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Is Pithypike's guide still works?

Postby wapet1 » Sun Oct 16, 2016 11:58 pm

Hi, I just started studying for the LSAT, and I have some newbie questions.

I know that Pithypike's guide s been sitting around for a long time, and I want to know whether it still works.

So far, I have:

1. all five "10 LSATs" series and also got some other PTs that were missing from the series (basically I have PTs from 1~ 71 except for PT 51).
2. Powerscore LGB and LRB
3. Official LSAT SuperPrep

So the last couple of days, I've been scanning the whole "10 LSATs" series so I can have all of PTs in PDF forms. After that, I divided LG into specific types as what Pithypike suggested (used Powerscore).

Now here comes the problem. I literally have about 71 PTs on my hands (about 360 LGs...) and there is no way that I can tackle all of these PTs with Pithypike's method.
Do you guys have any suggestions for me?

Also why did Pithypike suggested to make 3 copies of every LG ? Don't you just have to make 2 copies instead of 3?
[if per day, 3 new games + 3 previous day's games (repeats)] Maybe, I just do not fully understand the Pithy's guide. Can someone please clarify this for me as well?

Thanks so much!

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Re: Is Pithypike's guide still works?

Postby Barack O'Drama » Mon Oct 17, 2016 2:45 am

I think the general theory undergirding the guide is still relevant. I mean the test hasn't changed so much that the way one preps for it has changed much.

That said, it was written nearly 9 years ago, so I think parts of it could be improved.

For one, I might consider using 7Sage now, especially for the LG lessons/explanations. (Even the free ones on Youtube work for teaching you)

Secondly, I might consider using the Manhattan LR/ Manhattan LG in lieu of the bibles, or perhaps going through both if time allows.

Also, I think Kaplan Mastery is outdated and there are better work books out there.

Not sure what you are asking about the copies... But the thread seems to have answered some details about that. Essentially, it looks like PithyPikes guide for LG is now more or less what 7Sage calls "fool-proofing" games; or doing them over and over until you get them down.

Check out the thread for more details:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=41657&start=525
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Re: Is Pithypike's guide still works?

Postby wapet1 » Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:26 pm

Barack O'Drama wrote:I think the general theory undergirding the guide is still relevant. I mean the test hasn't changed so much that the way one preps for it has changed much.

That said, it was written nearly 9 years ago, so I think parts of it could be improved.

For one, I might consider using 7Sage now, especially for the LG lessons/explanations. (Even the free ones on Youtube work for teaching you)

Secondly, I might consider using the Manhattan LR/ Manhattan LG in lieu of the bibles, or perhaps going through both if time allows.

Also, I think Kaplan Mastery is outdated and there are better work books out there.

Not sure what you are asking about the copies... But the thread seems to have answered some details about that. Essentially, it looks like PithyPikes guide for LG is now more or less what 7Sage calls "fool-proofing" games; or doing them over and over until you get them down.

Check out the thread for more details:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=41657&start=525



Thanks for the answer! so basically what I understand from PithyPikes' guide for LG is that

eg) on day 1 do PT3 LG#2, PT7 LG#1, PT12 LG#1

Day 2 do PT13 LG#2, PT15 LG#1, PT17 LG#1, and + redo PT3 LG#2, PT7 LG#1, PT12 LG#1 (on new copy)

1. is this right? if so, why do I need 3 copies instead of just 2 copies? like when should I repeat 3rd copies then?

2. Also, if Kaplan Mastery is outdated, what are some good substitute for the books? I mean Kaplan Mastery was suggested for LR and if I just sort LRs(from 10 LSATs series) by LRB category, will it work?

3. I was planning on taking upcoming Feb 4th exam, but as you suggested using the Manhattan LR/ Manhattan LG as well, do you think I should change my whole plan and just go for the June exam instead? (in this case maybe I can go through all 71 PTs... not sure it is smart way to prep for the exam though...)


thanks again :)

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Re: Is Pithypike's guide still works?

Postby Barack O'Drama » Mon Oct 17, 2016 5:53 pm

wapet1 wrote:
Barack O'Drama wrote:I think the general theory undergirding the guide is still relevant. I mean the test hasn't changed so much that the way one preps for it has changed much.

That said, it was written nearly 9 years ago, so I think parts of it could be improved.

For one, I might consider using 7Sage now, especially for the LG lessons/explanations. (Even the free ones on Youtube work for teaching you)

Secondly, I might consider using the Manhattan LR/ Manhattan LG in lieu of the bibles, or perhaps going through both if time allows.

Also, I think Kaplan Mastery is outdated and there are better work books out there.

Not sure what you are asking about the copies... But the thread seems to have answered some details about that. Essentially, it looks like PithyPikes guide for LG is now more or less what 7Sage calls "fool-proofing" games; or doing them over and over until you get them down.

Check out the thread for more details:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=41657&start=525



Thanks for the answer! so basically what I understand from PithyPikes' guide for LG is that

eg) on day 1 do PT3 LG#2, PT7 LG#1, PT12 LG#1

Day 2 do PT13 LG#2, PT15 LG#1, PT17 LG#1, and + redo PT3 LG#2, PT7 LG#1, PT12 LG#1 (on new copy)

1. is this right? if so, why do I need 3 copies instead of just 2 copies? like when should I repeat 3rd copies then?

2. Also, if Kaplan Mastery is outdated, what are some good substitute for the books? I mean Kaplan Mastery was suggested for LR and if I just sort LRs(from 10 LSATs series) by LRB category, will it work?

3. I was planning on taking upcoming Feb 4th exam, but as you suggested using the Manhattan LR/ Manhattan LG as well, do you think I should change my whole plan and just go for the June exam instead? (in this case maybe I can go through all 71 PTs... not sure it is smart way to prep for the exam though...)


thanks again :)


Hey dude,
No problem - always happy to help!

1. I think the third copy is to re-do it a third time. It doesn't seem like it specifies when, but I'd give it a week or two. I'd actually suggest just using scrap paper and not wasting ink/paper making copies and writing on the originals; that's what I do at least.

2. Perhaps the Cambridge drill by type packets if you can get your hands on a copy. Powerscore has drill by type work books that are pretty good I hear. Then, of course, there is always just getting all the PTs and going through them and organizing them by type with a guide. (It really isn't as bad as it sounds, lol)

3. I think June is always going to be better than Feb. One, the Feb score breakdowns are unreleased. Two, the more time will serve you well. But I guess it all depends on your ultimate goal and where you are starting from.

Have you taken a diagnostic test yet?
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Re: Is Pithypike's guide still works?

Postby wapet1 » Mon Oct 17, 2016 9:57 pm

Barack O'Drama wrote:
wapet1 wrote:
Barack O'Drama wrote:I think the general theory undergirding the guide is still relevant. I mean the test hasn't changed so much that the way one preps for it has changed much.

That said, it was written nearly 9 years ago, so I think parts of it could be improved.

For one, I might consider using 7Sage now, especially for the LG lessons/explanations. (Even the free ones on Youtube work for teaching you)

Secondly, I might consider using the Manhattan LR/ Manhattan LG in lieu of the bibles, or perhaps going through both if time allows.

Also, I think Kaplan Mastery is outdated and there are better work books out there.

Not sure what you are asking about the copies... But the thread seems to have answered some details about that. Essentially, it looks like PithyPikes guide for LG is now more or less what 7Sage calls "fool-proofing" games; or doing them over and over until you get them down.

Check out the thread for more details:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=41657&start=525



Thanks for the answer! so basically what I understand from PithyPikes' guide for LG is that

eg) on day 1 do PT3 LG#2, PT7 LG#1, PT12 LG#1

Day 2 do PT13 LG#2, PT15 LG#1, PT17 LG#1, and + redo PT3 LG#2, PT7 LG#1, PT12 LG#1 (on new copy)

1. is this right? if so, why do I need 3 copies instead of just 2 copies? like when should I repeat 3rd copies then?

2. Also, if Kaplan Mastery is outdated, what are some good substitute for the books? I mean Kaplan Mastery was suggested for LR and if I just sort LRs(from 10 LSATs series) by LRB category, will it work?

3. I was planning on taking upcoming Feb 4th exam, but as you suggested using the Manhattan LR/ Manhattan LG as well, do you think I should change my whole plan and just go for the June exam instead? (in this case maybe I can go through all 71 PTs... not sure it is smart way to prep for the exam though...)


thanks again :)


Hey dude,
No problem - always happy to help!

1. I think the third copy is to re-do it a third time. It doesn't seem like it specifies when, but I'd give it a week or two. I'd actually suggest just using scrap paper and not wasting ink/paper making copies and writing on the originals; that's what I do at least.

2. Perhaps the Cambridge drill by type packets if you can get your hands on a copy. Powerscore has drill by type work books that are pretty good I hear. Then, of course, there is always just getting all the PTs and going through them and organizing them by type with a guide. (It really isn't as bad as it sounds, lol)

3. I think June is always going to be better than Feb. One, the Feb score breakdowns are unreleased. Two, the more time will serve you well. But I guess it all depends on your ultimate goal and where you are starting from.

Have you taken a diagnostic test yet?


Okay, so what I am going to do now is that first, I will go through the proper chapter from the LGB (eg. Ch.3 Linear games) and once I finish reading and studying the section, I will start the actual Linear Games on PTs and repeat it multiple times until I get and so on.

and since I have all PTs I will start sorting the LRs as well and again go through the chapter from the bible and do the corresponding types of LR.

again my concern is that whether it is necessary for me to go through the whole 1~71 PTs (If I am shooting for the June exam) and if not, do you have any recommendation of specific PTs that I should really focus ?

and I haven't taken a diagnostic test yet. Should I start off with that? (if so, should I take the free June 07 PT as a diagnostic test?)

thanks so much for your help, I really appreciated it!

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Re: Is Pithypike's guide still works?

Postby wapet1 » Mon Oct 17, 2016 10:37 pm

wapet1 wrote:
Barack O'Drama wrote:
wapet1 wrote:
Barack O'Drama wrote:I think the general theory undergirding the guide is still relevant. I mean the test hasn't changed so much that the way one preps for it has changed much.

That said, it was written nearly 9 years ago, so I think parts of it could be improved.

For one, I might consider using 7Sage now, especially for the LG lessons/explanations. (Even the free ones on Youtube work for teaching you)

Secondly, I might consider using the Manhattan LR/ Manhattan LG in lieu of the bibles, or perhaps going through both if time allows.

Also, I think Kaplan Mastery is outdated and there are better work books out there.

Not sure what you are asking about the copies... But the thread seems to have answered some details about that. Essentially, it looks like PithyPikes guide for LG is now more or less what 7Sage calls "fool-proofing" games; or doing them over and over until you get them down.

Check out the thread for more details:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=41657&start=525



Thanks for the answer! so basically what I understand from PithyPikes' guide for LG is that

eg) on day 1 do PT3 LG#2, PT7 LG#1, PT12 LG#1

Day 2 do PT13 LG#2, PT15 LG#1, PT17 LG#1, and + redo PT3 LG#2, PT7 LG#1, PT12 LG#1 (on new copy)

1. is this right? if so, why do I need 3 copies instead of just 2 copies? like when should I repeat 3rd copies then?

2. Also, if Kaplan Mastery is outdated, what are some good substitute for the books? I mean Kaplan Mastery was suggested for LR and if I just sort LRs(from 10 LSATs series) by LRB category, will it work?

3. I was planning on taking upcoming Feb 4th exam, but as you suggested using the Manhattan LR/ Manhattan LG as well, do you think I should change my whole plan and just go for the June exam instead? (in this case maybe I can go through all 71 PTs... not sure it is smart way to prep for the exam though...)


thanks again :)


Hey dude,
No problem - always happy to help!

1. I think the third copy is to re-do it a third time. It doesn't seem like it specifies when, but I'd give it a week or two. I'd actually suggest just using scrap paper and not wasting ink/paper making copies and writing on the originals; that's what I do at least.

2. Perhaps the Cambridge drill by type packets if you can get your hands on a copy. Powerscore has drill by type work books that are pretty good I hear. Then, of course, there is always just getting all the PTs and going through them and organizing them by type with a guide. (It really isn't as bad as it sounds, lol)

3. I think June is always going to be better than Feb. One, the Feb score breakdowns are unreleased. Two, the more time will serve you well. But I guess it all depends on your ultimate goal and where you are starting from.

Have you taken a diagnostic test yet?


Okay, so what I am going to do now is that first, I will go through the proper chapter from the LGB (eg. Ch.3 Linear games) and once I finish reading and studying the section, I will start the actual Linear Games on PTs and repeat it multiple times until I get and so on.

and since I have all PTs I will start sorting the LRs as well and again go through the chapter from the bible and do the corresponding types of LR.

again my concern is that whether it is necessary for me to go through the whole 1~71 PTs (If I am shooting for the June exam) and if not, do you have any recommendation of specific PTs that I should really focus ? (I can currently spend about 8 hours per day to study on LSAT prep.)

and I haven't taken a diagnostic test yet. Should I start off with that? (if so, should I take the free June 07 PT as a diagnostic test?)

thanks so much for your help, I really appreciated it!

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Re: Is Pithypike's guide still works?

Postby Barack O'Drama » Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:31 pm

wapet1 wrote:
wapet1 wrote:
Barack O'Drama wrote:
wapet1 wrote:
Barack O'Drama wrote:I think the general theory undergirding the guide is still relevant. I mean the test hasn't changed so much that the way one preps for it has changed much.

That said, it was written nearly 9 years ago, so I think parts of it could be improved.

For one, I might consider using 7Sage now, especially for the LG lessons/explanations. (Even the free ones on Youtube work for teaching you)

Secondly, I might consider using the Manhattan LR/ Manhattan LG in lieu of the bibles, or perhaps going through both if time allows.

Also, I think Kaplan Mastery is outdated and there are better work books out there.

Not sure what you are asking about the copies... But the thread seems to have answered some details about that. Essentially, it looks like PithyPikes guide for LG is now more or less what 7Sage calls "fool-proofing" games; or doing them over and over until you get them down.

Check out the thread for more details:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=41657&start=525



Thanks for the answer! so basically what I understand from PithyPikes' guide for LG is that

eg) on day 1 do PT3 LG#2, PT7 LG#1, PT12 LG#1

Day 2 do PT13 LG#2, PT15 LG#1, PT17 LG#1, and + redo PT3 LG#2, PT7 LG#1, PT12 LG#1 (on new copy)

1. is this right? if so, why do I need 3 copies instead of just 2 copies? like when should I repeat 3rd copies then?

2. Also, if Kaplan Mastery is outdated, what are some good substitute for the books? I mean Kaplan Mastery was suggested for LR and if I just sort LRs(from 10 LSATs series) by LRB category, will it work?

3. I was planning on taking upcoming Feb 4th exam, but as you suggested using the Manhattan LR/ Manhattan LG as well, do you think I should change my whole plan and just go for the June exam instead? (in this case maybe I can go through all 71 PTs... not sure it is smart way to prep for the exam though...)


thanks again :)


Hey dude,
No problem - always happy to help!

1. I think the third copy is to re-do it a third time. It doesn't seem like it specifies when, but I'd give it a week or two. I'd actually suggest just using scrap paper and not wasting ink/paper making copies and writing on the originals; that's what I do at least.

2. Perhaps the Cambridge drill by type packets if you can get your hands on a copy. Powerscore has drill by type work books that are pretty good I hear. Then, of course, there is always just getting all the PTs and going through them and organizing them by type with a guide. (It really isn't as bad as it sounds, lol)

3. I think June is always going to be better than Feb. One, the Feb score breakdowns are unreleased. Two, the more time will serve you well. But I guess it all depends on your ultimate goal and where you are starting from.

Have you taken a diagnostic test yet?


Okay, so what I am going to do now is that first, I will go through the proper chapter from the LGB (eg. Ch.3 Linear games) and once I finish reading and studying the section, I will start the actual Linear Games on PTs and repeat it multiple times until I get and so on.

and since I have all PTs I will start sorting the LRs as well and again go through the chapter from the bible and do the corresponding types of LR.

again my concern is that whether it is necessary for me to go through the whole 1~71 PTs (If I am shooting for the June exam) and if not, do you have any recommendation of specific PTs that I should really focus ? (I can currently spend about 8 hours per day to study on LSAT prep.)

and I haven't taken a diagnostic test yet. Should I start off with that? (if so, should I take the free June 07 PT as a diagnostic test?)

thanks so much for your help, I really appreciated it!



Hey dude,

Yeah, I would take a diagnostic test. The June 07 one available for free online is a good test to take.

I would use PTs 1-35 for drilling and the rest for full-timed exams. There is no set amount of tests to take because everyone is different. I would suggest somewhere between 20-30 seems to be the sweet spot for people. But be careful to not make your goal getting through a certain amount of tests, but rather to build good habits and learn the skills you need. That may only take 10 exams or it might take 40.

Also, make sure you focus on the newer tests when you begin PT'ing. I would make PTs 65-79 priorities since those are the most recent.

No problem - happy to help!
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Re: Is Pithypike's guide still works?

Postby wapet1 » Tue Oct 18, 2016 10:29 am

Barack O'Drama wrote:
wapet1 wrote:
wapet1 wrote:
Barack O'Drama wrote:
wapet1 wrote:
Barack O'Drama wrote:I think the general theory undergirding the guide is still relevant. I mean the test hasn't changed so much that the way one preps for it has changed much.

That said, it was written nearly 9 years ago, so I think parts of it could be improved.

For one, I might consider using 7Sage now, especially for the LG lessons/explanations. (Even the free ones on Youtube work for teaching you)

Secondly, I might consider using the Manhattan LR/ Manhattan LG in lieu of the bibles, or perhaps going through both if time allows.

Also, I think Kaplan Mastery is outdated and there are better work books out there.

Not sure what you are asking about the copies... But the thread seems to have answered some details about that. Essentially, it looks like PithyPikes guide for LG is now more or less what 7Sage calls "fool-proofing" games; or doing them over and over until you get them down.

Check out the thread for more details:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=41657&start=525



Thanks for the answer! so basically what I understand from PithyPikes' guide for LG is that

eg) on day 1 do PT3 LG#2, PT7 LG#1, PT12 LG#1

Day 2 do PT13 LG#2, PT15 LG#1, PT17 LG#1, and + redo PT3 LG#2, PT7 LG#1, PT12 LG#1 (on new copy)

1. is this right? if so, why do I need 3 copies instead of just 2 copies? like when should I repeat 3rd copies then?

2. Also, if Kaplan Mastery is outdated, what are some good substitute for the books? I mean Kaplan Mastery was suggested for LR and if I just sort LRs(from 10 LSATs series) by LRB category, will it work?

3. I was planning on taking upcoming Feb 4th exam, but as you suggested using the Manhattan LR/ Manhattan LG as well, do you think I should change my whole plan and just go for the June exam instead? (in this case maybe I can go through all 71 PTs... not sure it is smart way to prep for the exam though...)


thanks again :)


Hey dude,
No problem - always happy to help!

1. I think the third copy is to re-do it a third time. It doesn't seem like it specifies when, but I'd give it a week or two. I'd actually suggest just using scrap paper and not wasting ink/paper making copies and writing on the originals; that's what I do at least.

2. Perhaps the Cambridge drill by type packets if you can get your hands on a copy. Powerscore has drill by type work books that are pretty good I hear. Then, of course, there is always just getting all the PTs and going through them and organizing them by type with a guide. (It really isn't as bad as it sounds, lol)

3. I think June is always going to be better than Feb. One, the Feb score breakdowns are unreleased. Two, the more time will serve you well. But I guess it all depends on your ultimate goal and where you are starting from.

Have you taken a diagnostic test yet?


Okay, so what I am going to do now is that first, I will go through the proper chapter from the LGB (eg. Ch.3 Linear games) and once I finish reading and studying the section, I will start the actual Linear Games on PTs and repeat it multiple times until I get and so on.

and since I have all PTs I will start sorting the LRs as well and again go through the chapter from the bible and do the corresponding types of LR.

again my concern is that whether it is necessary for me to go through the whole 1~71 PTs (If I am shooting for the June exam) and if not, do you have any recommendation of specific PTs that I should really focus ? (I can currently spend about 8 hours per day to study on LSAT prep.)

and I haven't taken a diagnostic test yet. Should I start off with that? (if so, should I take the free June 07 PT as a diagnostic test?)

thanks so much for your help, I really appreciated it!



Hey dude,

Yeah, I would take a diagnostic test. The June 07 one available for free online is a good test to take.

I would use PTs 1-35 for drilling and the rest for full-timed exams. There is no set amount of tests to take because everyone is different. I would suggest somewhere between 20-30 seems to be the sweet spot for people. But be careful to not make your goal getting through a certain amount of tests, but rather to build good habits and learn the skills you need. That may only take 10 exams or it might take 40.

Also, make sure you focus on the newer tests when you begin PT'ing. I would make PTs 65-79 priorities since those are the most recent.

No problem - happy to help!


Awesome! I will def. keep in mind!

BTW if i have any further inquires, do you mind if I PM you later on?

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