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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:49 pm
by dj9i27
Walliums wrote:
dj9i27 wrote:
Walliums wrote:I have officially dumped the 7Sage Memory Method for RC. It was probably good to go through the strategy but putting it into practice I just waste a ton of time. Have been going through the early PTs RC sections and scoring -2 pretty consistently. Feeling good about this. Though I'm a little worried about whether the early PTs RC (we're talking 1-10) are insanely easier than the recent ones.
did you just adopt the, "imma read this shit and find out what it is without notes." approach?
Oh yeah :) I guess practicing with the memory method helped me read the passages differently/better? But it just felt like note taking and sucking up my time
Sometimes, I jot down stuff or a check mark to indicate MP or topic changes but mostly I just underline as I go as a placemarker (not like every line probably 40%)

Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:57 pm
by Walliums
dj9i27 wrote:
Walliums wrote:
dj9i27 wrote:
Walliums wrote:I have officially dumped the 7Sage Memory Method for RC. It was probably good to go through the strategy but putting it into practice I just waste a ton of time. Have been going through the early PTs RC sections and scoring -2 pretty consistently. Feeling good about this. Though I'm a little worried about whether the early PTs RC (we're talking 1-10) are insanely easier than the recent ones.
did you just adopt the, "imma read this shit and find out what it is without notes." approach?
Oh yeah :) I guess practicing with the memory method helped me read the passages differently/better? But it just felt like note taking and sucking up my time
Sometimes, I jot down stuff or a check mark to indicate MP or topic changes but mostly I just underline as I go as a placemarker (not like every line probably 40%)
I do the same as you. Mine is not a consistent notation strategy really.. But I feel like the notating for me is more for the read, when I get to the questions I rarely look at what I underlined.

Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 10:00 pm
by dj9i27
Walliums wrote:
dj9i27 wrote:
Walliums wrote:
dj9i27 wrote:
Walliums wrote:I have officially dumped the 7Sage Memory Method for RC. It was probably good to go through the strategy but putting it into practice I just waste a ton of time. Have been going through the early PTs RC sections and scoring -2 pretty consistently. Feeling good about this. Though I'm a little worried about whether the early PTs RC (we're talking 1-10) are insanely easier than the recent ones.
did you just adopt the, "imma read this shit and find out what it is without notes." approach?
Oh yeah :) I guess practicing with the memory method helped me read the passages differently/better? But it just felt like note taking and sucking up my time
Sometimes, I jot down stuff or a check mark to indicate MP or topic changes but mostly I just underline as I go as a placemarker (not like every line probably 40%)
I do the same as you. Mine is not a consistent notation strategy really.. But I feel like the notating for me is more for the read, when I get to the questions I rarely look at what I underlined.
The more one focuses on the content/structure rather than notation is when I think most see dramatic improvements in RC, my goal next month is 10 RCs with 2-3 days of heavy review in between. My studying/overall morale has been shit since the new years so I'm in the biggest rut right now; I went from two 180s to barely being able to hit 20/25 on LR.

Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 10:06 pm
by Mikey
dj9i27 wrote:
In/Out especially, it is much easier to go 1,2,3,etc for the rules and start working.
I love when in/out games are just 1 big long conditional chain. AH, I LGasm

Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 10:45 pm
by Legally Spears
Walliums wrote:
dj9i27 wrote:
Walliums wrote:I have officially dumped the 7Sage Memory Method for RC. It was probably good to go through the strategy but putting it into practice I just waste a ton of time. Have been going through the early PTs RC sections and scoring -2 pretty consistently. Feeling good about this. Though I'm a little worried about whether the early PTs RC (we're talking 1-10) are insanely easier than the recent ones.
did you just adopt the, "imma read this shit and find out what it is without notes." approach?
Oh yeah :) I guess practicing with the memory method helped me read the passages differently/better? But it just felt like note taking and sucking up my time
All of these different prep options are a bit overwhelming, and definitely a strain on the wallet. Pithypike's guide seems so simple in contrast. Only thing is that Kaplan's Big Orange isn't an option anymore. :|

Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:00 pm
by thewhalefish
First time here. Just checking in for the June test. I've been studying for a few weeks already and seeing steady improvement. I'm taking it slow at the moment so as to not burn out.

May God have mercy on our souls.

Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:08 pm
by Legally Spears
What's the absolute maximum you guys can study? I've been pushing myself till my eyes go cross (~6hrs), but I've heard keeping it to 4 hrs a day is the most productive/healthy?

Perhaps this is one of those, it doesn't really make a difference/depends on you Qs.

Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:25 pm
by Walliums
dj9i27 wrote:
Walliums wrote:
dj9i27 wrote:
Walliums wrote:
dj9i27 wrote:
Walliums wrote:I have officially dumped the 7Sage Memory Method for RC. It was probably good to go through the strategy but putting it into practice I just waste a ton of time. Have been going through the early PTs RC sections and scoring -2 pretty consistently. Feeling good about this. Though I'm a little worried about whether the early PTs RC (we're talking 1-10) are insanely easier than the recent ones.
did you just adopt the, "imma read this shit and find out what it is without notes." approach?
Oh yeah :) I guess practicing with the memory method helped me read the passages differently/better? But it just felt like note taking and sucking up my time
Sometimes, I jot down stuff or a check mark to indicate MP or topic changes but mostly I just underline as I go as a placemarker (not like every line probably 40%)
I do the same as you. Mine is not a consistent notation strategy really.. But I feel like the notating for me is more for the read, when I get to the questions I rarely look at what I underlined.
The more one focuses on the content/structure rather than notation is when I think most see dramatic improvements in RC, my goal next month is 10 RCs with 2-3 days of heavy review in between. My studying/overall morale has been shit since the new years so I'm in the biggest rut right now; I went from two 180s to barely being able to hit 20/25 on LR.
Ugh, frustrating. Aren't you moving soon? Hope you're gonna be able to get back into the swing of things soon!

Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:38 pm
by dj9i27
Walliums wrote:
Ugh, frustrating. Aren't you moving soon? Hope you're gonna be able to get back into the swing of things soon!
Yeah, 31st :/ It is just frustrating living with your parents in your early 20s when you haven't really been here for 5 years, and its only been 2.5 weeks lol. My brain schedule is:
Finish trainer before move
Get situated at new job/apartment/swolehouse for ~3 days
Start the drilling and PrepBooks.
June 12: 180 plz?
Legally Spears wrote:What's the absolute maximum you guys can study? I've been pushing myself till my eyes go cross (~6hrs), but I've heard keeping it to 4 hrs a day is the most productive/healthy?

Perhaps this is one of those, it doesn't really make a difference/depends on you Qs.
I think there is a point of diminishing return after 2 hours a session; you could pull 4 hour days but I'd separate them into am/pm sessions. Weekends I pull 6 hour days, 11am-1pm, break to do whatever, 5pm-8pm.

Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:57 pm
by aurelian
Legally Spears wrote:What's the absolute maximum you guys can study? I've been pushing myself till my eyes go cross (~6hrs), but I've heard keeping it to 4 hrs a day is the most productive/healthy?

Perhaps this is one of those, it doesn't really make a difference/depends on you Qs.
I've been doing six hours a day for the past two weeks. Don't feel any burnout. However, those hours have to be dedicated and I usually cut myself off from the world for those six hours. I think most of the strain comes from jumping in and out of the work and when you're in the zone you're just pumped to do the next lesson/set/apt etc.

Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:12 pm
by Legally Spears
Is Master the LSAT (2012) any good? Perhaps as a substitute for Pithypike's Big Orange Book?

Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:45 pm
by bellateaa
Hi! Been reading these forum posts for a while and decided to join in. Despite the fact that I may be starting my LSAT prep too late (I'm really not sure), would you all suggest that my first step would be to do a diagnostic/cold test? I mean, will I be absolutely confused or what? <3

Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:56 pm
by Mikey
Drilled like 40ish hard flaw questions earlier and 30ish MBT questions a little bit ago.

Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:05 pm
by dj9i27
bellateaa wrote:Hi! Been reading these forum posts for a while and decided to join in. Despite the fact that I may be starting my LSAT prep too late (I'm really not sure), would you all suggest that my first step would be to do a diagnostic/cold test? I mean, will I be absolutely confused or what? <3
You are far from being late, I imagine most people won't start until March this is a thread of future gunners so far, so welcome.


First step, personally I would just read whatever prepbook you have right now and get yourself acclimated with the material then take a PT after a month or so.

Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:11 pm
by Saylor1720
bellateaa wrote:Hi! Been reading these forum posts for a while and decided to join in. Despite the fact that I may be starting my LSAT prep too late (I'm really not sure), would you all suggest that my first step would be to do a diagnostic/cold test? I mean, will I be absolutely confused or what? <3
A diagnostic wouldn't hurt you, but taking prep tests after a 4-6 weeks of going through a prep book will give you a much better idea of what you need to work on.

I did the first 5 lessons of the Trainer yesterday.

Earlier today, I drilled 20 flaw questions, and did an untimed LR section. Got 22/25. Not too bad, not great. The 3 I got wrong were: overthinking question 1, and the other two wrong I had narrowed down to two answers and picked the wrong one. Felt good getting back into it.

Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:44 pm
by dj9i27
going to try and muscle through to chapter 30 in the trainer, maybe drill 10ish questions as well since I feel okay and not angry at the world because of my early 20s angst.

Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:57 pm
by greatspirit
Didn't do any studying today, as I was sick. I'm also starting to get antsy about not having a full-time job atm. Really need to get back to work by March 7th/sometime in March.

Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:14 pm
by Legally Spears
Made it through about 20 pages in LGB, got anxious/antsy about a fellowship I'm working on and ended up doing a lot of busywork today. Printed out my drill sets, got a lot of smaller stuff taken care of. Tomorrow is a new day!

Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:35 pm
by aurelian
greatspirit wrote:Didn't do any studying today, as I was sick. I'm also starting to get antsy about not having a full-time job atm. Really need to get back to work by March 7th/sometime in March.
I felt this way too man. It's good to have work because it structures your time, but then this time you have to stay full time becomes even more vital. I had a few weeks off of work and saw my most progress in putting a lot of hours in during that time.Still time til June, but unfortunately not a ton of time.

Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:38 pm
by greatspirit
aurelian wrote:
greatspirit wrote:Didn't do any studying today, as I was sick. I'm also starting to get antsy about not having a full-time job atm. Really need to get back to work by March 7th/sometime in March.
I felt this way too man. It's good to have work because it structures your time, but then this time you have to stay full time becomes even more vital. I had a few weeks off of work and saw my most progress in putting a lot of hours in during that time.Still time til June, but unfortunately not a ton of time.
Yeah it's a slightly-stress inducing scenario haha - I want to go back to work, but all this off time is great for LSAT studying. I need to just get into a rhythm! Even with all this time, the best I can do is 90 mins a day.

Day by day, I suppose.

Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:51 pm
by dj9i27
greatspirit wrote:Didn't do any studying today, as I was sick. I'm also starting to get antsy about not having a full-time job atm. Really need to get back to work by March 7th/sometime in March.
I'm looking forward to getting back to work too it does get you into a good routine worst case is fatigue but preworkout exists. I'm a little anxious because this is my first, "Big Boy" job that doesn't entail telesales, gym front desk, warehouse attendee, etc. so I don't know exactly how it will go. One thing is for sure, it can't be as bad as telesales.

Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2017 3:15 pm
by PrezRand
Applied for graduation earlier this week. I need to start asking for my LORs. Now that senioritis has kicked in, all I need to worry about is the LSAT

Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2017 3:20 pm
by Mikey
PrezRand wrote:Applied for graduation earlier this week. I need to start asking for my LORs. Now that senioritis has kicked in, all I need to worry about is the LSAT
I applied for graduation a few weeks ago :mrgreen: We're almost at the finish line!

I already have 1 LOR, working on that 2nd one

Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2017 7:11 pm
by aurelian
Roasted. Took work off today and put 10 hours in -- if anyone wants to know, this is an awful idea and really burns you out. Will take tomorrow off.

Quick question about LoR to the wise -- if I don't have a good second LoR (I will probably pull something out of my ass eventually), I can pretty much count on being out at Yale? Does H care as much about LoR? I have a 4.1 gpa and hope to get 175+ but obviously that will have to wait and see.

Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2017 7:44 pm
by dj9i27
Mikey wrote:
PrezRand wrote:Applied for graduation earlier this week. I need to start asking for my LORs. Now that senioritis has kicked in, all I need to worry about is the LSAT
I applied for graduation a few weeks ago :mrgreen: We're almost at the finish line!

I already have 1 LOR, working on that 2nd one
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