Is it more effective to learn Logic Games by the order of their PrepTests or by game type?

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Is it more effective to learn Logic Games by the order of their PrepTests or by game type?

Postby gmerch15 » Mon Mar 13, 2017 1:12 am

So far in my Logic Games study I've been working through them chronologically, i.e. the 4 games from PT 10, then PT 11, and so on. I've done this with the idea in mind that I'll be working through the most recent problems in the several weeks before taking the test.

However, I've seen others take the approach of sorting the games by type such as "Basic Linear - Balanced" or "Grouping - Undefined" and working through them in this fashion.

Link to T14's post about game types: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=50657&p=1042536&hilit=pithypike#p1042536

Is this second strategy more effective?

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Re: Is it more effective to learn Logic Games by the order of their PrepTests or by game type?

Postby Alexandros » Mon Mar 13, 2017 1:16 am

Game type.

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Re: Is it more effective to learn Logic Games by the order of their PrepTests or by game type?

Postby Mikey » Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:31 am

Alexandros wrote:Game type.

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Re: Is it more effective to learn Logic Games by the order of their PrepTests or by game type?

Postby Veil of Ignorance » Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:34 am

Alexandros wrote:Game type.

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Re: Is it more effective to learn Logic Games by the order of their PrepTests or by game type?

Postby Voyager » Mon Mar 13, 2017 2:50 pm

for sure game type.

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Re: Is it more effective to learn Logic Games by the order of their PrepTests or by game type?

Postby Future Ex-Engineer » Mon Mar 13, 2017 2:56 pm

Game type, but even more effective is to just learn to think properly about logic games.

If you know 'types', but then run across a weird one on test day, you might be hosed. If you actually learn how to process the information presented by games and critically evaluate it/apply rules, you'll crush any games.

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Re: Is it more effective to learn Logic Games by the order of their PrepTests or by game type?

Postby Mikey » Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:58 pm

mrgstephe wrote:Game type, but even more effective is to just learn to think properly about logic games.

If you know 'types', but then run across a weird one on test day, you might be hosed. If you actually learn how to process the information presented by games and critically evaluate it/apply rules, you'll crush any games.

this is true and I agree. but I feel like learning by type will still allow you to adapt any weird games to the diagramming you already know. you just have to think about how you will approach it.

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Re: Is it more effective to learn Logic Games by the order of their PrepTests or by game type?

Postby Future Ex-Engineer » Mon Mar 13, 2017 5:22 pm

Mikey wrote:
mrgstephe wrote:Game type, but even more effective is to just learn to think properly about logic games.

If you know 'types', but then run across a weird one on test day, you might be hosed. If you actually learn how to process the information presented by games and critically evaluate it/apply rules, you'll crush any games.

this is true and I agree. but I feel like learning by type will still allow you to adapt any weird games to the diagramming you already know. you just have to think about how you will approach it.


Agreed - learning by type I think is quite effective, especially for non-engineering/hard maths types learning to take the test. It's probably the best short term substitute for years of undergrad in problem solving courses.

The learning by type method pushed me from my start of -5 to -0 in about 3 weeks (but I did have the problem solving background, so who knows)

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Re: Is it more effective to learn Logic Games by the order of their PrepTests or by game type?

Postby AJordan » Mon Mar 13, 2017 5:27 pm

I'll play devil's advocate here and say that I think there is more to be gleaned from doing games by PT section than by type though, admittedly, it's person dependent. I never learned a "game type" per se. I just started sensing patterns in the ways certain games are set up/worded. I think I got some serious value by allowing myself be surprised by the next game that was coming while studying/PTing and I really think that paid off in spades on my actual test where I was flying high and then turned to game 4 to see something that I hadn't seen in months. There is value in learning how not to panic when you see something unfamiliar. If your goal is to accurately complete 3 games or fewer, then yeah, maybe type is the way to go. If you're gunning for -0 I think at least some of your study needs to be timed sections when you don't know what's coming next.

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Re: Is it more effective to learn Logic Games by the order of their PrepTests or by game type?

Postby Future Ex-Engineer » Mon Mar 13, 2017 5:37 pm

AJordan wrote:I'll play devil's advocate here and say that I think there is more to be gleaned from doing games by PT section than by type though, admittedly, it's person dependent. I never learned a "game type" per se. I just started sensing patterns in the ways certain games are set up/worded. I think I got some serious value by allowing myself be surprised by the next game that was coming while studying/PTing and I really think that paid off in spades on my actual test where I was flying high and then turned to game 4 to see something that I hadn't seen in months. There is value in learning how not to panic when you see something unfamiliar. If your goal is to accurately complete 3 games or fewer, then yeah, maybe type is the way to go. If you're gunning for -0 I think at least some of your study needs to be timed sections when you don't know what's coming next.


I think you're really just agreeing with everyone - no one is saying not to do PTs or timed sections...

We're just of the opinion that if you learn the game types first, you'll be better set when you go to practicing sections.




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