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Need Encouragement

Postby burnedoutteacher » Tue Sep 13, 2016 3:10 pm

I'm new to this board. I just took my fist diagnostic and scored a 144. I need to get 162 on the actual LSAT to get into the program I want-Santa Clara. Is there hope of improvement? Has anyone on this message board increased their score by 18 points?

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Re: Need Encouragement

Postby Alexandros » Tue Sep 13, 2016 3:17 pm

In my opinion, your initial diagnostic says little to nothing about your potential. Put some hard work and time into it and you should definitely be able to make at least a 162.

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Postby dietcoke1 » Tue Sep 13, 2016 3:17 pm

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Re: Need Encouragement

Postby Kopetz » Tue Sep 13, 2016 3:46 pm

burnedoutteacher wrote:I'm new to this board. I just took my fist diagnostic and scored a 144. I need to get 162 on the actual LSAT to get into the program I want-Santa Clara. Is there hope of improvement? Has anyone on this message board increased their score by 18 points?


What's your timeline? Was there one particular section that gave you more trouble than the others? The LSAT is learnable, but there are other relevant factors involved. If you're not dead-set on this cycle, it's feasible for you to improve to a 162 for the 2018 cycle with dedicated effort and practice.

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Re: Need Encouragement

Postby poptart123 » Tue Sep 13, 2016 3:47 pm

I improved 20 points, and I'm an idiot. You can do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Need Encouragement

Postby Mikey » Tue Sep 13, 2016 4:54 pm

It's possible. Just apply yourself and put the work in. If you need motivation, just remind yourself why you want to be a lawyer.

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Re: Need Encouragement

Postby Lee1962 » Tue Sep 13, 2016 5:30 pm

Yeah I'm trying to do the same. My diagnostic was a 135 but I've been scoring now around a 155. Im trying to break that mark because I really want to go to YHS. I have a pretty good GPA (~3.3) and a really unique soft.

We CAN DO THIS OP!

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Re: Need Encouragement

Postby Barack O'Drama » Tue Sep 13, 2016 5:34 pm

Then let that 162 be all that matters. Don't get caught up in dates and jump on signing up for the next available test.

You can absolutely improve your score all the way up to 180. The only thing that stands between you and a 180 or a 162 is the amount of dedication, time, and hard work you are willing to put into prepping.

I'm sure with 10 years of prepping 40 hours a week you can hit a 180. Shit, you could probably do it in closer to 5, but you're aiming for a perfectly respectable 162. Many, many people have gone from the 140s -160s. And there are absolutely zero reasons why you cannot either. A 162 means you can get (on average) 20ish wrong ( Or 5 per section) So every 5 questions on the exam you can miss one. Think of it like that and it doesn't seem so bad at all and it really isn't. Once you get really good at logic games your score will jump up 5-10 points right there depending on how many you missed.

First and foremost I would recommend beginning with the LR section. It is half the test and the strategies and conditional logic you learn while studying it will help you with LG and RC later on.

Materials you may want to consider:

7Sage Course ($179-$799) BTW the starter is completely fine for starting off, lol.
Powerscore Logic Games Bible
Powerscore Logical Reasoning Bible
Manhattan Prep (I think they are great for everything, RC included, and LR especially)
The LSAT Trainer
All the Ten Actual LSATs you can get your hands on. I'd at least get 40-78. That gives you some to drill with and plenty for Full-timed PTs.

If you can afford to, I would try to buy all of these books and see what fits your learning style. 7Sage is my favorite and I think objectively better for LG and much of the LR. However, some people just don't prefer the video lessons and get too easily distracted on a laptop, ipad, etc. For those people I would recommend going through the LSAT Trainer and then focusing on each individual section using Manhattan or Powerscore. Both if you have time. Powerscore I think does a bit of a better job at "dumbing" it down for beginners. However, after The Trainer you may be fine going straight to a high level approach.

In short, I'm a fan of trying out a bunch of things until you find what works for you. That doesn't mean there will be a magic bullet that will get you to a 162 overnight, but I know a turning point for me was using 7Sage and Manhattan. (That is what gave me my jump to the 160s)


Also, I think I forgot to say this, but don't put much stock in your diagnostic. First time I ever sat down to take my diagnostic I was expecting at 160s score. Got a 151. I had NO idea what I was doing with games, or what the hell LR was asking me to do with some of these questions. For RC I fell for every trick question and ran out of time on the 3rd passage. Just simply learning what the questions were asking would have probably added 5 points to my score. Talent is overrated as far as most things go and hard work is going to be what carries you to your goals!

Good Luck!!
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Re: Need Encouragement

Postby USayinBoalt » Tue Sep 13, 2016 5:42 pm

O'Drama consistently droppin knowledge

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Re: Need Encouragement

Postby calpolisci2016 » Tue Sep 13, 2016 5:59 pm

My diagnostic was in the low 140s and my highest score is 169. Just put in the work, stay tough and you'll be rewarded.

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Re: Need Encouragement

Postby burnedoutteacher » Tue Sep 13, 2016 6:17 pm

Thank you for all the great responses! I feel a lot better:) :D

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Re: Need Encouragement

Postby Rupert Pupkin » Tue Sep 13, 2016 6:59 pm

"Impossible ain't impossible at all" -Tunechi

Just study smart and work hard and you will manifest the score you desire. Especially a 162. People on this board have scored substantially well after a poor initial diagnostic. Performing well for the LSAT is like training for any sports and if you train your mind it is a very learnable test.

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Re: Need Encouragement

Postby Baylor28 » Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:38 am

poptart123 wrote:I improved 20 points, and I'm an idiot. You can do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Dude, help me out! dead serious

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Re: Need Encouragement

Postby Baylor28 » Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:41 am

calpolisci2016 wrote:My diagnostic was in the low 140s and my highest score is 169. Just put in the work, stay tough and you'll be rewarded.


Hey, I know it's been a year since you've posted this but how did you do this? like exactly, I'm in a similar boat to you and am willing to put in work to have a similar outcome. What did you do and how did you improve?

I have all the blueprint lesson books, all 3 powerscore bible book and each of their question type training books along with every practice test (1-80)... What should I do?

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Re: Need Encouragement

Postby MediocreAtBest » Mon Jun 05, 2017 11:36 am

You've already gotten great advice here but I just thought I'd echo what they've said. Don't worry about your diagnostic. I got a 151 on my diagnostic and scored a 176 on my most recent practice test. If you put in time and study and learn the test, that's all that matters. A 162 is a very achievable goal, so don't start stressing just yet.

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Re: Need Encouragement

Postby Slippin' Jimmy » Mon Jun 05, 2017 11:42 am

burnedoutteacher wrote:I'm new to this board. I just took my fist diagnostic and scored a 144. I need to get 162 on the actual LSAT to get into the program I want-Santa Clara. Is there hope of improvement? Has anyone on this message board increased their score by 18 points?

My diagnostic was 153, my highest PT so far is 173, so a 20 point increase in about 5 months of prep. It took a lot of work but a huge increase is definitely possible.



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