The Official September 2017 Study Group

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Ehh, hoping for the best
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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby twiix » Wed May 17, 2017 3:18 pm

ngogirl12 wrote:
TWiiX wrote:
Mikey wrote:
PrezRand wrote:Is the 7sage package like a class?

kind of. it's just pre-recorded videos of every question on the LSAT but regarding the curriculum, they put apart question types and stuff and do lessons on it then do questions to show you how you should approach them


Yeah, self guided class I would say. They have a ton of "chapters", each chapter being a different skill on the test. Some are underlying abilities like logic and grammar comprehension (they do the best job of anywhere explaining necessary and sufficient conditions, how to analyze them, and how to use them). They also have lessons for each question type in LR, where they give you an example problem, explain the underlying comprehension required to understand it, and strategies on how to solve it. Then they have practice problems, quizzes, flashcards, etc to supplement the curriculum.

It's honestly incredibly useful.


So true. I'm actually redoing the curriculum a second time along with drilling and find that concepts I had learned the first time around but was unsure of in practice are now being ingrained in my head.

Also, redrilling the flashcards and reviewing the drills is EXTREMELY helpful. I highly recommend 7Sage :)


Piggy backing off of her post... I want to emphasize to the new guys that you should TAKE YOUR TIME the first time through the curriculum. I rushed through the first time, as well as numerous others on here and on 7sage. You will be tricked into thinking you've learned certain things and will skip through the videos or skip problem sets, only to realize that a few weeks down the line you have a huge weakness in a given area. It's ineffective to skip through the first time, because you end up spending twice as much time revisiting as you would if you had just sat through it and mastered it the first time.

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Postby oopsu812 » Wed May 17, 2017 3:20 pm

So do you guys think that 7sage is miles ahead of simply using MH books, 7sage LG videos, and every PT?

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Postby Mikey » Wed May 17, 2017 3:21 pm

TWiiX wrote:you should TAKE YOUR TIME the first time through the curriculum.

Is this a subtle jab directed to me? I will fite u kid!!! :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea:

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby Mikey » Wed May 17, 2017 3:22 pm

oopsu812 wrote:So do you guys think that 7sage is miles ahead of simply using MH books, 7sage LG videos, and every PT?

well, the 7sage curriculum can be enough by itself to help you do well, imo.. you still need PTs though

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby Alexandros » Wed May 17, 2017 3:28 pm

oopsu812 wrote:So do you guys think that 7sage is miles ahead of simply using MH books, 7sage LG videos, and every PT?

No.

There is no silver bullet to this test. That's the only method that's going to work is learning the concepts and spending hours on hours for months practicing real LSAT questions.

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Postby oopsu812 » Wed May 17, 2017 3:32 pm

Alexandros wrote:
oopsu812 wrote:So do you guys think that 7sage is miles ahead of simply using MH books, 7sage LG videos, and every PT?

No.

There is no silver bullet to this test. That's the only method that's going to work is learning the concepts and spending hours on hours for months practicing real LSAT questions.

Of course, but some materials teach concepts better than others. Just asking how people felt about 7sage vs. books. :wink:

Just to clarify, I meant 7sage + PTs vs. books + PTs. Just realized my original comment read differently.

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby twiix » Wed May 17, 2017 3:45 pm

oopsu812 wrote:
Alexandros wrote:
oopsu812 wrote:So do you guys think that 7sage is miles ahead of simply using MH books, 7sage LG videos, and every PT?

No.

There is no silver bullet to this test. That's the only method that's going to work is learning the concepts and spending hours on hours for months practicing real LSAT questions.

Of course, but some materials teach concepts better than others. Just asking how people felt about 7sage vs. books. :wink:

Just to clarify, I meant 7sage + PTs vs. books + PTs. Just realized my original comment read differently.


From what I've heard (and this is me speculating), some of the other books will teach you ways to game the test more or less. Other places will teach you tricks and tips to getting the right answer, while 7sage teaches you to comprehend and understand, so that you can arrive to those tips and tricks on your own. The fundamental approach resonates well with me, because that feels like a truer sense of “mastering” the material, which should be more flexible if you get a never before seen question when you are sitting for the test.

The other benefit to 7sage is that it is constantly being updated. If you buy a book, you don’t get the new revisions for free. Whereas the website, once you pay, you have access to whatever falls into your given price package. Even with the starter account, you get the full curriculum, so as new material is released, you still get those updates without paying more.

I also agree with Alex though, there is no “one size fits all” approach to LSAT studying. Some people will do better with the books and some people will do better with 7sage. It just comes down to personal preference.

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dj9i27 wrote:http://lawschoolnumbers.com/Dxgriffin

decide plz


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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby twiix » Wed May 17, 2017 3:54 pm

dj9i27 wrote:http://lawschoolnumbers.com/Dxgriffin

decide plz


on topic, at 3.2, i hope they view my 2.7 in the same realm of shiTTTy GPA's and I can pull that kind of money from even the bottom half of the T13. I'm not greedy.. I don't even WANT hysccn

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Postby dj9i27 » Wed May 17, 2017 3:58 pm

TWiiX wrote:
dj9i27 wrote:http://lawschoolnumbers.com/Dxgriffin

decide plz


on topic, at 3.2, i hope they view my 2.7 in the same realm of shiTTTy GPA's and I can pull that kind of money from even the bottom half of the T13. I'm not greedy.. I don't even WANT hysccn

34 laid out a good ranking
3.4-3.5 Are about the same
3.2-3.4ish
3.0-3 2
and. sub 3.0

you've got we so you are separated from your GPA. I just wish you could spam CC classes to boost your gpa. if this is the next revelation I'm taking 2 years off and doing CC classes

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby Mikey » Wed May 17, 2017 4:08 pm

hey LSAC, if you're seeing this, can you make the September 2017 LSAT have all sequencing games? I cannot do them and they are the toughest things in the world and I would really like you to challenge me on test day. So please give us (U.S. takers--disclosed) all 4 sequencing games :)

thanks<3

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Postby dj9i27 » Wed May 17, 2017 4:09 pm

Mikey wrote:hey LSAC, if you're seeing this, can you make the September 2017 LSAT have all sequencing games? I cannot do them and they are the toughest things in the world and I would really like you to challenge me on test day. So please give us (U.S. takers--disclosed) all 4 sequencing games :)

thanks<3

Orrrrr... 5 sections of baby level grouping?

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby Mikey » Wed May 17, 2017 4:11 pm

dj9i27 wrote:
Mikey wrote:hey LSAC, if you're seeing this, can you make the September 2017 LSAT have all sequencing games? I cannot do them and they are the toughest things in the world and I would really like you to challenge me on test day. So please give us (U.S. takers--disclosed) all 4 sequencing games :)

thanks<3

Orrrrr... 5 sections of baby level grouping?

or 5 sections of just sequencing games...

imagine.... lol I'd finish each section so early that I'd get a few good power naps in
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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby Alexandros » Wed May 17, 2017 4:11 pm

oopsu812 wrote:
Alexandros wrote:
oopsu812 wrote:So do you guys think that 7sage is miles ahead of simply using MH books, 7sage LG videos, and every PT?

No.

There is no silver bullet to this test. That's the only method that's going to work is learning the concepts and spending hours on hours for months practicing real LSAT questions.

Of course, but some materials teach concepts better than others. Just asking how people felt about 7sage vs. books. :wink:

Just to clarify, I meant 7sage + PTs vs. books + PTs. Just realized my original comment read differently.

I dunno - To be fair, I can't really speak to 7sage because I didn't use it other than sometimes the free LG videos. But neither me nor our late illustrious leader (and some of the other high scorers in the Sept 2016 group) used 7sage and I don't think we struggled for it. I do think books were a better option for me because, as I said, videos and online activities don't really work for me and I much prefer to read and work on paper.

If you want to and can afford to spend $700 or whatever it costs, then go for it but it's not necessary, and imo the "learning concepts" part of LSAT prep is very marginal compared to practice, so I doubt 7sage would give much of an advantage over books. It's definitely not "miles ahead."

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby chewinggum » Wed May 17, 2017 4:11 pm

Mikey wrote:hey LSAC, if you're seeing this, can you make the September 2017 LSAT have all sequencing games? I cannot do them and they are the toughest things in the world and I would really like you to challenge me on test day. So please give us (U.S. takers--disclosed) all 4 sequencing games :)

thanks<3

Sequencing happens to be my best. So LSAC, yes, please take Mikey's apparent sarcasm and my splitter desperation into consideration.

thnxsomuchforthehalp.

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Postby Mikey » Wed May 17, 2017 4:13 pm

chewinggum wrote:
Mikey wrote:hey LSAC, if you're seeing this, can you make the September 2017 LSAT have all sequencing games? I cannot do them and they are the toughest things in the world and I would really like you to challenge me on test day. So please give us (U.S. takers--disclosed) all 4 sequencing games :)

thanks<3

Sequencing happens to be my best. So LSAC, yes, please take Mikey's apparent sarcasm and my splitter desperation into consideration.

thnxsomuchforthehalp.

how is it your best? sequencing games are hell......

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby dj9i27 » Wed May 17, 2017 4:17 pm

I'm going to reiterate please nobody apply to Stanford this cycle so they are forced to accept me

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby Mikey » Wed May 17, 2017 4:17 pm

dj9i27 wrote:I'm going to reiterate please nobody apply to Stanford this cycle so they are forced to accept me

I don't even know if I'm going to be applying to stanny tbh

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Postby dj9i27 » Wed May 17, 2017 4:20 pm

Mikey wrote:
dj9i27 wrote:I'm going to reiterate please nobody apply to Stanford this cycle so they are forced to accept me

I don't even know if I'm going to be applying to stanny tbh

if everyone stays out, I have a shot.

lmao I am spending a month of a tailored PS and I'm still going to get super dinged

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby Mikey » Wed May 17, 2017 4:22 pm

dj9i27 wrote:
Mikey wrote:
dj9i27 wrote:I'm going to reiterate please nobody apply to Stanford this cycle so they are forced to accept me

I don't even know if I'm going to be applying to stanny tbh

if everyone stays out, I have a shot.

lmao I am spending a month of a tailored PS and I'm still going to get super dinged

who is your 2nd and 3rd choice?

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby dj9i27 » Wed May 17, 2017 4:25 pm

Mikey wrote:
dj9i27 wrote:
Mikey wrote:
dj9i27 wrote:I'm going to reiterate please nobody apply to Stanford this cycle so they are forced to accept me

I don't even know if I'm going to be applying to stanny tbh

if everyone stays out, I have a shot.

lmao I am spending a month of a tailored PS and I'm still going to get super dinged

who is your 2nd and 3rd choice?

$$$ and then $$ lol

Stanny is the only school i would pay sticker at, lots of folks with my numbers either get dinged or hella money from Duke/UVA/Mich. I would like to practice BL in Texas if I accrue so much crippling debt but otherwise I'm clerk orientated rn

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby chewinggum » Wed May 17, 2017 4:26 pm

Mikey wrote:
chewinggum wrote:
Mikey wrote:hey LSAC, if you're seeing this, can you make the September 2017 LSAT have all sequencing games? I cannot do them and they are the toughest things in the world and I would really like you to challenge me on test day. So please give us (U.S. takers--disclosed) all 4 sequencing games :)

thanks<3

Sequencing happens to be my best. So LSAC, yes, please take Mikey's apparent sarcasm and my splitter desperation into consideration.

thnxsomuchforthehalp.

how is it your best? sequencing games are hell......

I honestly couldn't tell you. Those are the only questions I always get right. My biggest issue is time when it comes to "total and complete list of ___..." (forgot what these are called)

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby Mikey » Wed May 17, 2017 4:27 pm

dj9i27 wrote:
Mikey wrote:
dj9i27 wrote:
Mikey wrote:
dj9i27 wrote:I'm going to reiterate please nobody apply to Stanford this cycle so they are forced to accept me

I don't even know if I'm going to be applying to stanny tbh

if everyone stays out, I have a shot.

lmao I am spending a month of a tailored PS and I'm still going to get super dinged

who is your 2nd and 3rd choice?

$$$ and then $$ lol

Stanny is the only school i would pay sticker at, lots of folks with my numbers either get dinged or hella money from Duke/UVA/Mich. I would like to practice BL in Texas if I accrue so much crippling debt but otherwise I'm clerk orientated rn

So UT is a top option with good $$$ for you?

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby Mikey » Wed May 17, 2017 4:28 pm

chewinggum wrote:
Mikey wrote:
chewinggum wrote:
Mikey wrote:hey LSAC, if you're seeing this, can you make the September 2017 LSAT have all sequencing games? I cannot do them and they are the toughest things in the world and I would really like you to challenge me on test day. So please give us (U.S. takers--disclosed) all 4 sequencing games :)

thanks<3

Sequencing happens to be my best. So LSAC, yes, please take Mikey's apparent sarcasm and my splitter desperation into consideration.

thnxsomuchforthehalp.

how is it your best? sequencing games are hell......

I honestly couldn't tell you. Those are the only questions I always get right. My biggest issue is time when it comes to "total and complete list of ___..." (forgot what these are called)

I physically cannot do sequencing games. my body freezes and I panic, they're so hard :(

p.s. LSAC, also give a bunch of main conclusion questions in LR please, those are pretty damn tough, seriously..



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