The Official June 2015 Waiter's Thread (GREY DEY 7/1)

What now?

See you in a "personal statements" thread
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26%
Applying this cycle, but done with TLS
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Retake in October
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Indefinite retake
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I'm gonna make a "should I retake?" thread
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Change of career choice
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Other
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Re: The Official June 2015 Waiter's Thread

Postby yellowyak46 » Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:21 am

buckiguy_sucks wrote:
yellowyak46 wrote:I'm pretty sure all this job discussion started when told me that dual degrees are useless and then suggested I shouldn't even go to law school unless I want to do big law. I think think it's both naive and very odd to suggest that non biglaw jobs are a waste of a law degree. I realize the job market for law grads isn't exactly rainbows and unicorns, but I think if you're willing to travel outside of the biglaw-oriented markets of NY, SF, Chicago, etc., there are available jobs for those that work for them. There are literally thousands of people that need legal assistance in the US, and there are jobs available to those that want to help them. I've spent enough time in the legal world (I don't need people telling me I'm wrong... just save it and let me wallow in my poor judgment if that's what you think) to know that the job market isn't nearly as crap as some people suggest, especially if you have a degree from a decent school and/or a desire to work hard.

AAANYWAY. Let's please not talk about that anymore. I have a real legitimate question for people. Hopefully it won't incite a riot or whatever. I would appreciate some real answers that don't involve letting me know I'm wasting my life.

I've seen that taking the LSAT more than once isn't looked unfavorably upon by most law schools (I think I've heard Yale is the possible exception). However, I'm interested in the converse: Is taking the LSAT just once looked at favorably at all? Or nah?


LSAT more than once being unfavorable is flame, all they care about is your highest score

FWIW I never said the only reason to go to law school is big law, but I will say the only reason to go to law school is to be a practicing attorney. It's great to do legal aid, be a PD, or be some other kind of private or public interest attorney, but people who get law degrees because they're "versatile" don't understand the job market, which doesn't appear to be the case for you.


Okay thanks.

And yes, I will agree that the decision to go to law school just to get a JD which could help your non-lawyer related career aspirations is certainly an odd one, and probably not a smart one.

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Re: The Official June 2015 Waiter's Thread

Postby cdotson2 » Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:22 am

jumbo2016 wrote:What did everyone have for breakfast?

I just woke up... and probably won't.

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Re: The Official June 2015 Waiter's Thread

Postby yellowyak46 » Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:23 am

cdotson2 wrote:
buckiguy_sucks wrote:
whacka wrote:
EnderWiggin wrote:*lurker memories*
as an ex-lurker myself, taking this opportunity to encourage all lurkers to come out and play! we want to meet you now so your first post isn't something along the lines of "Hi..um, yeah, can confirm here that Hamilton offers have started going out."

Then rude people are like "can we get someone with more posts to confirm??" and make it really awkward


We encourage lurkers to post, tell them its a safe space, then fight with them for 5 pages

Is it really a lurker safe space because it feels pretty hostile

It is not. I can confirm lurkers gotta be tough skinned to make the jump to shitpoaster.


Can confirm.

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Re: The Official June 2015 Waiter's Thread

Postby cdotson2 » Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:26 am

whacka wrote:Yeah returning to the MPA + JD discussion, I don't understand the point - if you're using your MPA, you're not using your JD, and vice versa.

I think for some k-JD student we have alot of different interests, maybe people do it so they can do either if they don't like one path.

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Re: The Official June 2015 Waiter's Thread

Postby jumbo2016 » Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:27 am

hammocklv06 wrote:Crunched some numbers. Nothing too complex but average "released days early" below...

June Average 3.545454545
All Date Average 3.659090909

Trends for the June release date (wish I could just paste the graph I made in Excel) but...
Jun-04 4 days early
Jun-05 2 days early
Jun-06 4 days early
Jun-07 2 days early
Jun-08 4 days early
Jun-09 4 days early
Jun-10 3 days early
Jun-11 2 days early
Jun-12 4 days early
Jun-13 4 days early
Jun-14 6 days early

So I think it would be reasonable to expect a release date between 4 and 5 days early. My best guess would be that we will see our scores coming through either on Thursday, July 2 or Friday, July 3. Hope this helps!


Based on the posted release date it would be the 2nd or 3rd but based on the days after the exam it should be the 29th or the 30th. I feel like 29th or 30th is more accurate because the projected date varies a ton but its almost always in the 21 days ballpark. Also the LSAC site says that they'll be closed the 3rd, not sure if this would affect score release as it looks like they've come out on non-business days before. It's basically all a giant mystery. Nobody knows what they do up there.

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Re: The Official June 2015 Waiter's Thread

Postby yellowyak46 » Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:29 am

cdotson2 wrote:
whacka wrote:Yeah returning to the MPA + JD discussion, I don't understand the point - if you're using your MPA, you're not using your JD, and vice versa.

I think for some k-JD student we have alot of different interests, maybe people do it so they can do either if they don't like one path.


I think it's possible to use both at the same time, but you'd have to get creative. I can think of some sort of community-organizer type advocate sort of dealio, which I'm sure is a thing somewhere. I think most of the point of getting both is so you can flip-flop in between career-types, and once in a while use stuff you learned from your other degree to help the job that's mostly using the other.

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Re: The Official June 2015 Waiter's Thread

Postby whacka » Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:30 am

cdotson2 wrote:
whacka wrote:Yeah returning to the MPA + JD discussion, I don't understand the point - if you're using your MPA, you're not using your JD, and vice versa.

I think for some k-JD student we have alot of different interests, maybe people do it so they can do either if they don't like one path.


That's a TON of money to spend for exploratory purposes

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Re: The Official June 2015 Waiter's Thread

Postby TexasENG » Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:31 am

buckiguy_sucks wrote:
benwyatt wrote:
jumbo2016 wrote:What did everyone have for breakfast?


The blood of my enemies.


is that testmasters or powerscore


Hopefully powerscore. I'm still salty about that tweet they sent out earlier this week.

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Re: The Official June 2015 Waiter's Thread

Postby yellowyak46 » Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:33 am

benwyatt wrote:yellowyak46: Let's stop talking about jobs!
yellowyak46: *continues talking about jobs*


Alright harhar isn't this fun.

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Re: The Official June 2015 Waiter's Thread

Postby cdotson2 » Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:34 am

benwyatt wrote:yellowyak46: Let's stop talking about jobs!
yellowyak46: *continues talking about jobs*

I hope yellowyak stays on tls. he has had a tough short life as my friend the fellow future judge (FFJ).

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Re: The Official June 2015 Waiter's Thread

Postby whacka » Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:34 am

benwyatt wrote:yellowyak46: Let's stop talking about jobs!
yellowyak46: *continues talking about jobs*


yeah that was largely my b, sorry

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Re: The Official June 2015 Waiter's Thread

Postby cdotson2 » Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:35 am

also I just looked at your tar yak, and laughed for like 4 mins cause I thought it was really ironic.
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Re: The Official June 2015 Waiter's Thread

Postby whacka » Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:36 am

buckiguy_sucks wrote:I just read the testmasters ad for the first time and noticed that the first score they report is just a diagnostic

That feels like cheating TBF I thought they were actual scores then retakes


I just thought it was all made up tbh. The names, scores, testimonials, all of it.

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Re: The Official June 2015 Waiter's Thread

Postby yellowyak46 » Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:36 am

cdotson2 wrote:also I just look at your tar yak, and laughed for like 4 mins cause i thought it was really ironic.


Lol @ farm animals/livestock!

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