Withdraw from October LSAT?: Little preparation, 168 LSAT practice score Forum
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Withdraw from October LSAT?: Little preparation, 168 LSAT practice score
Hello, I'm just frantically trying to make a last-minute decision about the October LSAT. I've only truly started studying for the LSAT a couple weeks ago and it mostly involved reading the official LSAT Superprep intro and the Powerscore Logic Games bible (which I've still not finished). My first actual timed LSAT score (just practice, not official) turned out to be a 168. I missed only a few questions in the logical reasoning sections combined, did rather well on the reading comprehension as well, but botched the logic games section (missed like 9 out of the 24 or so). I believe I only did so because of a lack of practiced familiarity with the logic games section (despite my initial studying and understanding of diagramming patterns) and the time limit (including resulting anxiety affecting my concentration).
I recently purchased the Powerscore Reading Comprehension bible and a book of official tests and am already signed up for the October LSAT. I've already requested my letters of recommendation, as well. However, I'm thinking it would be a good idea to postpone until December and get a solid higher score instead of a lower score, retake, and/or cancellation. My LSDAS GPA is about a 3.48 now, I'm a senior undergraduate, and I was hoping I might be able to get into the T14 or T6, hopefully with scholarship money to the lower T14 or schools right behind the T14. So...
Do you think I should wait until the December LSAT and should I be able to improve significantly in the mean-time with focused practice? Is December too late these days for scholarship money at upper-tier schools? Thank you.
I recently purchased the Powerscore Reading Comprehension bible and a book of official tests and am already signed up for the October LSAT. I've already requested my letters of recommendation, as well. However, I'm thinking it would be a good idea to postpone until December and get a solid higher score instead of a lower score, retake, and/or cancellation. My LSDAS GPA is about a 3.48 now, I'm a senior undergraduate, and I was hoping I might be able to get into the T14 or T6, hopefully with scholarship money to the lower T14 or schools right behind the T14. So...
Do you think I should wait until the December LSAT and should I be able to improve significantly in the mean-time with focused practice? Is December too late these days for scholarship money at upper-tier schools? Thank you.
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Re: Withdraw from October LSAT?: Little preparation, 168 LSAT practice score
just take both. people downplay the importance of test day performance. use tomorrow as a learning tool for december. maybe you crush tomorrow. just take it.
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Re: Withdraw from October LSAT?: Little preparation, 168 LSAT practice score
But wouldn't that reflect poorly on my application as opposed to just a single higher score? Especially because I think I might be a little too anxious/feeling unprepared to even do this well for real, right now.
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Re: Withdraw from October LSAT?: Little preparation, 168 LSAT practice score
My first test was under 160. I had a very similar GPA as you. Im at Duke/UVA on a huge scholarship. I didn't crush the lsat till the 3rd time. Im super grateful for my 2 failures earlier on. I learned a lot that I wouldn't have learned studying.Bhaal wrote:But wouldn't that reflect poorly on my application as opposed to just a single higher score? Especially because I think I might be a little too anxious/feeling unprepared to even do this well for real, right now.
IE Schools don't care about your scores except your top score. That is all they care about. use tomorrow as a learning moment because you will feel like this regardless how much you study. take the damn exam tomorrow and stop trying to find an excuse. live and learn.
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Re: Withdraw from October LSAT?: Little preparation, 168 LSAT practice score
Huge scholly is impressive. Do you have any distinguished softs that offset your GPA, or is it ONLY because you crushed the lsat?fredfred wrote:My first test was under 160. I had a very similar GPA as you. Im at Duke/UVA on a huge scholarship. I didn't crush the lsat till the 3rd time. Im super grateful for my 2 failures earlier on. I learned a lot that I wouldn't have learned studying.Bhaal wrote:But wouldn't that reflect poorly on my application as opposed to just a single higher score? Especially because I think I might be a little too anxious/feeling unprepared to even do this well for real, right now.
IE Schools don't care about your scores except your top score. That is all they care about. use tomorrow as a learning moment because you will feel like this regardless how much you study. take the damn exam tomorrow and stop trying to find an excuse. live and learn.
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Re: Withdraw from October LSAT?: Little preparation, 168 LSAT practice score
I should have specified, sorry, but I'm not really looking for an excuse, I'm looking at NYU:fredfred wrote:My first test was under 160. I had a very similar GPA as you. Im at Duke/UVA on a huge scholarship. I didn't crush the lsat till the 3rd time. Im super grateful for my 2 failures earlier on. I learned a lot that I wouldn't have learned studying.Bhaal wrote:But wouldn't that reflect poorly on my application as opposed to just a single higher score? Especially because I think I might be a little too anxious/feeling unprepared to even do this well for real, right now.
IE Schools don't care about your scores except your top score. That is all they care about. use tomorrow as a learning moment because you will feel like this regardless how much you study. take the damn exam tomorrow and stop trying to find an excuse. live and learn.
"If I take the LSAT more than once, does the Committee see the higher score?
Yes, but they evaluate based on the average score in most cases. The Committee may take special circumstances into account. If a candidate can point out specific reasons why the Committee should consider an LSAT score aberrant, they should detail those reasons in an addendum to the personal statement."
This is why I'm afraid to take the LSAT tomorrow. I've heard the conventional wisdom that for most schools, retakes don't matter but my prime choice directly state otherwise.
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Re: Withdraw from October LSAT?: Little preparation, 168 LSAT practice score
If you are confident you can reach upper 160s then you are fine, and you can retake in December if you want to get higher.Bhaal wrote:I should have specified, sorry, but I'm not really looking for an excuse, I'm looking at NYU:fredfred wrote:My first test was under 160. I had a very similar GPA as you. Im at Duke/UVA on a huge scholarship. I didn't crush the lsat till the 3rd time. Im super grateful for my 2 failures earlier on. I learned a lot that I wouldn't have learned studying.Bhaal wrote:But wouldn't that reflect poorly on my application as opposed to just a single higher score? Especially because I think I might be a little too anxious/feeling unprepared to even do this well for real, right now.
IE Schools don't care about your scores except your top score. That is all they care about. use tomorrow as a learning moment because you will feel like this regardless how much you study. take the damn exam tomorrow and stop trying to find an excuse. live and learn.
"If I take the LSAT more than once, does the Committee see the higher score?
Yes, but they evaluate based on the average score in most cases. The Committee may take special circumstances into account. If a candidate can point out specific reasons why the Committee should consider an LSAT score aberrant, they should detail those reasons in an addendum to the personal statement."
This is why I'm afraid to take the LSAT tomorrow. I've heard the conventional wisdom that for most schools, retakes don't matter but my prime choice directly state otherwise.
According to what I know from current students, all the law students I know have taken LSAT at least twice. Law schools told you to average but I doubt they do, since your highest score is the one they will report to the US news or something in order to rank.
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Re: Withdraw from October LSAT?: Little preparation, 168 LSAT practice score
Wait - s/he is PT'ing at 168 with only a few weeks practice...why aren't we saying to hold off till December? Seems like this person could actually study and get a really high score. Although I do agree that schools only seem to care about your highest score...
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Re: Withdraw from October LSAT?: Little preparation, 168 LSAT practice score
Yes I did. PM if you really want to know but actual unicorn softs.PrayFor170 wrote:Huge scholly is impressive. Do you have any distinguished softs that offset your GPA, or is it ONLY because you crushed the lsat?fredfred wrote:My first test was under 160. I had a very similar GPA as you. Im at Duke/UVA on a huge scholarship. I didn't crush the lsat till the 3rd time. Im super grateful for my 2 failures earlier on. I learned a lot that I wouldn't have learned studying.Bhaal wrote:But wouldn't that reflect poorly on my application as opposed to just a single higher score? Especially because I think I might be a little too anxious/feeling unprepared to even do this well for real, right now.
IE Schools don't care about your scores except your top score. That is all they care about. use tomorrow as a learning moment because you will feel like this regardless how much you study. take the damn exam tomorrow and stop trying to find an excuse. live and learn.
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Re: Withdraw from October LSAT?: Little preparation, 168 LSAT practice score
I mentioned this in another thread, but schools dont "average" the scores anymore. There is no punihsment for doing with risk of having to retake
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