The Official June 2017 Study Group

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby Slippin' Jimmy » Mon May 15, 2017 3:25 pm

Amerision wrote:Out of curiosity, what score would you guys have to get to not make you want to retake? Mine would probably be 170+.

Also, I'm applying in Fall 2018. I have a few good professors right now who like me but I'm worried they won't remember enough about my work by Spring 2018 to write me a good rec. Should I ask them now? Ask a different professor later?


If I got a 170+ I would 100% not retake. 167 or below I 100% would. 168 I probably would, and 169 I'm really unsure.

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby Jack_Kelly » Mon May 15, 2017 3:44 pm

Slippin' Jimmy wrote:
Jack_Kelly wrote:I had to share this incredible PT
Score was a 166

LR1 -2
AR -13
LR2 -1
RC -2

Wonder where I should focus :lol:


This LG is where my diagnostic was. Drill games like no tomorrow using 7Sage perfection method, and pick up the LG Bible. My diagramming ended up being a hybrid between those two resources' methods so feel free to improvise to find what works best for you.

I think I will probably get the bible if nothing else. Thusfar my strategy has just been endless PTs (but I admittedly started studying far too recently)

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby Slippin' Jimmy » Mon May 15, 2017 3:45 pm

Jack_Kelly wrote:
Slippin' Jimmy wrote:
Jack_Kelly wrote:I had to share this incredible PT
Score was a 166

LR1 -2
AR -13
LR2 -1
RC -2

Wonder where I should focus :lol:


This LG is where my diagnostic was. Drill games like no tomorrow using 7Sage perfection method, and pick up the LG Bible. My diagramming ended up being a hybrid between those two resources' methods so feel free to improvise to find what works best for you.

I think I will probably get the bible if nothing else. Thusfar my strategy has just been endless PTs.


Do you watch the 7sage explanations on youtube? they are invaluable.

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby MediocreAtBest » Mon May 15, 2017 4:24 pm

Slippin' Jimmy wrote:
Do you watch the 7sage explanations on youtube? they are invaluable.


I've watched so many of those videos that sometimes when I'm doing LG I'll find myself explaining the question in that guy's voice in my head.

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby it's allgood » Mon May 15, 2017 4:42 pm

Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:it seems like the only Q type i consistency miss in RC are the ones like "“it can be inferred that the author would be most likely to describe the views of X mentioned in line Y as”. kinda annoying since they always feel really unfounded.


I used to think that at first, that they were unfounded, but found the answer is based on what the author has actually said in the passage. Anytime the author makes an argument, that is likely where those types of answers will be.

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby dm1683 » Mon May 15, 2017 5:10 pm

Another great PT today. Finished most sections (even LG!!!) with time to spare.

PT 67

RC: -2
LR1: -0
LG: -1
LR2: -1

177

Feeling great one month out. I'm seeing a lot of other high scores around here too. We're gonna kill that test!

Rock on everyone. 8)

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby InterLaw » Mon May 15, 2017 5:55 pm

I started a sort of "game". The goal would be trying to see what kind of awareness do I have after having taken a test, in order to build a sort of "error margin" around my self-perception of a test. I mean, after a test I try to predict how many questions I could have missed in each section, mostly based on how easy do I find a section and how much time / struggle do I need to complete that.

PT 54 today:

LR1: -2 (-2 predicted)
LR2: -1 (-2 predicted)
RC: -5 (-5 predicted // time struggles as always, got wrong the last 3 questions..)
LG: -0 (-0 predicted)

Score: 172 (171 predicted)

This repeated to every test is meant to give my the error margin perception/actual score, to be used after the test day. It is probably absolutely useless your perception in there is kinda distorted.
Anyway, I like to do that, and it could in some way alleviate the month before the results... Or maybe worsen it... Don't know bruh, I just have so many inferences in my head I don't feel lucid anymore :shock:

29 days to landing :mrgreen:

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby Future Ex-Engineer » Mon May 15, 2017 6:10 pm

InterLaw wrote:I started a sort of "game". The goal would be trying to see what kind of awareness do I have after having taken a test, in order to build a sort of "error margin" around my self-perception of a test. I mean, after a test I try to predict how many questions I could have missed in each section, mostly based on how easy do I find a section and how much time / struggle do I need to complete that.

PT 54 today:

LR1: -2 (-2 predicted)
LR2: -1 (-2 predicted)
RC: -5 (-5 predicted // time struggles as always, got wrong the last 3 questions..)
LG: -0 (-0 predicted)

Score: 172 (171 predicted)

This repeated to every test is meant to give my the error margin perception/actual score, to be used after the test day. It is probably absolutely useless your perception in there is kinda distorted.
Anyway, I like to do that, and it could in some way alleviate the month before the results... Or maybe worsen it... Don't know bruh, I just have so many inferences in my head I don't feel lucid anymore :shock:

29 days to landing :mrgreen:


Didn't know anyone else did this haha...So I actually think there is some merit to this - not necessarily from a 'doing better' standpoint, but from a not being super anxious waiting for scores to come out perspective.
I actually predicted my exact score on Dec 16. I figured best case scenario (i.e. I got like half of the ones I had to guess on right) I'd land with a 170, but felt that a 168 was probably right on the money since I figured to get somewhere around 20% of the guesses correct. I ended up getting a couple guesses correct, but missed 1 or 2 that I thought I had done correctly. Ended up squarely on a 168. If nothing else, it was pretty funny to know that I had accurately assessed my performance.

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby Platopus » Mon May 15, 2017 6:46 pm

Future Ex-Engineer wrote:
InterLaw wrote:I started a sort of "game". The goal would be trying to see what kind of awareness do I have after having taken a test, in order to build a sort of "error margin" around my self-perception of a test. I mean, after a test I try to predict how many questions I could have missed in each section, mostly based on how easy do I find a section and how much time / struggle do I need to complete that.

PT 54 today:

LR1: -2 (-2 predicted)
LR2: -1 (-2 predicted)
RC: -5 (-5 predicted // time struggles as always, got wrong the last 3 questions..)
LG: -0 (-0 predicted)

Score: 172 (171 predicted)

This repeated to every test is meant to give my the error margin perception/actual score, to be used after the test day. It is probably absolutely useless your perception in there is kinda distorted.
Anyway, I like to do that, and it could in some way alleviate the month before the results... Or maybe worsen it... Don't know bruh, I just have so many inferences in my head I don't feel lucid anymore :shock:

29 days to landing :mrgreen:


Didn't know anyone else did this haha...So I actually think there is some merit to this - not necessarily from a 'doing better' standpoint, but from a not being super anxious waiting for scores to come out perspective.
I actually predicted my exact score on Dec 16. I figured best case scenario (i.e. I got like half of the ones I had to guess on right) I'd land with a 170, but felt that a 168 was probably right on the money since I figured to get somewhere around 20% of the guesses correct. I ended up getting a couple guesses correct, but missed 1 or 2 that I thought I had done correctly. Ended up squarely on a 168. If nothing else, it was pretty funny to know that I had accurately assessed my performance.


I'm usually pretty spot on with my guesses, especially LG and LR. RC is a bit more guesswork, but I still have a pretty good idea if I messed anything up.

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby Platopus » Mon May 15, 2017 6:48 pm

dm1683 wrote:Another great PT today. Finished most sections (even LG!!!) with time to spare.

PT 67

RC: -2
LR1: -0
LG: -1
LR2: -1

177

Feeling great one month out. I'm seeing a lot of other high scores around here too. We're gonna kill that test!

Rock on everyone. 8)


Baller! Keep it up!

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby Walliums » Mon May 15, 2017 6:53 pm

Amerision wrote:Out of curiosity, what score would you guys have to get to not make you want to retake? Mine would probably be 170+


169 and below would retake. Would consider retaking at 170, maaaaybe a little consideration at 171, 172+ would not retake. 173+ will guarantee tears of joy

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby Walliums » Mon May 15, 2017 6:54 pm

Took PT 75 this afternoon and I don't wanna grade it because I am afraid... :?

Also, are any of you saving specific tests in the event you need to retake?

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby Platopus » Mon May 15, 2017 7:01 pm

Walliums wrote:Took PT 75 this afternoon and I don't wanna grade it because I am afraid... :?

Also, are any of you saving specific tests in the event you need to retake?


I'm saving 72-76 in case a retake is necessary, also probably some of the late 50's for drilling.

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby anonposter6775 » Mon May 15, 2017 7:23 pm

NavyNuke wrote:PT 67 today. Got a 170.

RC: -4
LR1: -1
LG: -3
LR: -2

The first game in LG threw me off. I didn't know how to diagram the game and it took me WAY too much time to work my way through the questions. Had to guess on two questions on the last game because I ran out of time. Haven't been over -2 on LG in a while :oops: but staying in the 170s is good. If I can keep RC under -5 I think I will be ok.

I think 168+ plus and I won't retake. Hopefully a score above that, military experience, and a 3.84 can produce some good options.



I took the same test today and got a 151 (about average for me, but I'm hoping to do much better on game day). Any tips on being more consistent with LR?

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby Walliums » Mon May 15, 2017 8:01 pm

Platopus wrote:
Walliums wrote:Took PT 75 this afternoon and I don't wanna grade it because I am afraid... :?

Also, are any of you saving specific tests in the event you need to retake?


I'm saving 72-76 in case a retake is necessary, also probably some of the late 50's for drilling.


Hey, I saw in another thread you said you spend about 3+ hours reviewing a single test. Would you mind sharing an overview of your process?

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby Walliums » Mon May 15, 2017 8:05 pm

I bit the bullet and graded PT 75, skipped blind review (but will give it a real review later). I did great in LR (for me!) but RC... I thought you loved me...

PT 75: 171

LR1: -1
RC: -6 :cry:
LR2: -2
LG: 0

At least LG is there for me. Had a weird time with that section (I really hate when it is last. I also hate when it is first) had the most trouble with the second game with the trees...

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby dm1683 » Mon May 15, 2017 8:06 pm

anonposter6775 wrote:
NavyNuke wrote:PT 67 today. Got a 170.

RC: -4
LR1: -1
LG: -3
LR: -2

The first game in LG threw me off. I didn't know how to diagram the game and it took me WAY too much time to work my way through the questions. Had to guess on two questions on the last game because I ran out of time. Haven't been over -2 on LG in a while :oops: but staying in the 170s is good. If I can keep RC under -5 I think I will be ok.

I think 168+ plus and I won't retake. Hopefully a score above that, military experience, and a 3.84 can produce some good options.



I took the same test today and got a 151 (about average for me, but I'm hoping to do much better on game day). Any tips on being more consistent with LR?

Lol that makes three of us on 67. We must have a mind meld going on.


Hey navy maybe you shouldn't do the games in order. I try to do the harder ones first. On this LG section that was the fourth game about the zones. So I did that one first and worked backwards. I finished with a few minutes to spare and went -1, and I'm pretty weak at games (I average -2).

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby dm1683 » Mon May 15, 2017 8:08 pm

Walliums wrote:
Platopus wrote:
Walliums wrote:Took PT 75 this afternoon and I don't wanna grade it because I am afraid... :?

Also, are any of you saving specific tests in the event you need to retake?


I'm saving 72-76 in case a retake is necessary, also probably some of the late 50's for drilling.


Hey, I saw in another thread you said you spend about 3+ hours reviewing a single test. Would you mind sharing an overview of your process?


:shock: Jesus plato is one dedicated mfer. Perfect fit for chicago.

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby zkyggi » Mon May 15, 2017 9:00 pm

Walliums wrote:
Also, are any of you saving specific tests in the event you need to retake?


I'm not saving any. I just want to go all in on take one. Also, retaking PTs seems to be perfectly good practice. I think the only downside is that you don't have a fresh PT to calm your nerves (or send you into a state of panic) before the retake.
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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby Slippin' Jimmy » Mon May 15, 2017 9:08 pm

zkyggi wrote:
Walliums wrote:
Also, are any of you saving specific tests in the event you need to retake?


I'm not saving any. I just want to go all in on take one. Also, retaking PTs seems to be perfectly good practice. I think the only downside is that you don't have a fresh PT to calm your nerves (or send you into a state of panic) before the retake.


This. I'm sure there will be some older PTs with sections that I don't do (I use the pre 50s tests solely for Experimentals and drilling problem areas) but if I have to retake I'm sure I can just do some of my used PTs again. No way I remember all that much, except for maybe a couple of brutal games (Looking at you dinosaur game...),

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby Slippin' Jimmy » Mon May 15, 2017 9:15 pm

anonposter6775 wrote:
NavyNuke wrote:PT 67 today. Got a 170.

RC: -4
LR1: -1
LG: -3
LR: -2

The first game in LG threw me off. I didn't know how to diagram the game and it took me WAY too much time to work my way through the questions. Had to guess on two questions on the last game because I ran out of time. Haven't been over -2 on LG in a while :oops: but staying in the 170s is good. If I can keep RC under -5 I think I will be ok.

I think 168+ plus and I won't retake. Hopefully a score above that, military experience, and a 3.84 can produce some good options.



I took the same test today and got a 151 (about average for me, but I'm hoping to do much better on game day). Any tips on being more consistent with LR?


I haven't gotten over 3 wrong in a while, so I'd say its easily my most consistent section. I learned it by working through the trainer and following the Trainer's 12 week study schedule which I abandoned about halfway through so I could customize towards my strengths and weakness and use outside resources (RC and LR the trainer was great but I found LG to be lacking). I did all the drills as prescribed, and I also got a hold of a retired version of Kim's schedule that uses older PTs, which includes drill sets that I use to hone in on problem areas. For example, last couple weeks I was doing uncharacteristically poorly on strengthen and SA questions, so I reviewed the trainer lessons and then worked through drill sets in the retired version of the schedule.

If you or anyone else wants a copy of the retired schedule PM me, its useful just for the LR drill sets even if you don't use the trainer. Alternatively, you can email Mike Kim directly, which is how I got it.

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby zkyggi » Mon May 15, 2017 9:23 pm

Slippin' Jimmy wrote:
zkyggi wrote:
Walliums wrote:
Also, are any of you saving specific tests in the event you need to retake?


I'm not saving any. I just want to go all in on take one. Also, retaking PTs seems to be perfectly good practice. I think the only downside is that you don't have a fresh PT to calm your nerves (or send you into a state of panic) before the retake.


This. I'm sure there will be some older PTs with sections that I don't do (I use the pre 50s tests solely for Experimentals and drilling problem areas) but if I have to retake I'm sure I can just do some of my used PTs again. No way I remember all that much, except for maybe a couple of brutal games (Looking at you dinosaur game...),


I've redone PTs, and a month separation makes them fair game for me again, especially since I started in-depth review fairly late in my process.
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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby zkyggi » Mon May 15, 2017 10:08 pm

Anybody making nutritional changes for June?
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