The Official September 2017 Study Group

Prepare for the LSAT or discuss it with others in this forum.

Are you ready for tomorrow?!?!?!

FUCK YES
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Yeah, kind of
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Ehh, hoping for the best
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Not prepared but screw it
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HAHAHA I'M NOT EVEN TAKING THE LSAT, SUCKS FOR YOU GUYS
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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby Lalalsat96 » Sat May 06, 2017 12:48 am

Just bought the Mahattan prep RC book 2014 edition even though theres a 2016. I may be acting type A but theres no huge difference in editions right? Like im assuming everyone used the 2014 book with no issues? (Might be in the wrong thread for this but yolo)

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby dj9i27 » Sat May 06, 2017 12:53 am

Lalalsat96 wrote:Just bought the Mahattan prep RC book 2014 edition even though theres a 2016. I may be acting type A but theres no huge difference in editions right? Like im assuming everyone used the 2014 book with no issues? (Might be in the wrong thread for this but yolo)

Nah, the only thing I'd say that changed was the trap questions in RC and difficulty of the passages (now I'd say there is 1 WTF is this, 1 really hard, 1 easy and 1 medium-hard). LG has changed the most imo with the genesis of the "weird games"

edit: okay, has anyone downloaded the new OS for Android... IT CHANGES WORDS TO NOT EVEN CLOSE TO WHAT YOU PUT, Y

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby 34iplaw » Sat May 06, 2017 1:50 am

Last year editions of LG books don't really do a great job of teaching weird games, and I kind of doubt these ones do either.

I think the main thing to do is study LG as they teach, but try to learn the games on a deeper level. Look for answers that are logically equivalent, variables that are the same in answer choices, etc. Look for questions that repeat the same chain of logic within a given game. It's pretty common. You may not notice this if you solve the game to the fullest of your ability upfront. Some examples that come to mind that may be spoilers...

Mauve Dinosaurs
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IIRC, there are actually only two colors (maybe three), as the colors are effectively mauve and not mauve. IIRC,
two of the three colors only apply to one set dinosaur, and the third color has one dinosaur but that dinosaur can be a few different ones. In effect, it's a game with 3 not-mauve dinosaurs and 2 mauve dinosaurs.


Clans
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Nothing is set in stone right off the bat, so all variables are equivalent. If a question had no local conditions and was a MBT, no answer could be correct if another answer referred to the same slots and had the same number of variables regardless of what those variables actually were.


Buildings
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IIRC, the game never specifies a set number of trades. This should instantly clue you into the idea there must be some deeper logic in what is allowed. If this clicked for you, this game legitimately took me maybe four minutes on test day since that clicked instantly.


Recurring inferences are pretty good too. I started writing some stuff up on those, but life has gotten in the way. I'm going to get back into it.

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby Mikey » Sat May 06, 2017 10:26 am

gross

why r u guys talking about the LSAT

ew :lol:

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby blackmamba8 » Sat May 06, 2017 1:27 pm

Welp I've officially graduated. I'm excited to start up studying Monday and become more active in this thread.

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby twiix » Sat May 06, 2017 1:29 pm

blackmamba8 wrote:Welp I've officially graduated. I'm excited to start up studying Monday and become more active in this thread.

being active in this thread is actually indirectly proportional to your success on the lsat. your best bet is to steer as far away from this as possible actually.

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby oopsu812 » Sat May 06, 2017 1:42 pm

So salsa dancing is fun af y'all. I encourage it. Much better than LSAT prep.

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby Alexandros » Sat May 06, 2017 2:23 pm

No idea what to do with all this spare time.

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby HesusChrist » Sat May 06, 2017 2:56 pm

In for this. 180 or bust. :arrow:

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby Rupert Pupkin » Sat May 06, 2017 3:42 pm

oopsu812 wrote:So salsa dancing is fun af y'all. I encourage it. Much better than LSAT prep.


I love salsa dancing. Not great at it, but have had a magnitude of experiences where I was able to learn enough to hold my own haha. Love just the music itself too. Always a great time

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby oopsu812 » Sat May 06, 2017 3:55 pm

jagerbom79 wrote:
oopsu812 wrote:So salsa dancing is fun af y'all. I encourage it. Much better than LSAT prep.


I love salsa dancing. Not great at it, but have had a magnitude of experiences where I was able to learn enough to hold my own haha. Love just the music itself too. Always a great time

It's a lot of fun, eh? The music is brilliant and I'm excited about all the social events. Seems like a really fun community to be a part of. Everyday I'm thinking that NYC suits me more and more, lol.

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby Alexandros » Sat May 06, 2017 4:18 pm

In b4 Oopsu 300k debt for the salsa dancing.
(joking)

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby Rupert Pupkin » Sat May 06, 2017 4:23 pm

oopsu812 wrote:
jagerbom79 wrote:
oopsu812 wrote:So salsa dancing is fun af y'all. I encourage it. Much better than LSAT prep.


I love salsa dancing. Not great at it, but have had a magnitude of experiences where I was able to learn enough to hold my own haha. Love just the music itself too. Always a great time

It's a lot of fun, eh? The music is brilliant and I'm excited about all the social events. Seems like a really fun community to be a part of. Everyday I'm thinking that NYC suits me more and more, lol.


Haha! NYC is great if you are social and love being busy. Im sure there are plenty of salsa opportunities...

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby oopsu812 » Sat May 06, 2017 4:25 pm

Alexandros wrote:In b4 Oopsu 300k debt for the salsa dancing.
(joking)

300k debt for LS, 100k debt for salsa clubs and Broadway shows.
Hammy plz.

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby oopsu812 » Sat May 06, 2017 4:29 pm

jagerbom79 wrote:
oopsu812 wrote:
jagerbom79 wrote:
oopsu812 wrote:So salsa dancing is fun af y'all. I encourage it. Much better than LSAT prep.


I love salsa dancing. Not great at it, but have had a magnitude of experiences where I was able to learn enough to hold my own haha. Love just the music itself too. Always a great time

It's a lot of fun, eh? The music is brilliant and I'm excited about all the social events. Seems like a really fun community to be a part of. Everyday I'm thinking that NYC suits me more and more, lol.


Haha! NYC is great if you are social and love being busy. Im sure there are plenty of salsa opportunities...

I think I'd like always being surrounded by things to do. One of my biggest qualms with where I live now is that I'm in a suburb, and have to bus downtown. Kills any spontaneity and makes drinking a nightmare.

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby Alexandros » Sat May 06, 2017 4:44 pm

The gym closes so damn early on weekends it's ridiculous.

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby PrezRand » Sat May 06, 2017 5:33 pm

I feel like im the only one who does not gaf about graduation

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby Mikey » Sat May 06, 2017 5:50 pm

PrezRand wrote:I feel like im the only one who does not gaf about graduation

nope, Idgaf about graduation either. I really don't want to go to my graduation but I know it means a lot to my mom so fuck it why not.

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby Alexandros » Sat May 06, 2017 6:44 pm

When will my energy return from the war....

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby PrezRand » Sat May 06, 2017 7:32 pm

Sometimes I wish I had a study group :(

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby AvatarMeelo » Sat May 06, 2017 8:01 pm

LG bosses: How soon after a game+review do you reattempt the set? I've been putting it aside and noting it on an excel sheet which game, what type, and my difficulty with it or reason I want to retry it for later. But I haven't done any right, right away. I'm trying to avoid "memorizing" the solution to a game.

What do you folks do for game review where you may not have gone -0?

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby PrezRand » Sat May 06, 2017 8:30 pm

clueless801 wrote:LG bosses: How soon after a game+review do you reattempt the set? I've been putting it aside and noting it on an excel sheet which game, what type, and my difficulty with it or reason I want to retry it for later. But I haven't done any right, right away. I'm trying to avoid "memorizing" the solution to a game.

What do you folks do for game review where you may not have gone -0?

For me, when I get a question wrong on LGs, it is probably because of some dumb error and I can immediately figure out my mistake. As for whenever I get more than 1 or 2 wrong on a game, I use 7sage explanations

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby 34iplaw » Sat May 06, 2017 10:23 pm

clueless801 wrote:LG bosses: How soon after a game+review do you reattempt the set? I've been putting it aside and noting it on an excel sheet which game, what type, and my difficulty with it or reason I want to retry it for later. But I haven't done any right, right away. I'm trying to avoid "memorizing" the solution to a game.

What do you folks do for game review where you may not have gone -0?


Memorizing solutions to games isn't the end of the world. Once you memorize enough, it'll blend. I, honestly, thought I saw the third game from Decembers PT previously. There was a previous game with the same topic and layout. Maybe two.

Ultimately, there are only so many ways they can dress up a sequencing or grouping game. If you memorize the underlying logic of a game, it may help you in another game. It likely will.

All that said, I did not take that approach and am not sober - sitting in cab on way to Brooklyn after running out of swipes. I did a ton of games by type. After learning the basics, my process was as follows and it was mainly to discourage stupid and lazy mistakes.

1st round:
Do 6-12 games of same type in a row for speed and accuracy. Simple sequencing games take me ~3 minutes these days even if new, so I'd do a lot of those in a row.

If a game took too long or I missed a question, I made myself prove and disprove every single answer choice. This was to get lazy errors on questions down - mainly min/max which I'm susceptible to b/c I write relatively little.

After that, I'd watch the 7Sage video for every game whether I missed something or not.

After mastering games, I basically just did the second step if I missed a question on a PT.

I said this elsewhere but I'd focus on the ideas of interchangeable variables, logically equivalent answers, etc. that further dissection can make unfamiliar games far quicker and easier.

TLDR - memorizing LGs is not an issue if you are recalling the underlying logic. There are only so many ways rules can be forced together on LGs, and many LGs could be looked at as parts of other games cobbled together. There's few truly unique lsat games.

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby Rupert Pupkin » Sat May 06, 2017 10:47 pm

oopsu812 wrote:
jagerbom79 wrote:
oopsu812 wrote:
jagerbom79 wrote:
oopsu812 wrote:So salsa dancing is fun af y'all. I encourage it. Much better than LSAT prep.


I love salsa dancing. Not great at it, but have had a magnitude of experiences where I was able to learn enough to hold my own haha. Love just the music itself too. Always a great time

It's a lot of fun, eh? The music is brilliant and I'm excited about all the social events. Seems like a really fun community to be a part of. Everyday I'm thinking that NYC suits me more and more, lol.


Haha! NYC is great if you are social and love being busy. Im sure there are plenty of salsa opportunities...

I think I'd like always being surrounded by things to do. One of my biggest qualms with where I live now is that I'm in a suburb, and have to bus downtown. Kills any spontaneity and makes drinking a nightmare.


I've been living in NY for about a year now. It's Mint !

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby oopsu812 » Sat May 06, 2017 11:08 pm

jagerbom79 wrote:
oopsu812 wrote:
jagerbom79 wrote:
oopsu812 wrote:
jagerbom79 wrote:
oopsu812 wrote:So salsa dancing is fun af y'all. I encourage it. Much better than LSAT prep.


I love salsa dancing. Not great at it, but have had a magnitude of experiences where I was able to learn enough to hold my own haha. Love just the music itself too. Always a great time

It's a lot of fun, eh? The music is brilliant and I'm excited about all the social events. Seems like a really fun community to be a part of. Everyday I'm thinking that NYC suits me more and more, lol.


Haha! NYC is great if you are social and love being busy. Im sure there are plenty of salsa opportunities...

I think I'd like always being surrounded by things to do. One of my biggest qualms with where I live now is that I'm in a suburb, and have to bus downtown. Kills any spontaneity and makes drinking a nightmare.


I've been living in NY for about a year now. It's Mint !

I'm glad! Hope to be there someday! :D Lulz, "mint". Didn't realise that word had reached North America already.



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