The Official September 2017 Study Group

Prepare for the LSAT or discuss it with others in this forum.

Are you ready for tomorrow?!?!?!

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Yeah, kind of
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Ehh, hoping for the best
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HAHAHA I'M NOT EVEN TAKING THE LSAT, SUCKS FOR YOU GUYS
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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

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Postby Pozzo » Wed Mar 22, 2017 10:46 pm

R. Jeeves wrote:
Alexandros wrote:1. Iz can study 4 GRE in dis Forum? (in addition to LSAT, obvz.)

wait if theres demand for this ill make a gre study group thread. bc im legit tryna take the gre soon

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby galeatus » Wed Mar 22, 2017 10:48 pm

Alexandros wrote:
34iplaw wrote:
Alexandros wrote:
dj9i27 wrote:
oopsu812 wrote:
dj9i27 wrote:
oopsu812 wrote:
Yeah, a named scholarship would probably get me to consider most T13s. Even if I couldn't find love, I'd still have 0 debt (I'd have debt in Canada no matter what), and I'd be (hopefully) able to make a US Biglaw salary for a little while before going back with my pockets lined... Damn, you're putting ideas into my head.

you've just said my plan lol. I don't mind being 50 grand or so before CoL in debt because that's a year payback living frugal. problem is my gpa isn't great sub 3.5 greater than 3.0, but lots of folks with my numbers or close have gotten serious money.


We better cash in before the GRE ruins everything.

This... Will be interesting to watch. Resident Mr. Meme aka 34 has speculated that it could make a high LSAT even more valuable.

He did?
Explain yourself, Meme Master.


Well, it all depends on a lot of moving parts, and there are really too many moving parts to know for certain.

That said, I think it's safe to assume the LSAT will be important in rankings for quite some time. Let us say all law schools start taking the GRE seriously but the LSAT is still critical for rankings. Either way, it seems like LSAT medians will likely keep some weight for some time, correct? I think this disincentivizes people to take the LSAT heavily, particularly among those with high GPAs that could probably score a 170+.

For example, let us take Alex 2.0 who is applying a year from now where any T14 will take competitive GREs. Alex probably would get a 170+, but why would he even risk it? Take the GRE (an easier test that has more flexibility), and you save the LSAT as a backup in the event you cannot crush the GRE. To me, this seems like totally reasonable calculus, and it is how I would approach it if I were in that position.

Who takes the LSAT? People that can't do well on the GRE (I suspect intelligent people who cannot do well on the GRE will not fare well on the LSAT). Number of LSAT takers drop and fewer high scorers.

Ultimately, I think reverse splitters are the people that are absolutely screwed by this change. They are just a GRE applicant that screws your LSAT median. Splitters will be hurt as well, but a lot of that depends on whether there is a decline in the number of people that take the LSAT.

Make sense.

I'm guessing/hoping that the LSAT will retain importance and many people will continue to take it rather than the risky move of a GRE, and it'll just be some time before any major changes happen. plz

Also, re - a year from now (say 2018) any t14 will accept a competitive GRE - Is this a thing or an example?


There will definitely be schools following H's example, but according to MS9, it's unlikely to happen before 2019 because of ABA etc.

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby Alexandros » Wed Mar 22, 2017 10:49 pm

dj9i27 wrote:we also should keep in mind that just because the ABA MIGHT say it is okay for LS to take the GRE, it doesn't mean that they will.

And I mean - think about it. Say your GPA is 3.85 or whatever. You think you have a solid chance at H/t14 since you're near median. You know H/t14 is accepting GREs now in place of the LSAT, but there is little to no information on how that will impact admissions. Do you apply with a GRE or try to get a solid LSAT?
If I were this person, I'd play it safe and try to get a solid LSAT, rather than face the unknown that is applying with only a GRE. I don't like being optimistic about these things but I think/hope it'll be a few years for there to be any major effect.

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby oopsu812 » Wed Mar 22, 2017 10:53 pm

I just feel like the GRE tests you on a lot of stuff that is completely irrelevant to law school. Just on principle it frustrates me.

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What are some good work out songs? I need something that's really fast to get me going, so far the only thing that gets me going like crazy is Enrique Iglesias' "I Like It".

Google Music' work out playlist is not cutting it for me, everything is waay too slow!!

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Postby 34iplaw » Wed Mar 22, 2017 10:59 pm

Alexandros wrote:Make sense.

I'm guessing/hoping that the LSAT will retain importance and many people will continue to take it rather than the risky move of a GRE, and it'll just be some time before any major changes happen. plz

Also, re - a year from now (say 2018) any t14 will accept a competitive GRE - Is this a thing or an example?


The t14 is just an example or hypothetical, but I don't see a reason why the other T14s won't follow suit. Whether Harvard does it to game their medians or not, other schools most certainly can.

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Postby proteinshake » Wed Mar 22, 2017 11:01 pm

ngogirl12 wrote:What are some good work out songs? I need something that's really fast to get me going, so far the only thing that gets me going like crazy is Enrique Iglesias' "I Like It".

Google Music' work out playlist is not cutting it for me, everything is waay too slow!!

do you mind metal? if not then maybe Afrojack, Tiesto, and Alesso would be some good options.

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby 34iplaw » Wed Mar 22, 2017 11:04 pm

Alexandros wrote:
34iplaw wrote:
Alexandros wrote:Make sense.

I'm guessing/hoping that the LSAT will retain importance and many people will continue to take it rather than the risky move of a GRE, and it'll just be some time before any major changes happen. plz

Also, re - a year from now (say 2018) any t14 will accept a competitive GRE - Is this a thing or an example?


The t14 is just an example or hypothetical, but I don't see a reason why the other T14s won't follow suit. Whether Harvard does it to game their medians or not, other schools most certainly can.

Just wanted to make sure there wasn't some kind of "ALERT: Any and all t14s will now be accepting competitive GRE's in Alex's cycle" thing that I missed.


Oh - not that I've heard of, but I wouldn't be surprised if a large number of schools started to take a non-trivial number of GRE students relatively quickly.

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby oopsu812 » Wed Mar 22, 2017 11:06 pm

Lots of gym goers here? I'd love to ask someone a couple questions (perhaps pm)? I'm getting a gym membership starting April, and am a bit at a loss as to how to achieve goals. I've always been a cardio person, so I know nothing about strength training.
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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby ngogirl12 » Wed Mar 22, 2017 11:06 pm

dj9i27 wrote:
ngogirl12 wrote:What are some good work out songs? I need something that's really fast to get me going, so far the only thing that gets me going like crazy is Enrique Iglesias' "I Like It".

Google Music' work out playlist is not cutting it for me, everything is waay too slow!!

I really got into Travis Scott recently
https://soundcloud.com/travisscott-2/wo ... knd#t=0:00


Thanks!! I'll check it out.

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Postby proteinshake » Wed Mar 22, 2017 11:07 pm

oopsu812 wrote:Lots of gym goers here? I'd love to ask someone a couple questions (perhaps pm)? I'm getting a gym membership starting April, and am a bit at a loss as to how to achieve goals. I've always been a cardio person, so I know nothing about strength training.

you'll get some good answers here: viewtopic.php?f=10&t=259807

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby oopsu812 » Wed Mar 22, 2017 11:07 pm

proteinshake wrote:
oopsu812 wrote:Lots of gym goers here? I'd love to ask someone a couple questions (perhaps pm)? I'm getting a gym membership starting April, and am a bit at a loss as to how to achieve goals. I've always been a cardio person, so I know nothing about strength training.

you'll get some good answers here: viewtopic.php?f=10&t=259807


Oh sweet, thank you.

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby ngogirl12 » Wed Mar 22, 2017 11:08 pm

proteinshake wrote:
ngogirl12 wrote:What are some good work out songs? I need something that's really fast to get me going, so far the only thing that gets me going like crazy is Enrique Iglesias' "I Like It".

Google Music' work out playlist is not cutting it for me, everything is waay too slow!!

do you mind metal? if not then maybe Afrojack, Tiesto, and Alesso would be some good options.


I've never listened to metal, I'll check it out though and see if it works.

I really want something with a fast beat/chorus because it makes me faster-quicker-crazier in the gym.

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Postby ngogirl12 » Wed Mar 22, 2017 11:15 pm

oopsu812 wrote:Lots of gym goers here? I'd love to ask someone a couple questions (perhaps pm)? I'm getting a gym membership starting April, and am a bit at a loss as to how to achieve goals. I've always been a cardio person, so I know nothing about strength training.


I used to only do cardio/dance classes, but in order to achieve results you need to mix in weight/strength training. It's also about living a healthy life (eating healthy with one cheat day a week but not going to crazy in those days), and getting enough sleep. :)

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby proteinshake » Wed Mar 22, 2017 11:16 pm

ngogirl12 wrote:
proteinshake wrote:
ngogirl12 wrote:What are some good work out songs? I need something that's really fast to get me going, so far the only thing that gets me going like crazy is Enrique Iglesias' "I Like It".

Google Music' work out playlist is not cutting it for me, everything is waay too slow!!

do you mind metal? if not then maybe Afrojack, Tiesto, and Alesso would be some good options.


I've never listened to metal, I'll check it out though and see if it works.

I really want something with a fast beat/chorus because it makes me faster-quicker-crazier in the gym.

here are some recs that fit that criteria:




Rammstein is like 80% of what I listen to tho

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby 34iplaw » Wed Mar 22, 2017 11:17 pm

dj9i27 wrote:
Alexandros wrote:
34iplaw wrote:
Alexandros wrote:
34iplaw wrote:
Alexandros wrote:Make sense.

I'm guessing/hoping that the LSAT will retain importance and many people will continue to take it rather than the risky move of a GRE, and it'll just be some time before any major changes happen. plz

Also, re - a year from now (say 2018) any t14 will accept a competitive GRE - Is this a thing or an example?


The t14 is just an example or hypothetical, but I don't see a reason why the other T14s won't follow suit. Whether Harvard does it to game their medians or not, other schools most certainly can.

Just wanted to make sure there wasn't some kind of "ALERT: Any and all t14s will now be accepting competitive GRE's in Alex's cycle" thing that I missed.


Oh - not that I've heard of, but I wouldn't be surprised if a large number of schools started to take a non-trivial number of GRE students relatively quickly.

The LSAT's still gotta retain some importance for at least a few years after they start officially accepting GREs though, right?
If not... fuck. :|

I guess I could apply next fall but I really felt like the higher GPA and gap year/mitigated KJD status would be worth sitting out, but maybe not.

I feel like 34 and I are in somewhat different camps. I think no serious GRE implications will be taken into affect for at least 3 years. This could also mean the LSAC getting their act together with how to conduct standardized tests.


I mean I also don't think Alex falls into a UGPA camp (AFAIK) where he would be a splitter or reverse splitter by any real means. I don't think changes will necessarily come into play that quick in any huge way. I'm more just postulating a world in which the top schools take both the GRE and LSAT.

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

Postby ngogirl12 » Wed Mar 22, 2017 11:17 pm

proteinshake wrote:
ngogirl12 wrote:
proteinshake wrote:
ngogirl12 wrote:What are some good work out songs? I need something that's really fast to get me going, so far the only thing that gets me going like crazy is Enrique Iglesias' "I Like It".

Google Music' work out playlist is not cutting it for me, everything is waay too slow!!

do you mind metal? if not then maybe Afrojack, Tiesto, and Alesso would be some good options.


I've never listened to metal, I'll check it out though and see if it works.

I really want something with a fast beat/chorus because it makes me faster-quicker-crazier in the gym.

here are some recs that fit that criteria:




Rammstein is like 80% of what I listen to tho


Thank you!!

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Re: The Official September 2017 Study Group

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