The Official June 2017 Study Group

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DOLPHINS, ARE YOU READY TO CRUSH THIS TEST?

Poll ended at Fri Jun 30, 2017 11:54 pm

FU%# YES!!!
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28%
F#$k YES!!!
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FEAR MY BOTTLE SHAPED NOSE!!!
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Total votes: 39

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby InterLaw » Wed May 03, 2017 9:33 am

archer grandpapy360 wrote:
InterLaw wrote:
archer grandpapy360 wrote:Does anybody have cool post test Summer plans?


Harvard Summer School in Venice for me, June to August :| "work hard play hard".
And with the Master starting in September, not very much holiday for the third year in a row :mrgreen: !


The Boston/Cambridge area is so cool! Especially during the summer. It does sound like a lot of work, but there are worse places to be grinding out a summer.


Actually it will be held in Venice (ITA): it's a study abroad period for Harvard guys and faculty, and a good opportunity for some Italian student!

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby Amerision » Wed May 03, 2017 10:53 am

Sometimes, this test just destroys me. Took PT 77 yesterday and after a 5-PT average of 172, I ended up with a 165. I have no idea what happened. I'm probably overworked and burned out, so I'm going to take a few days off and then review it, but it's so damn frustrating. Have never felt this way about a test before.
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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby Mikey » Wed May 03, 2017 11:13 am

Amerision wrote:Sometimes, this test just destroys me. Took PT 77 yesterday and after a 5-PT average of 172, I ended up with a 165. I have no idea what happened. I'm probably overworked and burned out, so I'm going to take a few days off and then review it, but it's so damn frustrating. Have never felt this way about a test before.

it happens. those days off will do well, trust me.

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby MediocreAtBest » Wed May 03, 2017 11:20 am

Amerision wrote:Sometimes, this test just destroys me. Took PT 77 yesterday and after a 5-PT average of 172, I ended up with a 165. I have no idea what happened. I'm probably overworked and burned out, so I'm going to take a few days off and then review it, but it's so damn frustrating. Have never felt this way about a test before.


I bombed my last test too (164). And you're right, it's super frustrating to study for a test for so damn long and still be able to mess up. Anxiety starts to set in, because even though we've been getting 170+, obviously we're also capable of totally screwing up. If I end up bombing in June I'm going to be soooooo pissed.

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby twiix » Wed May 03, 2017 11:39 am

Platopus wrote:About to drill a huge stacked of PR questions :( Sorting through the sections for PR questions is arguably just as bad as doing the damn questions in the first place...


Studying related question .. when you stack up a difficult group of questions you know you struggle with, what is your strategy? Do you do them timed? If so, what sort of timing do you give yourself? If they are the hardest questions of the hardest types, you would obviously allocate longer than average on a real timed PT. If you don't time, do you basically just handle them similar to BR? Do it untimed, write all explanations out, do whatever is within your power to figure it out? I haven't gotten this far yet so I'd like to know how to handle these before I do get there :D

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby Mikey » Wed May 03, 2017 11:49 am

TWiiX wrote:
Platopus wrote:About to drill a huge stacked of PR questions :( Sorting through the sections for PR questions is arguably just as bad as doing the damn questions in the first place...


Studying related question .. when you stack up a difficult group of questions you know you struggle with, what is your strategy? Do you do them timed? If so, what sort of timing do you give yourself? If they are the hardest questions of the hardest types, you would obviously allocate longer than average on a real timed PT. If you don't time, do you basically just handle them similar to BR? Do it untimed, write all explanations out, do whatever is within your power to figure it out? I haven't gotten this far yet so I'd like to know how to handle these before I do get there :D

u should be doing them un-timed as if you were blind reviewing them so you can figure things out 100%, especially if it's a Q type you struggle with

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby Amerision » Wed May 03, 2017 11:51 am

MediocreAtBest wrote:
Amerision wrote:Sometimes, this test just destroys me. Took PT 77 yesterday and after a 5-PT average of 172, I ended up with a 165. I have no idea what happened. I'm probably overworked and burned out, so I'm going to take a few days off and then review it, but it's so damn frustrating. Have never felt this way about a test before.


I bombed my last test too (164). And you're right, it's super frustrating to study for a test for so damn long and still be able to mess up. Anxiety starts to set in, because even though we've been getting 170+, obviously we're also capable of totally screwing up. If I end up bombing in June I'm going to be soooooo pissed.


You really put into words how I'm feeling. I have to say here's to hoping we do well, but it's unfortunate, because we've been working too hard to just hope for it.
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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby MediocreAtBest » Wed May 03, 2017 12:49 pm

Surprised a group of people this past weekend when I said that law school isn't that special or super hard to get into, and that it's not a good investment in most cases. I guess "law school = good and smart" is still a general opinion of it, and probably useful if you're trying to impress a girl's parents.

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby zkyggi » Wed May 03, 2017 1:41 pm

Amerision wrote:Sometimes, this test just destroys me. Took PT 77 yesterday and after a 5-PT average of 172, I ended up with a 165. I have no idea what happened. I'm probably overworked and burned out, so I'm going to take a few days off and then review it, but it's so damn frustrating. Have never felt this way about a test before.



Don't let one test get you down. Your average was your average for a reason. I'm willing to bet that when you review it, it'll have quite a few mistakes you wouldn't normally make.
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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby calmike » Wed May 03, 2017 4:48 pm

I took PT 62 on Sunday Morning.

Score: 171

RC: 23/27 -4
LR1: 21/26 -5
LG: 22/23 -1
LR2: 23/26 -3

According to 7Sage after taking 4 PTs, my average LSAT score is a 170. I hope I score a 170 when I take the test in June. Starting tomorrow, I will begin taking 5-section Pt's. Hopefully I get to score even higher haha. I am taking 2 PT's a week until June LSAT.

I usually get 0 in LG but this PT's LG section was tough!

I do pretty ok with LR and RC.

How should I drill in between PTs. I probably will drill LR Flaws, Psuedosufficient Ass, and Necessary Ass. since that the type that I frequently miss more.

Not really sure how to study for RC. I will probably drill passages too in the days between PTs.

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby Platopus » Wed May 03, 2017 6:28 pm

Mikey wrote:
TWiiX wrote:
Platopus wrote:About to drill a huge stacked of PR questions :( Sorting through the sections for PR questions is arguably just as bad as doing the damn questions in the first place...


Studying related question .. when you stack up a difficult group of questions you know you struggle with, what is your strategy? Do you do them timed? If so, what sort of timing do you give yourself? If they are the hardest questions of the hardest types, you would obviously allocate longer than average on a real timed PT. If you don't time, do you basically just handle them similar to BR? Do it untimed, write all explanations out, do whatever is within your power to figure it out? I haven't gotten this far yet so I'd like to know how to handle these before I do get there :D

u should be doing them un-timed as if you were blind reviewing them so you can figure things out 100%, especially if it's a Q type you struggle with


I agree, my intent is to do them untimed, although I want to keep a reasonable pace in mind. Each page also has 1-2 other, non-PR questions that I plan to do. This should help me keep up on other Q types, while still hitting PR every 3rd question or so.

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby Platopus » Wed May 03, 2017 10:33 pm

I'm at the point where the test is no longer about getting into law school, I want to conquer this thing for it's own sake. I will be thoroughly disappointed with anything less than a 180; -0. Not because I'm anywhere near that level of mastery, but because anything less is conceding a point to my nemesis; every point is just a big finger pointing and laughing at me. I spent 2 hours drilling PR questions, thoroughly diagramming each and every answer. Took a LR section afterwards, and the only question I missed was a PR question. Like damn. Even more frustrating, I missed the damn question because I didn't thoroughly read answer E. I crossed it out on my first pass through and spent 2 minutes debating between two wrong AC's. How embarrassing is that? I feel like the test was just sitting there mocking me, laughing in quiet as I debated two wrong answers.

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby Mint-Berry_Crunch » Wed May 03, 2017 10:54 pm

Platopus wrote:I'm at the point where the test is no longer about getting into law school, I want to conquer this thing for it's own sake. I will be thoroughly disappointed with anything less than a 180; -0. Not because I'm anywhere near that level of mastery, but because anything less is conceding a point to my nemesis; every point is just a big finger pointing and laughing at me. I spent 2 hours drilling PR questions, thoroughly diagramming each and every answer. Took a LR section afterwards, and the only question I missed was a PR question. Like damn. Even more frustrating, I missed the damn question because I didn't thoroughly read answer E. I crossed it out on my first pass through and spent 2 minutes debating between two wrong AC's. How embarrassing is that? I feel like the test was just sitting there mocking me, laughing in quiet as I debated two wrong answers.

The test doesn't beat me, I beat me

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby Platopus » Thu May 04, 2017 12:27 am

archer grandpapy360 wrote:
Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:
Platopus wrote:I'm at the point where the test is no longer about getting into law school, I want to conquer this thing for it's own sake. I will be thoroughly disappointed with anything less than a 180; -0. Not because I'm anywhere near that level of mastery, but because anything less is conceding a point to my nemesis; every point is just a big finger pointing and laughing at me. I spent 2 hours drilling PR questions, thoroughly diagramming each and every answer. Took a LR section afterwards, and the only question I missed was a PR question. Like damn. Even more frustrating, I missed the damn question because I didn't thoroughly read answer E. I crossed it out on my first pass through and spent 2 minutes debating between two wrong AC's. How embarrassing is that? I feel like the test was just sitting there mocking me, laughing in quiet as I debated two wrong answers.

The test doesn't beat me, I beat me


Damn Platopus, you going to just sit there and let this test mock you?

Also, poll update.


I voted F@#K yes, so no: I'm not. Gonna open up a good old fashion can of LSAT ass whoopin come June 12th.

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby Future Ex-Engineer » Thu May 04, 2017 8:54 am

Taking PT 57 today. First full, timed PT since I re-booted my studying last month (168 in Dec 16 was the last I had done anything).

Crushed three sections b2b2b from PT 41 yesterday (LR1 -1, LG -1, LR2 -0). Let's see if my studying has paid off!

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby MediocreAtBest » Thu May 04, 2017 10:39 am

Platopus wrote:I'm at the point where the test is no longer about getting into law school, I want to conquer this thing for it's own sake. I will be thoroughly disappointed with anything less than a 180; -0. Not because I'm anywhere near that level of mastery, but because anything less is conceding a point to my nemesis; every point is just a big finger pointing and laughing at me. I spent 2 hours drilling PR questions, thoroughly diagramming each and every answer. Took a LR section afterwards, and the only question I missed was a PR question. Like damn. Even more frustrating, I missed the damn question because I didn't thoroughly read answer E. I crossed it out on my first pass through and spent 2 minutes debating between two wrong AC's. How embarrassing is that? I feel like the test was just sitting there mocking me, laughing in quiet as I debated two wrong answers.


Lol I spent 5 minutes last night ranting to my girlfriend about something similar. How missed questions feel like a slap in the face. She's supportive and says stuff like "yeah I'd never be able to do it, its too hard," but I know she just wants me to shut up.

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MediocreAtBest wrote:Lol I spent 5 minutes last night ranting to my girlfriend about something similar. How missed questions feel like a slap in the face. She's supportive and says stuff like "yeah I'd never be able to do it, its too hard," but I know she just wants me to shut up.

when I complain about the LSAT to someone who doesn't know how the LSAT is, I feel like I'm talking to the wall

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MediocreAtBest wrote:
Platopus wrote:I'm at the point where the test is no longer about getting into law school, I want to conquer this thing for it's own sake. I will be thoroughly disappointed with anything less than a 180; -0. Not because I'm anywhere near that level of mastery, but because anything less is conceding a point to my nemesis; every point is just a big finger pointing and laughing at me. I spent 2 hours drilling PR questions, thoroughly diagramming each and every answer. Took a LR section afterwards, and the only question I missed was a PR question. Like damn. Even more frustrating, I missed the damn question because I didn't thoroughly read answer E. I crossed it out on my first pass through and spent 2 minutes debating between two wrong AC's. How embarrassing is that? I feel like the test was just sitting there mocking me, laughing in quiet as I debated two wrong answers.


Lol I spent 5 minutes last night ranting to my girlfriend about something similar. How missed questions feel like a slap in the face. She's supportive and says stuff like "yeah I'd never be able to do it, its too hard," but I know she just wants me to shut up.


Ranting to my girlfriend has been integral to staying sane the last month.
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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby Platopus » Thu May 04, 2017 6:18 pm

Mikey wrote:
MediocreAtBest wrote:Lol I spent 5 minutes last night ranting to my girlfriend about something similar. How missed questions feel like a slap in the face. She's supportive and says stuff like "yeah I'd never be able to do it, its too hard," but I know she just wants me to shut up.

when I complain about the LSAT to someone who doesn't know how the LSAT is, I feel like I'm talking to the wall


My roommates are both med students and they are so sick of me talking about the LSAT. They'll put in headphones midway through my sentence

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby Future Ex-Engineer » Thu May 04, 2017 11:07 pm

PT 57 complete. First full test take since I sat for December 16.

-0 LG -0 LR1 -2 LR2 -4 RC. Scaled score 175. New personal best

Happy as a clam. I think my studying is working.

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby Platopus » Thu May 04, 2017 11:09 pm

mrgstephe wrote:PT 57 complete. First full test take since I sat for December 16.

-0 LG -0 LR1 -2 LR2 -4 RC. Scaled score 175. New personal best

Happy as a clam. I think my studying is working.


Congrats! That's an excellent score. Keep it up. BTW did you notice any fatigue in the 2nd half of the test? I only ask bc that's where you missed your Q's. Maybe something to keep in mind.

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Re: The Official June 2017 Study Group

Postby Future Ex-Engineer » Thu May 04, 2017 11:21 pm

Platopus wrote:
mrgstephe wrote:PT 57 complete. First full test take since I sat for December 16.

-0 LG -0 LR1 -2 LR2 -4 RC. Scaled score 175. New personal best

Happy as a clam. I think my studying is working.


Congrats! That's an excellent score. Keep it up. BTW did you notice any fatigue in the 2nd half of the test? I only ask bc that's where you missed your Q's. Maybe something to keep in mind.


Definitely noticed fatigue on the RC. For me, LG first is the worst possible scenario because it's my 'easy'/'automatic' section (engineer) So I'd rather have it to break up the others and give me a little mental rest. That being said, the dinosaurs game was hard as hell. Having three reading intensive sections b2b2b was rough. Missed two questions on the 'arts' passage. Makes sense b/c I had a hard time focusing on it because it wasn't even remotely interesting to me.

Also noticed myself get a little bit distracted in the RC portion by the music and conversation going on around me. I'm doing most of my prep in loud coffee shops - and distinctly remember getting distracted by a guy talking very loud on the phone right next to me early in LR2 and doing the second RC passage.

I think this being the first full timed PT I've done in 5 months and the fact that I worked an 8 hour day at a mentally strenuous engineering job both added to the fatigue. Planning to continue my practice under the adverse conditions. Will probably graduate to 5 and 6 section PTs under sub-optimal conditions so that test day is a breeze.

Most exciting thing is that I finished both LR sections under the time limit with only 2 questions that I felt like I had to rush my answer on - in the past I've had 4-5 per section where I haven't felt great about my answer. I think that is pretty indicative that I've learned how to tackle a number of problems that I used to struggle on.



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