The Official October 2015 Study Group

How many PTs have you done? (timed)

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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby Monkey D Luffy » Fri Aug 28, 2015 7:00 pm

Finally going to start PTing.....

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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby flash21 » Fri Aug 28, 2015 7:28 pm

i need to learn to let go. I keep bombing ONE of the LR sections purely due to not letting go.. like spending waay too much time on a question, and having to rush through other ones in LR.

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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby RZ5646 » Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:31 pm

PatriotP74 wrote:Anyone else here actually enjoy learning and school? I mean I know most here do to an extent, but like I've been out for 2 years and CANNOT wait to be back in a classroom (I think this is part of my attraction to law, it is always evolving and something new to learn). I just was going through some of my old boxes of textbooks to look for the old Manhattan RC guide I had, (I am/was a business major) and just started flipping through some finance and economics books while in my head saying after applications are out and I have more time I'm gonna come back and go through these. It also makes me question what kind of law I want to practice.....

I also feel like I will be that person that after law school and getting a few years (5-10) in the legal workplace, I will start working on a masters/PhD in something(business related most likely). I really have considered a dual degree program but I just am not sure taking that extra year of debt/time out of the workplace would be a great Idea. haha

Oh well, back to studying.


Grass is always greener bro. After a couple years in school you might want to get back into the real world just as bad.

Personally, when I started college I hoped to get a doctorate, become a professor, and basically never leave school; now, I wouldn't wish that life upon my worst enemy. I think law is cool and a good choice because it lets you use your intellect but is still connected to the "real world."

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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby RZ5646 » Fri Aug 28, 2015 9:22 pm

PatriotP74 wrote:
RZ5646 wrote:
Grass is always greener bro. After a couple years in school you might want to get back into the real world just as bad.


Always possible!

RZ5646 wrote:
I think law is cool and a good choice because it lets you use your intellect but is still connected to the "real world."


Exactly!


Good to see you back RZ, new poll time??


Yeah let's do it... what should we do? LSAC GPA?

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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby ariaaaa » Fri Aug 28, 2015 9:59 pm

Took PT45 and 46 today, with a break in between to drill MBT and Parallel Flaw/Reasoning. 167 and 168 respectively, with 5 weeks to go and a full course load at school, i'm getting incredibly anxious.

I feel like I need more practice to figure out that sweet spot between speed and attention to detail, especially on LR and RC. RC used to be my best section but it seems to keep getting worse. Not sure what's going on with that...

I think i'm going to call it a night for PT-ing, do some non-lsat related work or at least draft my PS, and take a fresh PT tomorrow morning.

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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby mist4bison » Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:37 pm

RZ5646 wrote:How did you go about requesting LoRs? Did you email them your resume, PT scores, PS? Advice about what you want highlighted?


I'm out of school, so I sent an email to my prof (who I've used as a reference before) and asked if he would be willing to write a letter of rec. I let him know I'd need it mid October, and offered to send additional materials. In my second email, I send my transcript with the classes I'd taken with him highlighted, a .zip of various assignments I had completed and one assignment with his comments, and in the body a few points about what I felt I got from his classes and how I thought I excelled. As an example, I discussed how I took a grad level course and the intro course at the same time and that showed devotion or some shit. And then talked about a project I did that I felt showed some sort of skills. Etc.

For my supervisor and lawyers I work with, I just asked in person.

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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby appind » Sat Aug 29, 2015 12:20 am

lymenheimer wrote:RC is my nervous section because I usually do the worst and have less room for error since if I misread one part of the passage it can cause me to miss most of the questions in that section. I went RC -2 on the June test and I am honestly surprised at that, but I did take some steps to improve my score on it. If you want to PM me instead of talking over everyone ITT, I'd be happy to try and help you work out some issues you may be having.

how much time do you take to read the passage in rc and then do the questions? how much time you have typically left at the end of new rc? i have tried to work toward the approach followed by many near perfect scorers in new RC of reading the passage very fast which takes about 1-2 min for them, but it hasn't yielded results.

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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby southerntexan » Sat Aug 29, 2015 12:21 am

I was called out today and asked to step up my game at work. I guess someone noticed that I was on the internet during the day.

See y'all in the evening, TLS.

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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby appind » Sat Aug 29, 2015 12:27 am

Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:Well I just registered.
Hooray for procrastination, would up with a test center 50 miles from where I live. Not exactly upset about it, I feel like a drive might help me calm down (I like driving).
Took June 2007 today, pretty bad test for me, but meh.


my test center is about the same distance and the thought of staying in the hotel the night before is making me a bit nervous. i would be more comfortable sleeping at my place before the test day but the test is in early morning.

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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby lymenheimer » Sat Aug 29, 2015 12:46 am

appind wrote:
lymenheimer wrote:RC is my nervous section because I usually do the worst and have less room for error since if I misread one part of the passage it can cause me to miss most of the questions in that section. I went RC -2 on the June test and I am honestly surprised at that, but I did take some steps to improve my score on it. If you want to PM me instead of talking over everyone ITT, I'd be happy to try and help you work out some issues you may be having.

how much time do you take to read the passage in rc and then do the questions? how much time you have typically left at the end of new rc? i have tried to work toward the approach followed by many near perfect scorers in new RC of reading the passage very fast which takes about 1-2 min for them, but it hasn't yielded results.


I usually read the passages in 3-3.5 minutes. If I don't understand the substance of the passage, I won't get the point/questions, so that's why I try to read for comprehension moreso than answering the questions. Also, I have worked on finding TCR better so that my answering only takes about 4 minutes on top of reading. So, speed reading isn't my thing, but if you are just going for question response, it might be the way to go. But like I said, I read for comprehension and that is because I feel like (and can pinpoint where) I miss important information when I speed-read. It usually ends up leveling out to about 8 minutes per section (32 total) with the easier sections going quicker and harder going longer...But I aim for 7-7.5 total, so that I don't freak out when I hit 8.

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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby appind » Sat Aug 29, 2015 3:17 am

lymenheimer wrote:I usually read the passages in 3-3.5 minutes. If I don't understand the substance of the passage, I won't get the point/questions, so that's why I try to read for comprehension moreso than answering the questions. Also, I have worked on finding TCR better so that my answering only takes about 4 minutes on top of reading. So, speed reading isn't my thing, but if you are just going for question response, it might be the way to go. But like I said, I read for comprehension and that is because I feel like (and can pinpoint where) I miss important information when I speed-read. It usually ends up leveling out to about 8 minutes per section (32 total) with the easier sections going quicker and harder going longer...But I aim for 7-7.5 total, so that I don't freak out when I hit 8.


4 mins to answer 7 questions is pretty good, esp for the recent rc.
a description of how you go about reading the passage would be useful. how many you typically miss in the pt 60+ rc?

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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby appind » Sat Aug 29, 2015 3:24 am

Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:I'm half thinking of getting a hotel, but I probably won't. It would be nice to just wake up, get breakfast and go to the center. Having to drive does mean I have to wake up earlier. Which is good for grogginess.


i had the same test center last june and i drove. the drive can be a bit of a fatigue. i probably don't want to stay in a hotel because new surroundings would make one feel extra pressured the night before.
there was a regular test center nearby but lsac shut down all centers in the city this year.

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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby lymenheimer » Sat Aug 29, 2015 10:07 am

appind wrote:
4 mins to answer 7 questions is pretty good, esp for the recent rc.
a description of how you go about reading the passage would be useful. how many you typically miss in the pt 60+ rc?


The tl;dr version: I underline key words/phrases (transition words, arguer identifiers, tone/mood indicators, lists) to reference back to. It helps me mentally map the components of the passage and helps me understand the substance because I am actively paying attention to those things. I used to struggle with paying attention to what I was reading, but once I began to take a (few) deep breath(s) before each passage, it really helped me focus. This kept me from having to reread substantive parts of the passage during my "reading time" which opened me up to more available time during the questions, which aren't that difficult if you read for substance and can go back to underlines which are often enough to respond to many of them. I have only taken the 52-61 PTs. Gonna be working on 62-71 here shortly. It still varied though. I missed between 4 and 6 (a majority condensed to one difficult passage - usually the philosophy/art or biographical). Paired with -0 on games and -4/5 on each LR section gets a high 160. Like I mentioned earlier, June test I was able to use this method and go RC -2, so it kind of varies for me depending upon the material, but I feel like focus is my main problem. Also, I just took an untimed PT (32), using this and I only missed 1 (and I usually miss about the same number regardless of speed, due to a misinterpretation of the question not a lack of time/rushing through the questions).

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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby Dexter97 » Sat Aug 29, 2015 1:12 pm

I FINALLY BROKE MY PT HIGH!!!! 173 on PT 61!!!!! :P

This is such a relief. My previous high was a 172 but my last 5 PTS were all 167-169. Looking back at the previous five though, I realized I took them all after ten hour shifts at work in the evening. Getting a solid nine hours of sleep and tackling the test in the morning does wonders. :shock:

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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby MrBalloons » Sat Aug 29, 2015 1:30 pm

gamerish wrote:BR'ing and schoolwork today, drilling and schoolwork tomorrow, PT and schoolwork on Monday.

The grind.

My grind starts Monday.

I think what's gonna help me is getting started consistently at 9 o'clock, which will give me 30 minutes two days a week and a couple hours 3 days a week for pre-class LSATing. And then a PT and BR on the weekends.




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