The Official December 2015 Study Group

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Postby seashell.economy » Thu Oct 22, 2015 10:21 pm

emkay625 wrote:I know many of you are in here because you got a score tonight that was devastating.

Back in December 2009, I woke up to a score while at my in-laws for the holidays that was devastating. It was lower than ANY PT I had ever taken other than my diagnostic. I had prepped hard and followed all the TLS wisdom - used the Bibles, reviewed all questions even if I got them right, and had taken literally every PT available. Then somehow on test day I missed 7/8 on one reading passage. I sobbed in my in-laws living room.

Fast forward to my retake and I got the score I needed. Reusing study materials was not a problem. Got my score, got into my dream school.

Moral of the story: dropping in to tell you retakers that you CAN do this.


Thanks so much for dropping in to give us some advice : )
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Re: The Official December 2015 Study Group

Postby STL2014 » Thu Oct 22, 2015 10:30 pm

emkay625 wrote:I know many of you are in here because you got a score tonight that was devastating.

Back in December 2009, I woke up to a score while at my in-laws for the holidays that was devastating. It was lower than ANY PT I had ever taken other than my diagnostic. I had prepped hard and followed all the TLS wisdom - used the Bibles, reviewed all questions even if I got them right, and had taken literally every PT available. Then somehow on test day I missed 7/8 on one reading passage. I sobbed in my in-laws living room.

Fast forward to my retake and I got the score I needed. Reusing study materials was not a problem. Got my score, got into my dream school.

Moral of the story: dropping in to tell you retakers that you CAN do this.


Thanks Emkay. This is very inspirational.
I am looking at my devastating Oct score. Definitely retaking it in December because I don't back down from the fight. I will give myself another chance to get into my dream school.
I felt pretty bad before the Oct LSAT due to stress, school and family reasons. Now I feel calm and determined.

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Re: The Official December 2015 Study Group

Postby galeatus » Thu Oct 22, 2015 10:32 pm

WHO'S READY TO KICK LSAT'S ASS ON THEIR SECOND TRY?

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Re: The Official December 2015 Study Group

Postby flash21 » Thu Oct 22, 2015 10:41 pm

i'm honestly so shocked i received the exact same score as my last take. so ridiculous. i haven't touched lsat material since october . I will begin studying again tomorrow for a december retake (my third).

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Postby kylemolodets » Thu Oct 22, 2015 10:44 pm

The last 3 days have been terrible for studying, I'm going to have to really compensate over the next couple of days. Planning on my first PT in a long time on saturday then trying to do 2 a week until the big day. Ugh

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Re: The Official December 2015 Study Group

Postby flash21 » Thu Oct 22, 2015 10:47 pm

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flash21 wrote:i'm honestly so shocked i received the exact same score as my last take. so ridiculous. i haven't touched lsat material since october . I will begin studying again tomorrow for a december retake (my third).



I hear you. I took the LSAT twice a couple years ago, 159 and a 158 the second time. This time I got a 160 after PT's in the 164-165 range. Felt really good about LR and went -9 and -8. Going in for a fourth take (others are out of the 2 year period) and possibly a fifth if I end up taking another year off (the last thing I want to do since I have a job that I dislike going to every day.


it sucks man. this was one point lower than the lowest score I got out of all my PT's prepping for the last 5 months. my jaw actually dropped I CANT BELIEVE IT. I feel like the lsat is such a massive barrier for me. I even had a god awful (139) diagnostic and I still cannot just perform like I do on PT's on the real thing. I hate this so much, I can't believe I have to study again .. and its not like I slacked either . sigh.

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Postby fazzvm56 » Thu Oct 22, 2015 11:12 pm

Is anyone retaking, but postponing their retake to Feb/June? I took it this month and not at all satisfied with my score either (kind of freaked out during the first section) so I definitely want to retake but not right away. I feel like I need this time to re-collect myself mentally and get motivated again. Thinking I'll take a prep class (Manhattan?) in the Spring and hopefully do way better on the June.

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give me some ideas

Postby mcleemz » Thu Oct 22, 2015 11:12 pm

got my october score & at 165 it was the worst I've scored, PT or otherwise, since my 1st blind PT. My February score was 167 so I assumed with additional study I'd pick up the 3+ points I needed. My average PT is ~171.

I go -2 or better on RC without exception and -3 or -4 on one of the LRs. Problem is, I go -6+ on the other LR and I almost NEVER finish the LG. For example, this last test I went -0 through the 1st 14 and -6 over the last 9.

Those of you who have achieved your desired score on multiple retakes, what do you think I should do? Most likely I'm going to do 7sage and reuse all my practice PTs but I'm here for other suggestions. I have 3 jobs and not a lot of money.

btw the rest of my story: 3.81 GPA, I'm 32 so somewhat non-traditional applicant, because of where my wife will be working next year I can really only consider YHS, Col/NYU, Berkeley.

thanks y'all

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Re: The Official December 2015 Study Group

Postby flash21 » Thu Oct 22, 2015 11:13 pm

SirArthurDayne wrote:
flash21 wrote:
PatriotP74 wrote:
flash21 wrote:i'm honestly so shocked i received the exact same score as my last take. so ridiculous. i haven't touched lsat material since october . I will begin studying again tomorrow for a december retake (my third).



I hear you. I took the LSAT twice a couple years ago, 159 and a 158 the second time. This time I got a 160 after PT's in the 164-165 range. Felt really good about LR and went -9 and -8. Going in for a fourth take (others are out of the 2 year period) and possibly a fifth if I end up taking another year off (the last thing I want to do since I have a job that I dislike going to every day.


it sucks man. this was one point lower than the lowest score I got out of all my PT's prepping for the last 5 months. my jaw actually dropped I CANT BELIEVE IT. I feel like the lsat is such a massive barrier for me. I even had a god awful (139) diagnostic and I still cannot just perform like I do on PT's on the real thing. I hate this so much, I can't believe I have to study again .. and its not like I slacked either . sigh.


So you had a 139 diag and you're score was in the upper 150s. That's a significant achievement. Not saying you should settle but don't be hard on yourself. So what's the biggest problem, that you don't perform well on full PTs? How are you doing on individual sections??


I feel like I never became good at games like everyone else did. I went -9 I think (I'll double check tomorrow) on this past October test for example. It really screws me over. RC I'm usually hitting -7, -6 but I think I got -8 or something like that on this last test. I missed 5 alone on the final fucked up comparitive passage.

the trip is that my PT's were overall going better than ever before . even got a 166 on one of them, most being in the low 160 range. damn. anyway off to bed and hitting the gym in the a.m. going to try to figure this all out soon.

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Postby kylemolodets » Thu Oct 22, 2015 11:21 pm

BTW Welcome to hell all october retakers, at least we'll have Christmas to console us afterwards.

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Postby Cochran » Thu Oct 22, 2015 11:24 pm

theugg wrote:Hey retakers --- I have another story that will hopefully help.

I took my first test Sept 2014, coming in PTing at average 175. I was completely devastated by a 10 drop on the test. I hadn't gotten a 165 in MONTHS. It honestly put me over the edge and I experienced some of the worst few months of my life after. I couldn't figure out what I could have possibly done wrong on the first test.

However, the more I looked at it, the more I realized that stupid little mistakes really add up. I was able to change my study habits (REVIEW WHAT YOU MISSED. WRITE THAT SHIT DOWN!!!!) and really zero in on my weaknesses (RC). Most importantly, I had to realize that my past score WASN'T a good predictor of my potential and that it didn't define who I was as a person.

This test, I got the 173 I originally wanted. And I REALLY want everyone who's in the position I was in a year ago to not lose hope that they can improve their score, even if it feels like their score was way less than they had anticipated the first time around. Sure, it takes a little more fight and self-reflection, but you can do it!

Also, meditate! I swear, that helped me so much with my nerves.

Thanks for sharing, feel better about things after breathing and reading posts like these. I'm 100% in retaking for December

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Postby ngogirl12 » Thu Oct 22, 2015 11:25 pm

fazzvm56 wrote:Is anyone retaking, but postponing their retake to Feb/June? I took it this month and not at all satisfied with my score either (kind of freaked out during the first section) so I definitely want to retake but not right away. I feel like I need this time to re-collect myself mentally and get motivated again. Thinking I'll take a prep class (Manhattan?) in the Spring and hopefully do way better on the June.


I was going to take December, I'm registered and all, but my last PT really freaked me out. THAT, and I still am going through drilling with the 7Sage curriculum. I'm seriously thinking about taking it in June that gives me enough time to drill and do PT's. I'm still not PTing in the range I want to be in..

And, I haven't taken the full load of PT's yet, so the 60s and 70s range will still be fresh for me..

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