THE [OFFICIAL] The Official December 2016 Waiters' Thread - CONFIRMED GREY: 1/3/2017 @ 4:29EST

Prepare for the LSAT or discuss it with others in this forum.

What did you get?

180
8
6%
175-179
8
6%
170-174
32
23%
165-169
39
27%
160-164
27
19%
155-159
13
9%
150-154
8
6%
120-149
7
5%
 
Total votes: 142

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Re: THE [OFFICIAL] The Official December 2016 Waiters' Thread - End of Watch (Hopefully)

Postby Greenteachurro » Mon Jan 02, 2017 3:15 pm

34iplaw wrote:
Vino.Veritas wrote:
34iplaw wrote:
cherrygalore wrote:
Vino.Veritas wrote:
Pozzo wrote:Was just talking about the last two games with my dad, put me into an absolute panic.


Join me


Already deep in it.

I told my mom I was stressed this am and she was sweet like "It'll be great whatever happens, you'll end up where you're meant to be!" and I was like "Uhhh ok so you're basically giving me a cop out because you think my score is going to be shit!?!? How can I believe in myself if you don't believe in me!?" So basically I'm insane this morning.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Real talk though... I hate those sayings. With a passion. I was super close to some girl that always said that stuff. It drove me up the wall.


Just because I'm "meant to be somewhere" doesn't mean I want to be there. THESE ARE NOT THE SAME THINGS


For real. I also think it just absolves responsibility, agency, and willpower. I guess I'm a humanist when it comes down to it. Pico della Mirandola for life. Oration on the Dignity of Man is my jam.

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Let a holy ambition enter into our souls; let us not be content with mediocrity, but rather strive after the highest and expend all our strength in achieving it.

Adam, we give you no fixed place to live, no form that is peculiar to you, nor any function that is yours alone. According to your desires and judgment, you will have and possess whatever place to live, whatever form, and whatever functions you yourself choose. All other things have a limited and fixed nature prescribed and bounded by our laws. You, with no limit or no bound, may choose for yourself the limits and bounds of your nature. We have placed you at the world's center so that you may survey everything else in the world. We have made you neither of heavenly nor of earthly stuff, neither mortal nor immortal, so that with free choice and dignity, you may fashion yourself into whatever form you choose. To you is granted the power of degrading yourself into the lower forms of life, the beasts, and to you is granted the power, contained in your intellect and judgment, to be reborn into the higher forms, the divine.


Ehh I see myself as a soft determinist like there's a lot of things I was never meant to be, I was never meant to be a professional athelete or anything like that. I also believe that people are probably predetermined out of some occupations or lifestyles just based on genetics. That's not say however that people can't overcome obstacles and the "odds" so to speak, but I bet those people are already predisposed to being slightly exceptional.

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Re: THE [OFFICIAL] The Official December 2016 Waiters' Thread - End of Watch (Hopefully)

Postby Greenteachurro » Mon Jan 02, 2017 3:19 pm

Pozzo wrote:
cherrygalore wrote:
Vino.Veritas wrote:
Pozzo wrote:Was just talking about the last two games with my dad, put me into an absolute panic.


Join me


Already deep in it.

I told my mom I was stressed this am and she was sweet like "It'll be great whatever happens, you'll end up where you're meant to be!" and I was like "Uhhh ok so you're basically giving me a cop out because you think my score is going to be shit!?!? How can I believe in myself if you don't believe in me!?" So basically I'm insane this morning.


That's the pits. I'm pretty sure my family (and definitely Mrs. Pozzo's family) are actively rooting for a low score to keep me local. This blows.


My grilfriend wants me to get a mediocre score for the second time as well which is rough.

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Re: THE [OFFICIAL] The Official December 2016 Waiters' Thread - End of Watch (Hopefully)

Postby cherrygalore » Mon Jan 02, 2017 3:20 pm

Greenteachurro wrote:
Pozzo wrote:
That's the pits. I'm pretty sure my family (and definitely Mrs. Pozzo's family) are actively rooting for a low score to keep me local. This blows.


My grilfriend wants me to get a mediocre score for the second time as well which is rough.


What?! Why?? That's terrible.

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Re: THE [OFFICIAL] The Official December 2016 Waiters' Thread - End of Watch (Hopefully)

Postby 34iplaw » Mon Jan 02, 2017 3:21 pm

Greenteachurro wrote:
34iplaw wrote:
Vino.Veritas wrote:
34iplaw wrote:
cherrygalore wrote:
Vino.Veritas wrote:
Pozzo wrote:Was just talking about the last two games with my dad, put me into an absolute panic.


Join me


Already deep in it.

I told my mom I was stressed this am and she was sweet like "It'll be great whatever happens, you'll end up where you're meant to be!" and I was like "Uhhh ok so you're basically giving me a cop out because you think my score is going to be shit!?!? How can I believe in myself if you don't believe in me!?" So basically I'm insane this morning.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Real talk though... I hate those sayings. With a passion. I was super close to some girl that always said that stuff. It drove me up the wall.


Just because I'm "meant to be somewhere" doesn't mean I want to be there. THESE ARE NOT THE SAME THINGS


For real. I also think it just absolves responsibility, agency, and willpower. I guess I'm a humanist when it comes down to it. Pico della Mirandola for life. Oration on the Dignity of Man is my jam.

Highlights:
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Let a holy ambition enter into our souls; let us not be content with mediocrity, but rather strive after the highest and expend all our strength in achieving it.

Adam, we give you no fixed place to live, no form that is peculiar to you, nor any function that is yours alone. According to your desires and judgment, you will have and possess whatever place to live, whatever form, and whatever functions you yourself choose. All other things have a limited and fixed nature prescribed and bounded by our laws. You, with no limit or no bound, may choose for yourself the limits and bounds of your nature. We have placed you at the world's center so that you may survey everything else in the world. We have made you neither of heavenly nor of earthly stuff, neither mortal nor immortal, so that with free choice and dignity, you may fashion yourself into whatever form you choose. To you is granted the power of degrading yourself into the lower forms of life, the beasts, and to you is granted the power, contained in your intellect and judgment, to be reborn into the higher forms, the divine.


Ehh I see myself as a soft determinist like there's a lot of things I was never meant to be, I was never meant to be a professional athelete or anything like that. I also believe that people are probably predetermined out of some occupations or lifestyles just based on genetics. That's not say however that people can't overcome obstacles and the "odds" so to speak, but I bet those people are already predisposed to being slightly exceptional.


Isn't there an LSAT passage explicitly on this with chess players and athletes and such? That's all fair, and I wouldn't argue it. I do think there are definitely instances of people overcoming incredible adversity, but, at the same time, they often possessed an undeniable gift. I do think that the message is of humanism is largely important and a great attitude, but there are certainly limitations to its' applicability or veracity in regards to real life.

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Re: THE [OFFICIAL] The Official December 2016 Waiters' Thread - End of Watch (Hopefully)

Postby amta » Mon Jan 02, 2017 3:21 pm

my SO just wants to beat me

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Re: THE [OFFICIAL] The Official December 2016 Waiters' Thread - End of Watch (Hopefully)

Postby 34iplaw » Mon Jan 02, 2017 3:22 pm

Side note: TLS should automatically wrap anything beyond the most recent layer in a quote behind a spoiler.

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Re: THE [OFFICIAL] The Official December 2016 Waiters' Thread - End of Watch (Hopefully)

Postby amta » Mon Jan 02, 2017 3:23 pm

34iplaw wrote:Side note: TLS should automatically wrap anything beyond the most recent layer in a quote behind a spoiler.


just don't quote

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Re: THE [OFFICIAL] The Official December 2016 Waiters' Thread - End of Watch (Hopefully)

Postby Greenteachurro » Mon Jan 02, 2017 3:23 pm

cherrygalore wrote:
Greenteachurro wrote:
Pozzo wrote:
That's the pits. I'm pretty sure my family (and definitely Mrs. Pozzo's family) are actively rooting for a low score to keep me local. This blows.


My grilfriend wants me to get a mediocre score for the second time as well which is rough.


What?! Why?? That's terrible.


It's not out of spite, it's just so that I'll stay local mostly. I got into the local t20 school in this area already but, it's not where I'd like to go.

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Re: THE [OFFICIAL] The Official December 2016 Waiters' Thread - End of Watch (Hopefully)

Postby Pozzo » Mon Jan 02, 2017 3:24 pm

amta wrote:my SO just wants to beat me

The couple that guns together stays together.

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Re: THE [OFFICIAL] The Official December 2016 Waiters' Thread - End of Watch (Hopefully)

Postby 34iplaw » Mon Jan 02, 2017 3:26 pm

amta wrote:just don't quote


Fair enough. I mainly do it for the notification to the person I am chatting with.

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Postby 34iplaw » Mon Jan 02, 2017 3:29 pm

In a why X and talking about the work of a professor, how should one refer to a JSD - Dr. or Professor.... I kind of hope Dr. just for character limit purposes! I sort of assume the preferred title is Dr.

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Re: THE [OFFICIAL] The Official December 2016 Waiters' Thread - End of Watch (Hopefully)

Postby amta » Mon Jan 02, 2017 3:31 pm

Pozzo wrote:
amta wrote:my SO just wants to beat me

The couple that guns together stays together.


i think i got her this time. she got me by 5 points last time

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Re: THE [OFFICIAL] The Official December 2016 Waiters' Thread - End of Watch (Hopefully)

Postby R. Jeeves » Mon Jan 02, 2017 3:32 pm

amta wrote:my SO just wants to beat me

Lucky. I asked my SO to beat me and she was really put off by it.

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Re: THE [OFFICIAL] The Official December 2016 Waiters' Thread - Arrrrre Yoooooou Ready????

Postby Lukky » Mon Jan 02, 2017 3:33 pm

Sorry guys, new to the waiting game. Do you know what time Gray Day usually happens? I get that it can happen until 5PM EST, but I was wondering if anyone knew when was the norm.

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Postby 34iplaw » Mon Jan 02, 2017 3:35 pm

Lukky wrote:Sorry guys, new to the waiting game. Do you know what time Gray Day usually happens? I get that it can happen until 5PM EST, but I was wondering if anyone knew when was the norm.


Mid late afternoon EST is the norm I believe.

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Re: THE [OFFICIAL] The Official December 2016 Waiters' Thread - End of Watch (Hopefully)

Postby bearedman8 » Mon Jan 02, 2017 3:41 pm

gwillygecko wrote:What do you think will be the number wrong for a 173?

In June, it was -11 for a 170 and -7 for a 173

In sept, -12 and -8

Sometimes a -11 allows 7 for a 173 and sometimes it allows 8. Sometimes a -12 allows 8 and sometimes 9.

Any predictions?

I don't think well be lucky enough to get a -9 for a 173, but maybe a -8?


Based on past tests:

-10 curve:
100% of -10 curves had -7 for 173, so expect that.

-11 curve:
-8 was the most common result for 173, with -7 the next most popular result. Based on past exams, there is a:
4.3% chance of -9 for 173
56.3% chance of -8 for 173
38.1% chance of -7 for 173
1.2% chance of -6 for 173

I didn't check -12 because I don't believe that the curve will be so generous.

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%Mode is calculated by integrating across the upper and lower bounds of the probability density function for a given random variable, given its mean and standard deviation.

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-10:
June 2015
October 2012
June 2012
June 2008
September 2007
September 2006
June 2006
October 2005
October 2004
June 2003
June 2002
February 1995
February 1992
October 1991

-11:
June 2013
June 2011
September 2009
June 2009
December 2008
December 2007
December 2006
December 2003
June 1994
February 1994
October 1992
December 1991

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Re: THE [OFFICIAL] The Official December 2016 Waiters' Thread - End of Watch (Hopefully)

Postby Mikey » Mon Jan 02, 2017 3:47 pm

R. Jeeves wrote:Lucky. I asked my SO to beat me and she was really put off by it.

hey oh

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Re: THE [OFFICIAL] The Official December 2016 Waiters' Thread - Arrrrre Yoooooou Ready????

Postby cherrygalore » Mon Jan 02, 2017 4:02 pm

But guys remember, no matter what happens today (180, 120, or no scores at all)... The Bachelor starts tonight!!!

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Re: THE [OFFICIAL] The Official December 2016 Waiters' Thread - Arrrrre Yoooooou Ready????

Postby appind » Mon Jan 02, 2017 4:06 pm

Just wanted to drop by here to say Good Luck to all waiters.

i didn't take the dec test, but took test multiple times, and finally getting over 170 hump.

so even if your score isn't what you want, you can retake and improve.

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Re: THE [OFFICIAL] The Official December 2016 Waiters' Thread - End of Watch (Hopefully)

Postby Kinch08 » Mon Jan 02, 2017 4:07 pm

At the time I thought I killed the last game, but now I'm weirdly worried that I totally misinterpreted it
and just happened to find a bunch of answers that seemed right

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Postby em15 » Mon Jan 02, 2017 4:09 pm

Kinch08 wrote:At the time I thought I killed the last game, but now I'm weirdly worried that I totally misinterpreted it
and just happened to find a bunch of answers that seemed right


+100000 THIS EXACTLY

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Re: THE [OFFICIAL] The Official December 2016 Waiters' Thread - End of Watch (Hopefully)

Postby 34iplaw » Mon Jan 02, 2017 4:10 pm

em15 wrote:
Kinch08 wrote:At the time I thought I killed the last game, but now I'm weirdly worried that I totally misinterpreted it
and just happened to find a bunch of answers that seemed right


+100000 THIS EXACTLY


Same way...It's so messed up that, while I don't remember the exact questions, I still remember the rules and set up vividly.

:? :? :?

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Re: THE [OFFICIAL] The Official December 2016 Waiters' Thread - Arrrrre Yoooooou Ready????

Postby cherrygalore » Mon Jan 02, 2017 4:12 pm

At what point would we know that today isn't going to be the day?

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Postby em15 » Mon Jan 02, 2017 4:13 pm

cherrygalore wrote:At what point would we know that today isn't going to be the day?


Probably by 5 or 5:30?

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Re: THE [OFFICIAL] The Official December 2016 Waiters' Thread - Arrrrre Yoooooou Ready????

Postby Capt_Beatty » Mon Jan 02, 2017 4:14 pm

em15 wrote:
cherrygalore wrote:At what point would we know that today isn't going to be the day?


Probably by 5 or 5:30?


12:00am EST tomorrow



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