The Official June 2017 Study Group

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby Mint-Berry_Crunch » Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:39 pm

Anyone got any baseless predictions for what kinda test we're having? I'm kinda feeling a hard games section, medium LR and hard rc

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby it's allgood » Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:41 pm

Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:I ate goat stew last night I think this counts as a goat sacrifice


Totally!

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby it's allgood » Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:52 pm

Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:
it's allgood wrote:
zkyggi wrote:
Neil_Gorsuch wrote:
Also, in my experience, reading the question before the stimulus is a bad, bad idea. The only possible exception is MP / Conclusion.


While it is probably too late for people to change their approach, I think stem first really helped me improve in LR. I really don't see any downside for people who understand the concepts. If someone is still conceptually weak, I could see some real issues with a stem first approach.


Yes, it helped me too! Someone on here suggested to me to read the stem first for RC and LR and I have been out of the 160s ever since I started doing that.


For RC?


Yes, for RC. I was at -5 to -8 and now I am at -2 consistently. I think it was someone on the September board that suggested it. It takes 30-45 sec for me to skim the questions and mark the passage: if there is a structure question about a particular paragraph--I mark that paragraph--or if it is about the passage I'll note that, a line # question--I will mark that, a question about the last paragraph (I immediately do to that one when I finish reading the passage)--I don't worry about main point, or primary purpose type questions until after I finish reading. And for inference questions, if there is something that I can note to pay attention to when reading, I will do that too. If it is an A & B passage, if there is a question only about one of the passages, I will mark that and go to that question right after reading the passage it is about. The time upfront saves me time in the end and I am more accurate. Also, the questions are then way less scary!! At least for me!

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby dm1683 » Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:55 pm

Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:Anyone got any baseless predictions for what kinda test we're having? I'm kinda feeling a hard games section, medium LR and hard rc


this is my worst nightmare, hello 168 and retake-land. :roll:

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby MediocreAtBest » Wed Jun 07, 2017 6:00 pm

Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:Anyone got any baseless predictions for what kinda test we're having? I'm kinda feeling a hard games section, medium LR and hard rc


Easy LG, easy LR, easy RC with a -14 curve.

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby Mint-Berry_Crunch » Wed Jun 07, 2017 6:08 pm

it's allgood wrote:
Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:
it's allgood wrote:
zkyggi wrote:
Neil_Gorsuch wrote:
Also, in my experience, reading the question before the stimulus is a bad, bad idea. The only possible exception is MP / Conclusion.


While it is probably too late for people to change their approach, I think stem first really helped me improve in LR. I really don't see any downside for people who understand the concepts. If someone is still conceptually weak, I could see some real issues with a stem first approach.


Yes, it helped me too! Someone on here suggested to me to read the stem first for RC and LR and I have been out of the 160s ever since I started doing that.


For RC?


Yes, for RC. I was at -5 to -8 and now I am at -2 consistently. I think it was someone on the September board that suggested it. It takes 30-45 sec for me to skim the questions and mark the passage: if there is a structure question about a particular paragraph--I mark that paragraph--or if it is about the passage I'll note that, a line # question--I will mark that, a question about the last paragraph (I immediately do to that one when I finish reading the passage)--I don't worry about main point, or primary purpose type questions until after I finish reading. And for inference questions, if there is something that I can note to pay attention to when reading, I will do that too. If it is an A & B passage, if there is a question only about one of the passages, I will mark that and go to that question right after reading the passage it is about. The time upfront saves me time in the end and I am more accurate. Also, the questions are then way less scary!! At least for me!


Interesting I've always wondered if this works! I might add a quick scan to my routine

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby Platopus » Wed Jun 07, 2017 6:39 pm

Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:Anyone got any baseless predictions for what kinda test we're having? I'm kinda feeling a hard games section, medium LR and hard rc


I really want a hard RC, a medium-hard LG, medium LR and easy-medium LR. Ideally RC LG LR LG (exp) LR 2, obviously experimental 5th would be best, but I'm sure this happens infrequently

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby Platopus » Wed Jun 07, 2017 6:40 pm

Had a horrible dream I scored a 169, and that the curve was a -7!!!

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby dm1683 » Wed Jun 07, 2017 6:48 pm

Platopus wrote:
Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:Anyone got any baseless predictions for what kinda test we're having? I'm kinda feeling a hard games section, medium LR and hard rc


I really want a hard RC, a medium-hard LG, medium LR and easy-medium LR. Ideally RC LG LR LG (exp) LR 2, obviously experimental 5th would be best, but I'm sure this happens infrequently


My ideal would be hard LR, medium-hard RC, easy LG (no weird games!), and medium LR with an LR experimental.

LG LR LR (exp) RC LR. With a -14 curve haha. I would need this kind of test to score 175+ and nab that ruby. Otherwise I will need to go to NU or Michigan or retake because UChi with 90k (what they'd probably give a 4.0/low 170s) still leaves me with 150-200k in debt. Can't have that.

Anyway, did two LR sections today from the late 40s, both -1. :D Really need a good score on 79 tomorrow, although I'm scared because it's a hard test from what I've heard. Review and do some LG sections Friday, 80 on Saturday, and gym/relax on Sunday.

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby Mint-Berry_Crunch » Wed Jun 07, 2017 7:04 pm

Postponed 79 bc just not feeling it.

Taking it after an all you can eat brunch on sat lol

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby zkyggi » Wed Jun 07, 2017 7:23 pm

Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:Anyone got any baseless predictions for what kinda test we're having? I'm kinda feeling a hard games section, medium LR and hard rc


If the 70s are any indication, I think there will be a hard LR section and a hard game. I'm praying for easy RC.
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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby Mint-Berry_Crunch » Wed Jun 07, 2017 7:28 pm

The past 2 June tests have been -10s


So that's a thing



Watch em come at us with a -7

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby Slippin' Jimmy » Wed Jun 07, 2017 7:37 pm

Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:Anyone got any baseless predictions for what kinda test we're having? I'm kinda feeling a hard games section, medium LR and hard rc


I'm hoping for standard yet moderately challenging games, hard LR (my LR is stable regardless of difficulty) and RC that has the first passage being an easy humanities with the hardest and second hardest being Law and Science respectively.

As for order, I've done any and all combinations so I don't have much of a preference but if I could pick: LR RC LR (Exp.) LR LG
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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby dm1683 » Wed Jun 07, 2017 7:40 pm

Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:The past 2 June tests have been -10s


So that's a thing



Watch em come at us with a -7


LOL then they'd better make all the games pure sequencing and take the RC out of high school textbooks.

Or maybe they switch it up and go with a -15. Drop some Hegelian philosophy on us in RC

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby Slippin' Jimmy » Wed Jun 07, 2017 7:42 pm

Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:The past 2 June tests have been -10s


So that's a thing



Watch em come at us with a -7


Takes for granted that a correlation between two variables indicates a causal relationship between two variables :wink:

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby Slippin' Jimmy » Wed Jun 07, 2017 8:59 pm

Upon blind review today I realized I made a bubbling mistake on C2 Question 1 of LR 2.............. and since there is no 177 possible this one, stupid mistake prevented me from getting a 178 :roll:

Guess I'm glad I didn't actually misunderstand the first question of a section, but man do I feel stupid. Good news is I scored 180 on BR!

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby Mint-Berry_Crunch » Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:25 pm

Slippin' Jimmy wrote:
Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:The past 2 June tests have been -10s


So that's a thing



Watch em come at us with a -7


Takes for granted that a correlation between two variables indicates a causal relationship between two variables :wink:


D) illicitly infers that,due to the frequency of a result, that result will continue

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby Mint-Berry_Crunch » Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:25 pm

I was doing some LR and a homeless person came in and had some really pleasant phone calls with herself


Without a phone

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby Walliums » Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:38 pm

MediocreAtBest wrote:
Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:Anyone got any baseless predictions for what kinda test we're having? I'm kinda feeling a hard games section, medium LR and hard rc


Easy LG, easy LR, easy RC with a -14 curve.


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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby Platopus » Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:52 pm

dm1683 wrote: Drop some Hegelian philosophy on us in RC


Yes, please.

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby heyduchess » Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:17 pm

MediocreAtBest wrote:
Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:Anyone got any baseless predictions for what kinda test we're having? I'm kinda feeling a hard games section, medium LR and hard rc


Easy LG, easy LR, easy RC with a -14 curve.


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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby heyduchess » Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:19 pm

My ideal is a skull-crushingly difficult RC because apparently I can't do any other kind, a hard LG, 3 LR's with one of them being fullll of "Solve the discrepancy" because I love those.

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby Future Ex-Engineer » Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:31 pm

Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:Anyone got any baseless predictions for what kinda test we're having? I'm kinda feeling a hard games section, medium LR and hard rc



Expectation: Hard RC, Easy LG, Medium LR1, Med/Hard LR2 11 point curve

Hope: Medium RC, Hard LG, Med/Hard LR1, Med LR2 12 point curve

Originally was hoping for early RC, but now IDC. Spent a lot of time soul searching after my week of -7/-8/-9 and realized I wasn't referring back to the passage enough. Thought it was due to sections being late in the test. Turns out it wasn't. Fixed that and have been -4 or better since.

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby Amerision » Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:04 pm

Just wanted to drop in and say....

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I WANT IT TO BE MONDAY, I'M FUCKIN READY M8 BUT I CAN'T WAIT MUCH LONGER!!!

That's all. Carry on.
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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby Slippin' Jimmy » Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:09 pm

Future Ex-Engineer wrote:
Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:Anyone got any baseless predictions for what kinda test we're having? I'm kinda feeling a hard games section, medium LR and hard rc



Expectation: Hard RC, Easy LG, Medium LR1, Med/Hard LR2 11 point curve

Hope: Medium RC, Hard LG, Med/Hard LR1, Med LR2 12 point curve

Originally was hoping for early RC, but now IDC. Spent a lot of time soul searching after my week of -7/-8/-9 and realized I wasn't referring back to the passage enough. Thought it was due to sections being late in the test. Turns out it wasn't. Fixed that and have been -4 or better since.


Hope your expectation is right! LG seems to be the only sections where my performance has any correlation to consensus difficulty. LR is just always the same no matter what and I have tended to do better on the "traditionally hard" RC sections while I've struggled on others that most find easy.



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