't qualify for LRAP means I'm absolutely forced to go into BL, no matter what. Am I comfortable with that? Not sure. I'm talking like, 120k at Michigan vs. Butler at Columbia type difference here though, not sticker.Alexandros wrote:I thought you were planning on BL?oopsu812 wrote:Yeah, I've noticed that with Columbia too. 120k from Michigan would be no good to me though because I wouldn't be covered by their LRAP. I'd imagine I'd be better off taking on a bit more debt so that I would be covered. I'm not sure though, haven't crunched any numbers yet.Alexandros wrote: It was a lot easier for me to get a 170+ LSAT than even a 3.7 GPA. It surprises me that there are so many applicants with such a high GPAs and lower LSATs.
Also the thing about CLS is they don't give much $$ out between Butler and Hammy. Whereas a school like Mich gives out 120k and 150k out fairly frequently if you miss the big named full-ride.
Go to a salon dude. Best advice my mom ever gave me. I get a free facial (dont judge.. relaxing AF.. cant knock it till you try it), scalp massage, hot lather neck shave with a straight edge and they always do a good job. They're all super young so they know the trends of our generation, and usually they're not too bad looking either (added bonus). I usually spend around 40 after a tip. Worth every penny, ill never go back to a regular barber again.dj9i27 wrote:I paid $15 and I thought I was getting ripped off. y so expenseAlexandros wrote:I can't remember the last time I went to one - I think I was like 17? Iirc they left me sitting there for 45 minutes, barely did anything, and charged me $60. I just cut it myself. Looks bad but not as bad as when they do it.oopsu812 wrote:I have trust issues with hairdressers. While I was abroad I refused to get my hair done, but this week I have an appointment with a new hairdresser, and I'm hoping she'll be my go to in the future. Pray 4 me.dj9i27 wrote:I have one that I've been going to for 20+ years, shes the only one I trust at this point. Too bad the store is 2 hours away :/Alexandros wrote: Oh noez.
Barbers can't be trusted.
I'm going to have either a plane cost or severe anxiety during OCI or 1oL pictures
Same on CLS oopus. Agreed on the high GPA thing. Take a look at this regional T1's 75thsAlexandros wrote:It always shocks me how high GPAs are, especially relative to LSAT, at most law schools.oopsu812 wrote:Didn't realise it was so low compared to the rest of the T6. Man, I should just start getting myself excited for CLS honestly. Seems like that's where I'll end up.Alexandros wrote:3.81.oopsu812 wrote:Keep it up and enjoy your Hammy, mate. What is the 75th?Alexandros wrote:GPA has officially exceeded CLS's 75th.
In b4 I get a D in the class that hasn't been updated.
I'm officially jinxing it by making premature announcements, will fail all courses next yr and graduate with 2.0.
And nah, I think you'll maintain that just fine.
All that said, I'm hoping I'll end up with The Great stats and it won't matter anyways.Alexandros wrote:That makes sense.oopsu812 wrote:Sure, I wouldn't mind doing a couple of years to accumulate savings and pay off some debt if I knew I could go into PI after. I'd just be worried about being forced by debt to stay in BL for so long that the PI ship sails. Also, things change. Taking on lots of debt somewhere where I don't qualify for LRAP means I'm absolutely forced to go into BL, no matter what. Am I comfortable with that? Not sure. I'm talking like, 120k at Michigan vs. Butler at Columbia type difference here though, not sticker.Alexandros wrote:I thought you were planning on BL?oopsu812 wrote:Yeah, I've noticed that with Columbia too. 120k from Michigan would be no good to me though because I wouldn't be covered by their LRAP. I'd imagine I'd be better off taking on a bit more debt so that I would be covered. I'm not sure though, haven't crunched any numbers yet.Alexandros wrote: It was a lot easier for me to get a 170+ LSAT than even a 3.7 GPA. It surprises me that there are so many applicants with such a high GPAs and lower LSATs.
Also the thing about CLS is they don't give much $$ out between Butler and Hammy. Whereas a school like Mich gives out 120k and 150k out fairly frequently if you miss the big named full-ride.
except me... But I guess I was capable. I averaged a 170 on PTs (basically all 169, 170, and 171s) and scored a random 174 once. Fell short on test day, but I guess I was capable and got results that were acceptable enough for my goals. If I was allowed a 4th take for the June test, no doubt I would have hit 170.presidentspivey wrote: Same on CLS oopus. Agreed on the high GPA thing. Take a look at this regional T1's 75ths
https://www.law.asu.edu/about/jd-facts-figures
3.80/163. I think the vast majority of students who get a 3.8 and are serious about law school are capable of getting a 170+. But I imagine a lot of these people treat the LSAT like the SAT/ACT. Maybe buy one book and take the June 2007 test and call it a day.
I think I'm going to from now on, buy it nice or buy it twice (or in my case wait 1.5 months until normal). Thank Christ there aren't any interviews, otherwise they'd be asking me about my involvement with the alt-rightTWiiX wrote:Go to a salon dude. Best advice my mom ever gave me. I get a free facial (dont judge.. relaxing AF.. cant knock it till you try it), scalp massage, hot lather neck shave with a straight edge and they always do a good job. They're all super young so they know the trends of our generation, and usually they're not too bad looking either (added bonus). I usually spend around 40 after a tip. Worth every penny, ill never go back to a regular barber again.dj9i27 wrote:I paid $15 and I thought I was getting ripped off. y so expenseAlexandros wrote:I can't remember the last time I went to one - I think I was like 17? Iirc they left me sitting there for 45 minutes, barely did anything, and charged me $60. I just cut it myself. Looks bad but not as bad as when they do it.oopsu812 wrote:I have trust issues with hairdressers. While I was abroad I refused to get my hair done, but this week I have an appointment with a new hairdresser, and I'm hoping she'll be my go to in the future. Pray 4 me.dj9i27 wrote:I have one that I've been going to for 20+ years, shes the only one I trust at this point. Too bad the store is 2 hours away :/Alexandros wrote: Oh noez.
Barbers can't be trusted.
I'm going to have either a plane cost or severe anxiety during OCI or 1oL pictures
You ended up with a great outcome though, and it sounds like you left everything on the field with the test. No need to feel bad!chargers21 wrote:except me... But I guess I was capable. I averaged a 170 on PTs (basically all 169, 170, and 171s) and scored a random 174 once. Fell short on test day, but I guess I was capable and got results that were acceptable enough for my goals. If I was allowed a 4th take for the June test, no doubt I would have hit 170.presidentspivey wrote: Same on CLS oopus. Agreed on the high GPA thing. Take a look at this regional T1's 75ths
https://www.law.asu.edu/about/jd-facts-figures
3.80/163. I think the vast majority of students who get a 3.8 and are serious about law school are capable of getting a 170+. But I imagine a lot of these people treat the LSAT like the SAT/ACT. Maybe buy one book and take the June 2007 test and call it a day.
I'm so sorry.dj9i27 wrote:I think I'm going to from now on, buy it nice or buy it twice (or in my case wait 1.5 months until normal). Thank Christ there aren't any interviews, otherwise they'd be asking me about my involvement with the alt-rightTWiiX wrote:Go to a salon dude. Best advice my mom ever gave me. I get a free facial (dont judge.. relaxing AF.. cant knock it till you try it), scalp massage, hot lather neck shave with a straight edge and they always do a good job. They're all super young so they know the trends of our generation, and usually they're not too bad looking either (added bonus). I usually spend around 40 after a tip. Worth every penny, ill never go back to a regular barber again.dj9i27 wrote:I paid $15 and I thought I was getting ripped off. y so expenseAlexandros wrote:I can't remember the last time I went to one - I think I was like 17? Iirc they left me sitting there for 45 minutes, barely did anything, and charged me $60. I just cut it myself. Looks bad but not as bad as when they do it.oopsu812 wrote:I have trust issues with hairdressers. While I was abroad I refused to get my hair done, but this week I have an appointment with a new hairdresser, and I'm hoping she'll be my go to in the future. Pray 4 me.dj9i27 wrote:I have one that I've been going to for 20+ years, shes the only one I trust at this point. Too bad the store is 2 hours away :/Alexandros wrote: Oh noez.
Barbers can't be trusted.
I'm going to have either a plane cost or severe anxiety during OCI or 1oL pictures
Yeah, realistically it only cost me about 30k (lulz still a lot, but not not worth 2 years sitting out) or going to Harvard. I love Duke and it was really only second to Harvard for what I want dopresidentspivey wrote:You ended up with a great outcome though, and it sounds like you left everything on the field with the test. No need to feel bad!chargers21 wrote:except me... But I guess I was capable. I averaged a 170 on PTs (basically all 169, 170, and 171s) and scored a random 174 once. Fell short on test day, but I guess I was capable and got results that were acceptable enough for my goals. If I was allowed a 4th take for the June test, no doubt I would have hit 170.presidentspivey wrote: Same on CLS oopus. Agreed on the high GPA thing. Take a look at this regional T1's 75ths
https://www.law.asu.edu/about/jd-facts-figures
3.80/163. I think the vast majority of students who get a 3.8 and are serious about law school are capable of getting a 170+. But I imagine a lot of these people treat the LSAT like the SAT/ACT. Maybe buy one book and take the June 2007 test and call it a day.
I think I will look like a people again this time next week; when I have to talk to my old professors lol.Alexandros wrote: I'm so sorry.
Might just try since I'm a urm.Alexandros wrote:I'm just gonna forget about S because it's not happening.
Good luck, my friend.dj9i27 wrote:I think I will look like a people again this time next week; when I have to talk to my old professors lol.Alexandros wrote: I'm so sorry.
My stubble is integrated with my sideburns, I don't know where to shave.
Just stay away from CNPrezRand wrote:Might just try since I'm a urm.Alexandros wrote:I'm just gonna forget about S because it's not happening.
My list right now is: Uva, Duke, UT, GT, Vandy, SMU, WUSTL, and UH. I might apply to cornell H, and S
*Prayer hands*Alexandros wrote:Prediction: H's 25th percentile GPA will plummet.
If it tanks too bad they may try to overcorrect the next few cycles to bring it back up...jagerbom79 wrote:*Prayer hands*Alexandros wrote:Prediction: H's 25th percentile GPA will plummet.
My guess is they'll still care about LSAT median a lot more than GPA 25th. They won't bring the GPA 25th back up at the expense of the LSAT median.TWiiX wrote:If it tanks too bad they may try to overcorrect the next few cycles to bring it back up...jagerbom79 wrote:*Prayer hands*Alexandros wrote:Prediction: H's 25th percentile GPA will plummet.