The Official October 2015 Study Group

How many PTs have you done? (timed)

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5
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10%
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25
21%
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25+
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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby PoopNpants » Wed Aug 19, 2015 2:37 pm

appind wrote:
PoopNpants wrote:anyone know a good way to print out practice tests double sided without having to flip back and forth for Reading Comp? it's such a pain in the ass

print the 1st page separately as one sided

print 2nd page to last page in one go as double sided

reverse the 1st printed page so the printed side faces the 2nd page from the second step

staple the bunch and you are set


thanks dog

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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby PoopNpants » Wed Aug 19, 2015 3:22 pm

Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:
PoopNpants wrote:
appind wrote:
PoopNpants wrote:anyone know a good way to print out practice tests double sided without having to flip back and forth for Reading Comp? it's such a pain in the ass

print the 1st page separately as one sided

print 2nd page to last page in one go as double sided

reverse the 1st printed page so the printed side faces the 2nd page from the second step

staple the bunch and you are set


thanks dog


In line with printing, anyone know places to get cheap ink/paper online? I'm not down for 50$ drums, but ISO how much I trust some of the other suppliers.


Are you talking about toner or ink? I get cheap toner off amazon

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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby appind » Wed Aug 19, 2015 3:31 pm

Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:
PoopNpants wrote:
appind wrote:
PoopNpants wrote:anyone know a good way to print out practice tests double sided without having to flip back and forth for Reading Comp? it's such a pain in the ass

print the 1st page separately as one sided

print 2nd page to last page in one go as double sided

reverse the 1st printed page so the printed side faces the 2nd page from the second step

staple the bunch and you are set


thanks dog


In line with printing, anyone know places to get cheap ink/paper online? I'm not down for 50$ drums, but ISO how much I trust some of the other suppliers.


I have a brother 2270dw printer. the cartridge that has a capacity of 2600 pages costs about 50 dollars on amazon. there are refurbished cartridges that cost much less on amazon but not sure how good they are or if they could mess up the printer.

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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby MrBalloons » Wed Aug 19, 2015 3:35 pm

appind wrote:pt-60

lg -3 (all misses in g4)
lr1 -2 (q13, 15)
lr2 -1 (q24)
rc -8 (-1 in p3, -7 in p4 due to no time)

rc has been really hard to improve for me despite constant drilling. if i go too fast on passages i miss questions and if i read slowly i just can't get to all the passages/qs. i also thought that p1 and p4 were pretty hard passages and took way too long.

Since I took this test this week, I remember that 7sage had this RC section as a 5/5 hard. If that makes you feel better.

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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby PoopNpants » Wed Aug 19, 2015 3:38 pm

appind wrote:
Mint-Berry_Crunch wrote:
PoopNpants wrote:
appind wrote:
PoopNpants wrote:anyone know a good way to print out practice tests double sided without having to flip back and forth for Reading Comp? it's such a pain in the ass

print the 1st page separately as one sided

print 2nd page to last page in one go as double sided

reverse the 1st printed page so the printed side faces the 2nd page from the second step

staple the bunch and you are set


thanks dog


In line with printing, anyone know places to get cheap ink/paper online? I'm not down for 50$ drums, but ISO how much I trust some of the other suppliers.


I have a brother 2270dw printer. the cartridge that has a capacity of 2600 pages costs about 50 dollars on amazon. there are refurbished cartridges that cost much less on amazon but not sure how good they are or if they could mess up the printer.


I use a brother 2340DL, I get my cartidges off amazon for like 12$ its called E-Z toner and has great reviews. Printed out about 2000 pages so far and it still hasn't registered as being "low on toner" yet

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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby TheWalkingDebt » Wed Aug 19, 2015 3:52 pm

How's this madhouse holding down? Haven't picked studying back up, but officially IRL friend with TheProdigal.

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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby RZ5646 » Wed Aug 19, 2015 4:53 pm

gamerish wrote:Drilled complex ordering games and necessary assumption questions today.

LG went fine-ish. LR was awful. Out of a 20 question section I missed 5 in a row and each of them was a 50/50 between "the most tempting" wrong answer and the right one. I think I could've gotten several of them right had I used the negation test, which I completely forgot about, but the weakness there is still evident.

Taking PT39 tomorrow. It's the oldest PT I'll have taken by a mile so I'm a bit worried that I should take a newer PT instead. Does anyone have a say on it one way or the other?


I think the differences in PTs are exaggerated.

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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby samikeesha » Wed Aug 19, 2015 5:16 pm

Hello all! I am so new to this website and so confused! But I am taking the October LSAT! I am not taking any courses! I just finished Kaplan books, and was wondering should I review the materials then take practice tests or if I should finish Powerscore logic game bible, then review and then take practice tests! :S Please suggest what you think :)

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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby RZ5646 » Wed Aug 19, 2015 6:48 pm

somethingelse55 wrote:
RZ5646 wrote:
gamerish wrote:Drilled complex ordering games and necessary assumption questions today.

LG went fine-ish. LR was awful. Out of a 20 question section I missed 5 in a row and each of them was a 50/50 between "the most tempting" wrong answer and the right one. I think I could've gotten several of them right had I used the negation test, which I completely forgot about, but the weakness there is still evident.

Taking PT39 tomorrow. It's the oldest PT I'll have taken by a mile so I'm a bit worried that I should take a newer PT instead. Does anyone have a say on it one way or the other?


I think the differences in PTs are exaggerated.


Completely agree. I think that there's really only two differences:

1) The older PTs (and I mean 1-20 range) have more of the "miscellaneous" games.
2) RC from 2007 on has the comparative reading.

Other than that they basically feel more or less the same to me.


I'm guessing they largely removed those games that don't fit the usual patterns because those games weren't very good at differentiating skill levels. I've noticed they're often the first game in a section, and so probably intended to be easy, and they are easy, if you get the "trick" to them and adapt quickly, but if you don't then you're screwed. Thus they end up dividing test takers into a group that got all the questions right and a group that got almost all of them wrong, which isn't very useful from a testing perspective, while the traditional games simply use inference chain length to scale difficulty with nice gradations, yielding a reliable and precise bell curve.

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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby bigv » Wed Aug 19, 2015 6:57 pm

Anyone have any advice on how I can get closer to my BR score?

I'm testing in the upper 150's, and BRing in the lower 170's. Worst section is reading comp, missing about 10 per timed section, best is games, rarely missing any. LR is usually -5 per section, but I'm almost always able to correct any mistakes during BR.

Also, if I take a RC section untimed, I'm getting -0 or -1 at worst.

I've taken about 6 practice tests in total. I will continue to PT and blind review obviously. I'm sure many here have been able to successfully close in on similar gaps in BR scores. I'd love to know how you went about it and how long/how many PT it took to get your timing right.

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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby bnssweeney » Wed Aug 19, 2015 7:42 pm

samikeesha wrote:Hello all! I am so new to this website and so confused! But I am taking the October LSAT! I am not taking any courses! I just finished Kaplan books, and was wondering should I review the materials then take practice tests or if I should finish Powerscore logic game bible, then review and then take practice tests! :S Please suggest what you think :)


Welcome to TLS!

Just a heads up about Kaplan. I did Kaplan against the advice of many people on this board (99% because I paid for it already), and let's just say I'm 1000000% retaking this October.

I recommend the Powerscore Logical Reasoning Bible. I went through it towards the end of my prep for the June test, and it helped. I am currently reading it over now before my October retake. It's highly recommended here on TLS. It's Logic Games Bible is said to be very useful too, but I personally like Blueprint. I also have no used the Powerscore LGB.

I also recommend taking as many PTs as you can. Some timed sections can help marginally, but there is nothing that compares to taking timed PTs under test-like conditions.

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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby Dexter97 » Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:54 pm

Did some of the Determined LG packet which was fine...but the LR weaken packet is kicking my ass! Im going to do PT 57 tomorrow and see how it goes. My highest PT is a 173 but sometimes my scores will drop down to like a 167. I need to find a way to be more consistent. :roll:

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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby MrBalloons » Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:24 pm

Dexter97 wrote:Did some of the Determined LG packet which was fine...but the LR weaken packet is kicking my ass! Im going to do PT 57 tomorrow and see how it goes. My highest PT is a 173 but sometimes my scores will drop down to like a 167. I need to find a way to be more consistent. :roll:

I feel you there. My range over my last 9 is 166 to 174.

My last three have all been 170+s, though, so I'm working under the assumption that I've broken the plateau.

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Re: The Official October 2015 Study Group

Postby MrBalloons » Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:09 am

somethingelse55 wrote:Those RC questions that ask you what the author thinks about something in two words (e.g., mild skepticism) really piss me off sometimes lol. I've noticed that pretty much every time, TCR is relatively weak, like it will be "qualified approval" instead of "unrelenting enthusiasm." Course today I'm working on one and its the stronger choice. IMO those questions are pretty subjective.

Really? These are honestly my favorite RC questions. I wish I had a strategy to tell you that would help, but I really don't.

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