The Official October 2015 Study Group

How many PTs have you done? (timed)

0+
5
4%
5+
12
10%
10+
25
21%
15+
14
12%
20+
20
17%
25+
9
7%
30+
3
2%
35+
33
27%
 
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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby sanibella » Fri Sep 18, 2015 7:50 pm

flash21 wrote:
sanibella wrote:Second 180 today, woo!!! Pt 68!

I did 67 two days ago and also misread the rules for the zones game- not one, but TWO rules. Managed to recover but only realized one of the rules I read incorrectly so still got two wrong. Blah.


lol come on here happy that I accidentally put in a wrong answer on 7sage so my pt today was actually a 166 and not a 165 (both would be my highest scores anyway..) then I see this. congrats haha


Also flash, you are a heartbeat from 170s with your lg score. I would seriously drill games over and over if I were you.

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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby flash21 » Fri Sep 18, 2015 8:19 pm

sanibella wrote:
flash21 wrote:
sanibella wrote:Second 180 today, woo!!! Pt 68!

I did 67 two days ago and also misread the rules for the zones game- not one, but TWO rules. Managed to recover but only realized one of the rules I read incorrectly so still got two wrong. Blah.


lol come on here happy that I accidentally put in a wrong answer on 7sage so my pt today was actually a 166 and not a 165 (both would be my highest scores anyway..) then I see this. congrats haha


Also flash, you are a heartbeat from 170s with your lg score. I would seriously drill games over and over if I were you.


I'm going to re-print cambridge and drill them all again. at a loss what to do otherwise.. I was drilling a ton of sections but not sure if that was going to get me to -2-3 range .

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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby sanibella » Fri Sep 18, 2015 9:24 pm

flash21 wrote:
sanibella wrote:
flash21 wrote:
sanibella wrote:Second 180 today, woo!!! Pt 68!

I did 67 two days ago and also misread the rules for the zones game- not one, but TWO rules. Managed to recover but only realized one of the rules I read incorrectly so still got two wrong. Blah.


lol come on here happy that I accidentally put in a wrong answer on 7sage so my pt today was actually a 166 and not a 165 (both would be my highest scores anyway..) then I see this. congrats haha


Also flash, you are a heartbeat from 170s with your lg score. I would seriously drill games over and over if I were you.


I'm going to re-print cambridge and drill them all again. at a loss what to do otherwise.. I was drilling a ton of sections but not sure if that was going to get me to -2-3 range .


Did you follow 7sage foolproof where you drill the same game until you have all of the inferences perfectly? I cannot overemphasize how following that method to a t and drilling the same exact game 3 or 4 times in a row helped me.

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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby flash21 » Fri Sep 18, 2015 9:37 pm

honestly I did the fool proof method some what. I didn't do 10 games but typically I'd do 3-5 repeats of a game. I think tomorrow I'm going to print a ton of the games from cambridge and basically try to re-do them all before I PT again on Monday

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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby appind » Sat Sep 19, 2015 10:38 am

gamerish wrote:How do you guys judge your time when drilling RC? It's not like LG where JY just tells you how long a game should take.

Obviously you don't want to be spending like 12 minutes on a passage but I'm not sure how to go about evaluating my timing otherwise. I've pretty much been happy to finish them in under 8 minutes.

Edit: Should I just drill full sections? That seems like the only solution. Just kind of a pain with the Cambridge bundle.


if you usually finish rc passage in under 8 mins with accuracy, then you should have nothing to worry about. you're still well under time.
can you not just look at the watch and see how much time you're taking in different parts of the passage and evaluate it that way?

but if you have only been doing the older rc and your timing is based on old rc, then you need to do recent rc passages as they are more difficult and take more time.

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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby appind » Sat Sep 19, 2015 10:52 am

Egzon wrote:
chalky wrote:I'm debating just overhauling my RC method. Right now I spend about 2.5 mins on the passage and the other 5ish on questions, but yesterday I did an RC passage where I spent 5 mins on the passage and 2.5 on the questions with much better accuracy.

Thoughts?


Definitely spend more time on the passage. I used to spend less time on the passage and had to go back to the passage on many questions. You really need to ask yourself questions about the passage as you read: what is the main point of the paragraph and how does it relate to the overall main point? This takes a little more time and at the end of the passage try to summarize and map out the paragraphs with a couple of words. It really does help. I usually now go -3 on RC with a couple -2 and -4,5 but I'm more confident about my answers.


i have been spending more time on the passage. it ranges from anywhere between 4:00 min to 5:35 min. but trying to do 7q in 3:00 min has been tough even after a little better understanding of the passage due to more time spent. how much time are you spending on the passage? if you're doing modern pt rc how are you able to get through 7-8 questions in 3 mins?

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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby RZ5646 » Sat Sep 19, 2015 12:14 pm

According to a chart I saved a while ago, if you get 171 you are at or above the 75th percentile for most T14 schools. Kinda surprising, since here on TLS everyone is all "174+ or death!"

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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby 3pianists » Sat Sep 19, 2015 12:25 pm

Fun question: what are your preferred LSAT-taking clothes? I can't be the only one with a go-to PT outfit! :lol:

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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby nlee10 » Sat Sep 19, 2015 12:29 pm

3pianists wrote:Fun question: what are your preferred LSAT-taking clothes? I can't be the only one with a go-to PT outfit! :lol:

shorts and a tank.
Comfortability is key.
Plus I'm in socal so light is the way to go.

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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby RZ5646 » Sat Sep 19, 2015 12:36 pm

3pianists wrote:Fun question: what are your preferred LSAT-taking clothes? I can't be the only one with a go-to PT outfit! :lol:


Judicial robes with powdered wig. Dress for the job you want, not the job you have.

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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby TheProdigal » Sat Sep 19, 2015 12:49 pm

3pianists wrote:Fun question: what are your preferred LSAT-taking clothes? I can't be the only one with a go-to PT outfit! :lol:

Jeans, t-shirt, cable knit cardigan, desert boots. Layering is vital.

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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby PoopNpants » Sat Sep 19, 2015 12:52 pm

3pianists wrote:Fun question: what are your preferred LSAT-taking clothes? I can't be the only one with a go-to PT outfit! :lol:


A white T-shirt with "180 or die" written in sharpie w/ pajamas

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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby ltowns1 » Sat Sep 19, 2015 1:03 pm

RZ5646 wrote:According to a chart I saved a while ago, if you get 171 you are at or above the 75th percentile for most T14 schools. Kinda surprising, since here on TLS everyone is all "174+ or death!"



They may just be referring to HYS???

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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby EnderWiggin » Sat Sep 19, 2015 1:55 pm

gamerish wrote:173

I CRACKED 99TH PERCENTILE!!!


Congrats!!! Nothing like a PT breakthrough to make for a better weekend.

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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby MrBalloons » Sat Sep 19, 2015 4:17 pm

Haven't posted here in weeks.

Still on my streak of 170+ tests. Now at 9 in a row. Taking 72 or 73 tomorrow. At this point, I'd be pretty frustrated with anything sub 172 or so.

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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby nlee10 » Sat Sep 19, 2015 4:36 pm

gamerish wrote:For anyone who was curious (I was), curves for the last three years, counting back from June 2015, are:

-10
-12
-12
-13
-14
-12
-11
-12
-10

October/September curves for the last five years, counting back from September 2014, are:

-12
-12
-10
-13
-12

Hoping for at least a -11 or bigger. I honestly can't feel a difference when the LSAT is equalized on a smaller curve vs a bigger curve. Some sections are easier/harder than others and overall each PT is about the same.

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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby redfred22 » Sat Sep 19, 2015 5:01 pm

Boy, PTs 69+ really are a little different, huh? Anyone else feel the same?

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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby Egzon » Sat Sep 19, 2015 5:37 pm

appind wrote:
Egzon wrote:
chalky wrote:I'm debating just overhauling my RC method. Right now I spend about 2.5 mins on the passage and the other 5ish on questions, but yesterday I did an RC passage where I spent 5 mins on the passage and 2.5 on the questions with much better accuracy.

Thoughts?


Definitely spend more time on the passage. I used to spend less time on the passage and had to go back to the passage on many questions. You really need to ask yourself questions about the passage as you read: what is the main point of the paragraph and how does it relate to the overall main point? This takes a little more time and at the end of the passage try to summarize and map out the paragraphs with a couple of words. It really does help. I usually now go -3 on RC with a couple -2 and -4,5 but I'm more confident about my answers.


i have been spending more time on the passage. it ranges from anywhere between 4:00 min to 5:35 min. but trying to do 7q in 3:00 min has been tough even after a little better understanding of the passage due to more time spent. how much time are you spending on the passage? if you're doing modern pt rc how are you able to get through 7-8 questions in 3 mins?


I feel like the thing is not how much time you spend on a passage because it varies but I spend as much time as I need to have a thorough understanding of the passage. I usually have to go back to the passage for 2 questions on each passage, the other ones I go from wrong to right usually unless the question is straightforward. I'd say that I spend between 3 to 4 minutes on the passage itself and then 3 to 4 on the questions.


redfred22 wrote:Boy, PTs 69+ really are a little different, huh? Anyone else feel the same?


Yeah... I feel as if logical reasoning is even less mechanic than the earlier 60's which were already very different from the 50's and 40's. I just took PT69 and score a decent 171 but still, I felt unsure about my answers on lr and rightfully so because I dropped to a -5 for both sections...

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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby PoopNpants » Sat Sep 19, 2015 5:42 pm

Did PT 27 today with that wierd snakes and lizards game, i took this practice test way back in March. it had a pretty crazy curve for some reason, -16. didn't even think LSAT curves were that generous




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