The Official October 2015 Study Group

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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby scalawag » Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:24 am

And I just need to edit this post because I am a douche bag when I don't smoke weed.

I will get blitzed out of my mind before I turn in anything where I have to write shit to a professor so I never get the eat shit and die look. You got to do it all esoteric or whatever bullshit 1Ls have stick to the facts.
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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby scalawag » Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:30 am

samikeesha wrote:Hello all! I am so new to this website and so confused! But I am taking the October LSAT! I am not taking any courses! I just finished Kaplan books, and was wondering should I review the materials then take practice tests or if I should finish Powerscore logic game bible, then review and then take practice tests! :S Please suggest what you think :)


Welcome hey I would be scoring 153-154 if it weren't for this website.

Powerscore books are great look the drills are what you have to do to get a good score. Buy these for each section on the LSAT

https://www.cambridgelsat.com/bundles/l ... s-by-type/

7 Sage in the beginning you'll have to watch some of their videos, I take some things from Kaplan but rarely I usually stick to powerscore but I use my own notation (combinations), sometimes to my peril. The more you drill the less you think a game has to be solved a certain way.

If you are dying to take in October you can start drilling now. Drill every type. Try to take a practice test at least once a week.

Before the test you have to prepare for endurance then it's less about your fundamentals and more about getting your brain to where you can concentrate for a long period of time. So take 6-8 section tests, combine them. You can download practice LSATs from Cambridge or buy the books from LSAC. But use actual LSATs - in the beginning I was worried but I think Kaplan tests are slightly harder (151 vs 153).

You can put it off if you aren't scoring high and almost everyone can hit 160 if you drill consistently.

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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby numb3r4 » Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:50 am

I must be missing the obvious but doesn't buying all the drilling packets take away from taking the actual practice tests since you've already seen some the questions? Or is the idea to drill on the PTs you have already taken? Or hope you'll have forgotten the question by the time you actually see it..? I do see the benefits of drilling, but am I missing something in how to implement it into your studies?

Alternatively maybe the drilling outweighs the downsides to seeing the questions before you take the test? Either way, perhaps someone could enlighten me! :D

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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby appind » Thu Aug 20, 2015 1:00 am

Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:
PoopNpants wrote:
I use a brother 2340DL, I get my cartidges off amazon for like 12$ its called E-Z toner and has great reviews. Printed out about 2000 pages so far and it still hasn't registered as being "low on toner" yet


Yeah I was looking at ez toner. I've also heard of 123inkjets.com there are a couple third party sellers that guarantee their cartridges so that would be nice. I've town through so much ink as it is im just tied of spending money on it lol.

I have a brother too, hl 2020d I think. Great printer.


i'll probably give this a try next time the cartridge needs replacement as long as it doesn't mess the printer. iirc some reviews for the printer had strongly suggested only using the new brother ink cartridge and that anything else may damage the printer. still the cost difference is significant

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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby appind » Thu Aug 20, 2015 1:16 am

MrBalloons wrote:
appind wrote:pt-60

lg -3 (all misses in g4)
lr1 -2 (q13, 15)
lr2 -1 (q24)
rc -8 (-1 in p3, -7 in p4 due to no time)

rc has been really hard to improve for me despite constant drilling. if i go too fast on passages i miss questions and if i read slowly i just can't get to all the passages/qs. i also thought that p1 and p4 were pretty hard passages and took way too long.

Since I took this test this week, I remember that 7sage had this RC section as a 5/5 hard. If that makes you feel better.


it felt pretty tough, i took over 13 mins for the first passage alone but 7:40 for the second passage. i thought 7sage only marked the passage difficulty and not of the whole RC section. i have been drilling rc but seems like it hasn't helped as timing is the main issue for me.
the ones here who go perfect in rc how fast do you read the passage, how much time you spend on questions, and how often you refer back to the passage?

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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby PhiladelphiaCollins » Thu Aug 20, 2015 1:29 am

MrBalloons wrote:
appind wrote:pt-60

lg -3 (all misses in g4)
lr1 -2 (q13, 15)
lr2 -1 (q24)
rc -8 (-1 in p3, -7 in p4 due to no time)

rc has been really hard to improve for me despite constant drilling. if i go too fast on passages i miss questions and if i read slowly i just can't get to all the passages/qs. i also thought that p1 and p4 were pretty hard passages and took way too long.

Since I took this test this week, I remember that 7sage had this RC section as a 5/5 hard. If that makes you feel better.


I took this one on Saturday and I tried reading the passages backwards (#4-#1) and found that that helped mostly because the contingency plan passage took so damn long, but I managed -7 (not great but an improvement), partly because the New Urbanism was pretty cut and dry.

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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby Dexter97 » Thu Aug 20, 2015 8:51 am

appind wrote:
Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:
PoopNpants wrote:
I use a brother 2340DL, I get my cartidges off amazon for like 12$ its called E-Z toner and has great reviews. Printed out about 2000 pages so far and it still hasn't registered as being "low on toner" yet


Yeah I was looking at ez toner. I've also heard of 123inkjets.com there are a couple third party sellers that guarantee their cartridges so that would be nice. I've town through so much ink as it is im just tied of spending money on it lol.

I have a brother too, hl 2020d I think. Great printer.


i'll probably give this a try next time the cartridge needs replacement as long as it doesn't mess the printer. iirc some reviews for the printer had strongly suggested only using the new brother ink cartridge and that anything else may damage the printer. still the cost difference is significant


Go with EPS toner on amazon. Much cheaper and lasts a pretty long time :wink:

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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby pterodactyls » Thu Aug 20, 2015 10:09 am

Had a minor setback last night. Took a 5 section test, using a LR section from an older test as experimental. Started the test around 10:00pm when I was already tired. Was hoping that RC would come towards the beginning, but alas, it was last. Being that I was half asleep for the second half of the test, I knew my RC score would be low.

PT #53, with experimental from PT #7.
LRexp: -3
LR1: -7
LG: -0
LR2: -5
RC: -10

Total -22, scaled 162.

The good news is, I've been drilling games for the last 3 weeks and I think it's starting to pay off. A few weeks ago I was missing 5-7 in games.

Going to blind review it today. I know, I broke the rules slightly. I scored myself on the answer sheet, forgot which ones I got wrong, and now going to BR on the test itself (not using answer sheet with markings). I just couldn't wait to see my score. I know my score will go up in BR because I was so sleepy last night.

Need to work on my RC, and then LR. Need to get RC down to a science. Picked up Manhattan RC guide, read first half of it so far. Picked up LSAT trainer as well but haven't started it. Also just need to start doing more prep tests.

Any other strategies/advice on improving RC? Also, any brief thoughts on 7sage courses? I need help on RC and LR, not so much games. Would it be worth the money?

Goal is 175. Hope is for October, but I know that it's highly likely I will end up retaking in December.

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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby MrBalloons » Thu Aug 20, 2015 10:39 am

appind wrote:
MrBalloons wrote:
appind wrote:pt-60

lg -3 (all misses in g4)
lr1 -2 (q13, 15)
lr2 -1 (q24)
rc -8 (-1 in p3, -7 in p4 due to no time)

rc has been really hard to improve for me despite constant drilling. if i go too fast on passages i miss questions and if i read slowly i just can't get to all the passages/qs. i also thought that p1 and p4 were pretty hard passages and took way too long.

Since I took this test this week, I remember that 7sage had this RC section as a 5/5 hard. If that makes you feel better.


it felt pretty tough, i took over 13 mins for the first passage alone but 7:40 for the second passage. i thought 7sage only marked the passage difficulty and not of the whole RC section. i have been drilling rc but seems like it hasn't helped as timing is the main issue for me.
the ones here who go perfect in rc how fast do you read the passage, how much time you spend on questions, and how often you refer back to the passage?

The section difficult ratings are under Section Performance on the Trends page at 7sage.

I don't always, or even usually, go -0 RC, but I went -1 on the RC in question. I fly through the reading just watching for main points, transitions, arguments, etc. I don't mark anything. I have a lot of success with this, but I don't imagine that it's the only way to do well.

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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby thetravelinglawyer » Thu Aug 20, 2015 11:50 am

New to this forum, so go easy on me! :)

I'm in a weird situation, and only just realized two weeks ago that I need to take the LSAT in October, so basically I had/have just under two months to study. For three of those weeks I'll be traveling so it's really more like one month (yaaaaaaay). I got the Powerscore LGB (finished) and LRB (halfway finished) which I am working through on the weekends, and during the week I am taking a Practice Test every other day (due to work obligations I don't have much more time to devote unfortunately). I'm finding that I'm averaging 168-172 on old tests (30s) and 162-165 on new tests (60-70s). I thought maybe old tests were easier but from what I've seen here that's subjective, so now I'm wondering what that means for me. My scores are all over the place, sometimes I'll bomb one section type and sometimes another. I guess I'll just keep at it!

I wish I had the man hours to just read this entire forum!! It seems like a treasure trove of info, but any spare minute I have to read gets spent on studying or taking PTs. Speaking of -- back to work!! Good luck everyone!

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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby bnssweeney » Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:48 pm

Also thanks to everyone who gave me advice for weakening questions. I can't quote all of you or else my post would be a page long but don't think you've gone unacknowledged!

Doing MBT questions today and it seems to be going better than weakening. Taking a PT tomorrow and Saturday morning. Still deciding which ones to do.

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Postby ltowns1 » Thu Aug 20, 2015 3:06 pm

PatriotP74 wrote:So is it just me or does anyone else already have a study plan starting Octiber 4th for December? :cry:



I would say it's more like a contingency plan lol. After the October test, I will basically act like I got a 140 and proceed to study as if I had never even taken the test in October until I know otherwise.

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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby ltowns1 » Thu Aug 20, 2015 5:12 pm

Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:
gamerish wrote:Well PT39 was a train wreck. My watch broke at some point after the first game which completely through me off for the rest of the section. I wasn't even at the 4th game when the 5 minute mark was called. I wound up skipping 4 questions and I had circled over half of the questions for BR when I usually circle less than 5. I knew it'd gone horribly so I gave up taking it as a PT and graded it. I missed 6 in just LG.

Gonna try to take a different PT tomorrow.



That sucks. Sometimes a PT just doesn't go well. It's probably good you stopped taking it as a PT, probably would have just made you feel bad. I know I've had a couple where I should have just given up on taking a test that day.


That's good to know, that happens to me as well

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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby seashell.economy » Thu Aug 20, 2015 7:59 pm

Took PT #41 today - then realized that since I got PT #41 from a PDF that someone emailed me, it doesn't have the score guide that the LSAC SuperPrep books have in the back of each PT. How do I figure out my actual score w/curve for PT #41?
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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby Dexter97 » Thu Aug 20, 2015 8:20 pm

Took PT 57 today and got a 170. I did better on LR this time around but the RC passage rocked me! Stupid passage on fractals :?

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