The Official June 2017 Study Group

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby Platopus » Fri May 12, 2017 12:25 am

Slippin' Jimmy wrote:I know most of you guys on here have been perfect/near perfect on LG for a while, but this is a pretty big milestone for me. Scoring in this range in LG is critical to solidify myself in the 170s since I won't have to lean as heavily on LR/RC as I have been up to this point.


Progress is progress. Keep it up. Hopefully this is the breakthrough!

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby poi543 » Fri May 12, 2017 1:53 am

Hi,
I am feeling very conflicted about whether I should postpone. Any advice/intuitions would be GREATLY appreciated:

Just took practice test and with one month left am scoring 160. I need at least 165 to feel ok applying.

On GREs I got 98 percentile RC 78 percentile math 99 percentile writing

On lsat, have been mostly studying logic games (-14 on baseline, nowadays -5 through -9, most often -7).
RC -4 on average, LR -6 -7 ish depending? havent focused much on LR or RC in terms of studying though

should mention i've started studying mid to end march. it's been hard to balance cuz am in a phd program at the same time. but this is irrelevant. but potentially a bit more free time during the summer since I don't have classes then.

Is it possible to considerably improve in a month or is this unlikely? Apologies if this has been asked before, but I would really appreciate some input if anyone has any suggestions or personal experience with this type of situation.

Thanks so much :)

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby InterLaw » Fri May 12, 2017 5:55 am

poi543 wrote:Hi,
I am feeling very conflicted about whether I should postpone. Any advice/intuitions would be GREATLY appreciated:

Just took practice test and with one month left am scoring 160. I need at least 165 to feel ok applying.

On GREs I got 98 percentile RC 78 percentile math 99 percentile writing

On lsat, have been mostly studying logic games (-14 on baseline, nowadays -5 through -9, most often -7).
RC -4 on average, LR -6 -7 ish depending? havent focused much on LR or RC in terms of studying though

should mention i've started studying mid to end march. it's been hard to balance cuz am in a phd program at the same time. but this is irrelevant. but potentially a bit more free time during the summer since I don't have classes then.

Is it possible to considerably improve in a month or is this unlikely? Apologies if this has been asked before, but I would really appreciate some input if anyone has any suggestions or personal experience with this type of situation.

Thanks so much :)


I'd say go for September. You just have to take that LG down to 0 and you are alright. You can do that in 2 months of regular exercise following 7sage tips and videos. Guaranteed. Work on that, and you are on a 165!

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby poi543 » Fri May 12, 2017 10:15 am

InterLaw wrote:
poi543 wrote:I'd say go for September. You just have to take that LG down to 0 and you are alright. You can do that in 2 months of regular exercise following 7sage tips and videos. Guaranteed. Work on that, and you are on a 165!


Yeah I probably should shoot higher than 165 too. school I'm looking at median score is 168. I'm not sure if -0 on LG can happen (again, baseline was -14 lol). LR and RC more confident in, since I've done very minimal studying for those and doing ok...I loveeeee RC so maybe can try and bring that one down
Thank you :)

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby Mikey » Fri May 12, 2017 10:23 am

poi543 wrote:I'm not sure if -0 on LG can happen (again, baseline was -14 lol).

if it means anything, I got like basically no LG questions right on my diagnostic and I can easily go -0/-1 on LG now. It's the easiest section to learn, it's not that bad once you learn the different game boards! Something that may prevent you from -0'ing the section on test day is a weird game, but even then you should still have an idea of how to approach weird games if one shows up.

Put in the work, and it will pay off, trust me!

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby MediocreAtBest » Fri May 12, 2017 11:17 am

poi543 wrote:Hi,
I am feeling very conflicted about whether I should postpone. Any advice/intuitions would be GREATLY appreciated:

Just took practice test and with one month left am scoring 160. I need at least 165 to feel ok applying.

On GREs I got 98 percentile RC 78 percentile math 99 percentile writing

On lsat, have been mostly studying logic games (-14 on baseline, nowadays -5 through -9, most often -7).
RC -4 on average, LR -6 -7 ish depending? havent focused much on LR or RC in terms of studying though

should mention i've started studying mid to end march. it's been hard to balance cuz am in a phd program at the same time. but this is irrelevant. but potentially a bit more free time during the summer since I don't have classes then.

Is it possible to considerably improve in a month or is this unlikely? Apologies if this has been asked before, but I would really appreciate some input if anyone has any suggestions or personal experience with this type of situation.

Thanks so much :)


I'd say definitely postpone and don't sell yourself short. 3 months of studying while in a phd program probably isn't enough to get you to where you'd like to ideally be. You could get to a 165 in the next month but why not take the extra time and really get it down and hit 170, you're losing nothing and potentially gaining a lot ($$$) by waiting until September.

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby Slippin' Jimmy » Fri May 12, 2017 11:18 am

poi543 wrote:
InterLaw wrote:
poi543 wrote:I'd say go for September. You just have to take that LG down to 0 and you are alright. You can do that in 2 months of regular exercise following 7sage tips and videos. Guaranteed. Work on that, and you are on a 165!


Yeah I probably should shoot higher than 165 too. school I'm looking at median score is 168. I'm not sure if -0 on LG can happen (again, baseline was -14 lol). LR and RC more confident in, since I've done very minimal studying for those and doing ok...I loveeeee RC so maybe can try and bring that one down
Thank you :)


You really don't have enough time for June, I started in January and I'm just starting to score where I'm comfortable.

Also, the goal should always be 180.

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby Walliums » Fri May 12, 2017 1:04 pm

archer grandpapy360 wrote:Wow I did pretty dog shit on that last PT. Time to take a couple days off and recharge.

We've all been there <3 Just don't slap the bag too much while you're recharging

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby it's allgood » Fri May 12, 2017 1:21 pm

poi543 wrote:Hi,
I am feeling very conflicted about whether I should postpone. Any advice/intuitions would be GREATLY appreciated:

Just took practice test and with one month left am scoring 160. I need at least 165 to feel ok applying.

On GREs I got 98 percentile RC 78 percentile math 99 percentile writing

On lsat, have been mostly studying logic games (-14 on baseline, nowadays -5 through -9, most often -7).
RC -4 on average, LR -6 -7 ish depending? havent focused much on LR or RC in terms of studying though

should mention i've started studying mid to end march. it's been hard to balance cuz am in a phd program at the same time. but this is irrelevant. but potentially a bit more free time during the summer since I don't have classes then.

Is it possible to considerably improve in a month or is this unlikely? Apologies if this has been asked before, but I would really appreciate some input if anyone has any suggestions or personal experience with this type of situation.

Thanks so much :)


Does your school where you are doing your phd have a law school? You may want to check out if they have a JD/PhD. If so it, may be possible to apply even if you are already in the PhD program and to complete both degrees sooner than doing them separately.

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby Slippin' Jimmy » Fri May 12, 2017 2:53 pm

Does anyone else seem to always do worst on your first "reading" section of a PT, regardless of whether its in LR or RC, or of its difficulty rating on 7sage? Over my last several PTs I've noticed my first section is always my worst, scoring -3 to -5 in LR or -5+ in RC, but the other three non LG sections end up being much lower. I've also noticed that this applies to doing timed sections as well, the first one I do in a day is always my worst.

Any suggestions on how to combat this? Its almost like I need a warm up section before I start scoring at my best. I really noticed this today when I collectively scored PT 58 which I divided up into individual sections that I completed throughout the last couple weeks that were taken before I did anything else, had -4 and -5 on LR and -5 on RC, which combined with my -1 on games gives me a 167 (ew). These LR sections in particular are really high for me, and its frustrating to see any kind of slip here while I'm finally picking up ground in games.

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Postby Mint-Berry_Crunch » Fri May 12, 2017 2:57 pm

Slippin' Jimmy wrote:Does anyone else seem to always do worst on your first "reading" section of a PT, regardless of whether its in LR or RC, or of its difficulty rating on 7sage? Over my last several PTs I've noticed my first section is always my worst, scoring -3 to -5 in LR or -5+ in RC, but the other three non LG sections end up being much lower. I've also noticed that this applies to doing timed sections as well, the first one I do in a day is always my worst.

Any suggestions on how to combat this? Its almost like I need a warm up section before I start scoring at my best. I really noticed this today when I collectively scored PT 58 which I divided up into individual sections that I completed throughout the last couple weeks that were taken before I did anything else, had -4 and -5 on LR and -5 on RC, which combined with my -1 on games gives me a 167 (ew). These LR sections in particular are really high for me, and its frustrating to see any kind of slip here while I'm finally picking up ground in games.


This is common and yes TCR is to do a warm up. If you're going to PT it's good to do a couple passage, a couple games, and like 10 LRs

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby Walliums » Fri May 12, 2017 3:56 pm

Took sections from PT 50 over the week this week. Felt like I had crushed it but the curve tells me otherwise... Maybe a lot of my recent PTs have had a really big curve:

PT 50: 172

LR1: -3
LR2: -2
LG: 0
RC: -3

I know I should be feeling good about being in the 170s but I can't help feeling a bit bad that they aren't higher. At least there is a month left to go...

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby Mint-Berry_Crunch » Fri May 12, 2017 4:18 pm

NavyNuke wrote:
Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:
Slippin' Jimmy wrote:Does anyone else seem to always do worst on your first "reading" section of a PT, regardless of whether its in LR or RC, or of its difficulty rating on 7sage? Over my last several PTs I've noticed my first section is always my worst, scoring -3 to -5 in LR or -5+ in RC, but the other three non LG sections end up being much lower. I've also noticed that this applies to doing timed sections as well, the first one I do in a day is always my worst.

Any suggestions on how to combat this? Its almost like I need a warm up section before I start scoring at my best. I really noticed this today when I collectively scored PT 58 which I divided up into individual sections that I completed throughout the last couple weeks that were taken before I did anything else, had -4 and -5 on LR and -5 on RC, which combined with my -1 on games gives me a 167 (ew). These LR sections in particular are really high for me, and its frustrating to see any kind of slip here while I'm finally picking up ground in games.


This is common and yes TCR is to do a warm up. If you're going to PT it's good to do a couple passage, a couple games, and like 10 LRs


Warmup helped me. Don't know how this is gonna play out on test day. Do a few questions in the car before walking in and hope I am still ready to go by the time we start I guess.


lol I did mine in the hallway. Some people were really confused

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby MediocreAtBest » Fri May 12, 2017 4:22 pm

Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:
lol I did mine in the hallway. Some people were really confused


Lol, a few years ago I would've rolled my eyes at you. Now, I am going to be the guy warming up in the hallway.

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby Mikey » Fri May 12, 2017 4:23 pm

MediocreAtBest wrote:
Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:
lol I did mine in the hallway. Some people were really confused


Lol, a few years ago I would've rolled my eyes at you. Now, I am going to be the guy warming up in the hallway.

fuck what people think. always do you!

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby poi543 » Fri May 12, 2017 4:36 pm

Thank you all so much for your input, i really really appreciate it, you have no idea how helpful this is. No one i know is law track, so it's been a bit difficult to find good sources of input. I will put off til September, and drill into LG and LR more.

Does your school where you are doing your phd have a law school? You may want to check out if they have a JD/PhD. If so it, may be possible to apply even if you are already in the PhD program and to complete both degrees sooner than doing them separately.


Yep it does! I'm applying to the dual program at the school i'm currently doing phd in. I was hoping they would be more lenient on LSAT scores because of this, but this is likely wishful thinking, as their average scores are in the 170s for admitted... blah

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Postby Mint-Berry_Crunch » Fri May 12, 2017 4:42 pm

poi543 wrote:Thank you all so much for your input, i really really appreciate it, you have no idea how helpful this is. No one i know is law track, so it's been a bit difficult to find good sources of input. I will put off til September, and drill into LG and LR more.

Does your school where you are doing your phd have a law school? You may want to check out if they have a JD/PhD. If so it, may be possible to apply even if you are already in the PhD program and to complete both degrees sooner than doing them separately.


Yep it does! I'm applying to the dual program at the school i'm currently doing phd in. I was hoping they would be more lenient on LSAT scores because of this, but this is likely wishful thinking, as their average scores are in the 170s for admitted... blah


Sounds like you'd wind up at a good school tho so worth it


You'll be set if you just focus on LR/LG, 170 isn't out of reach

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby Mint-Berry_Crunch » Fri May 12, 2017 4:44 pm

Mikey wrote:
MediocreAtBest wrote:
Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:
lol I did mine in the hallway. Some people were really confused


Lol, a few years ago I would've rolled my eyes at you. Now, I am going to be the guy warming up in the hallway.

fuck what people think. always do you!


I usually try and talk to people/socialize (recruit people to drink) but I think this time I'm going full gunner.

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby Mikey » Fri May 12, 2017 5:22 pm

Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:
Mikey wrote:
MediocreAtBest wrote:
Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:
lol I did mine in the hallway. Some people were really confused


Lol, a few years ago I would've rolled my eyes at you. Now, I am going to be the guy warming up in the hallway.

fuck what people think. always do you!


I usually try and talk to people/socialize (recruit people to drink) but I think this time I'm going full gunner.

I think I'm just gonna talk to the person behind or in front of me like I did for my 2 other takes. I remember when I told a chick that I had studied for about 5 months, she was like "WHAT?? I studied for about a month but like 2 times a week after work ". Bet you she scored way fucking higher than I did.

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby zkyggi » Fri May 12, 2017 5:33 pm

poi543 wrote:Hi,
I am feeling very conflicted about whether I should postpone. Any advice/intuitions would be GREATLY appreciated:

Just took practice test and with one month left am scoring 160. I need at least 165 to feel ok applying.

On GREs I got 98 percentile RC 78 percentile math 99 percentile writing

On lsat, have been mostly studying logic games (-14 on baseline, nowadays -5 through -9, most often -7).
RC -4 on average, LR -6 -7 ish depending? havent focused much on LR or RC in terms of studying though

should mention i've started studying mid to end march. it's been hard to balance cuz am in a phd program at the same time. but this is irrelevant. but potentially a bit more free time during the summer since I don't have classes then.

Is it possible to considerably improve in a month or is this unlikely? Apologies if this has been asked before, but I would really appreciate some input if anyone has any suggestions or personal experience with this type of situation.

Thanks so much :)


Can you make that improvement within a month? Absolutely.

Should you postpone the exam? Barring any extenuating circumstances that prevent you from taking it in September, absolutely.

It is better to walk into the test wanting a 165 and PTing at 168 than it is to want a 165 and be PTing at 165 the day of.
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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby Future Ex-Engineer » Fri May 12, 2017 5:35 pm

About to go take PT 62. Feeling good after my review of the questions I missed on 61 Wednesday.

Will report later with results.

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby MediocreAtBest » Fri May 12, 2017 7:53 pm

Mikey wrote:
I usually try and talk to people/socialize (recruit people to drink) but I think this time I'm going full gunner.
I think I'm just gonna talk to the person behind or in front of me like I did for my 2 other takes. I remember when I told a chick that I had studied for about 5 months, she was like "WHAT?? I studied for about a month but like 2 times a week after work ". Bet you she scored way fucking higher than I did.


Sometimes I forget that the vast majority of people are more like that girl than they are like the people on TLS.



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