DECEMBER 2014 WAITERS

When will scores be released?

December 29th (Monday) or earlier
35
16%
December 30th (Tuesday)
9
4%
December 31st (Wednesday)
8
4%
January 1st (Thursday)
14
6%
January 2nd (Friday)
115
51%
January 3rd (Saturday)
10
4%
January 4th (Sunday)
5
2%
January 5th (Monday, Official Due-by Date)
28
13%
 
Total votes: 224

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Re: DECEMBER 2014 WAITERS

Postby jw316 » Mon Dec 08, 2014 2:21 pm

koala-fy wrote:
Dirigo wrote:
smccgrey wrote:Is this literally a conversation about milk or are you carefully using euphemisms to avoid getting lounged?

Tits.


Ugh is it that obvious??


London breastmilk ice cream with titty sprinkles. Ben & Jerry's got nothin on me

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Re: DECEMBER 2014 WAITERS

Postby koala-fy » Mon Dec 08, 2014 2:23 pm

nlee, did you just talk about macros?? Do you do IIFYM?! I think I love you

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Re: DECEMBER 2014 WAITERS

Postby Wieters » Mon Dec 08, 2014 2:23 pm

IsThisForReal wrote:
Wieters wrote:
IsThisForReal wrote:
Rhymes With Wolf wrote:But hormone infused milk spares me the added expense of having to purchase HGH. :?

Ahem. There are no added hormones in milk sold in the US. rBST was the synthetic form of a hormone that cows already produce and the hormone doesn't show up in the milk anyway. But producers have completely stopped using it because of public concern. Now if you get reconstituted milk from Mexico, through Sam's or Walmart, I can't tell you what's in that. But milk is quite rigorously tested and the only difference between raw and not, is that it hasn't been pasturized (heated to a high temp quickly and cooled back down) and sometimes homogonized (pushed through a screen that breaks up fat globules).


Technically, maybe, but raw milk is usually indicative. Industrial operations don't produce raw milk, small ones do. Small ones (especially those who are going out of their way to produce raw milk) are more inclined to raise their livestock more holistically.

Ha. No. Go visit a dairy. Cows will not produce enough milk to be financially beneficial if you don't treat them well. In robotic parlors where cows are given the choice of when and how often to be milked they end up going like 6 times a day. The main reason farmers do organic or raw anything is because they know people will pay crazy amount for it. It is the biggest pain in the ass to get certified. And most of it doesn't even make sense.


Treating them "well" exists along a spectrum; my standard for "well" is not whether or not the cows can literally survive long enough to excrete milk through their udders. If you're making any sort of an informed choice then actually grass-fed/minimally processed is going to be a better decision than standard milk. That doesn't even seem controvertible to me, just more so whether or not you can justify the price/fuss.

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Re: DECEMBER 2014 WAITERS

Postby peppermint » Mon Dec 08, 2014 2:26 pm

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Re: DECEMBER 2014 WAITERS

Postby IsThisForReal » Mon Dec 08, 2014 2:27 pm

Wieters wrote:Treating them "well" exists along a spectrum; my standard for "well" is not whether or not the cows can literally survive long enough to excrete milk through their udders. If you're making any sort of an informed choice then actually grass-fed/minimally processed is going to be a better decision than standard milk. That doesn't even seem controvertible to me, just more so whether or not you can justify the price/fuss.

Well means the cows are happy and comfortable. If a cow is not happy/comfortable/healthy she will not produce much milk. I believe that I am the most informed ITT when it comes to milk and dairies. What is your rationale for the bolded? Cows are treated just as good in a grass-fed operation as they are in a larger operation.

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Re: DECEMBER 2014 WAITERS

Postby Rigo » Mon Dec 08, 2014 2:28 pm

:mrgreen:
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Re: DECEMBER 2014 WAITERS

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Re: DECEMBER 2014 WAITERS

Postby mist4bison » Mon Dec 08, 2014 2:29 pm

Dirigo wrote:
peppermint wrote:
koala-fy wrote:nlee, did you just talk about macros?? Do you do IIFYM?! I think I love you

Nlee's getting all the ladies now! Besides me & rfhassan, now you have koala. Get 'em, nlee ;)

Nlee needs to pw.


I figure we can give him til the Feb Waiters thread. But only until then. Feb 7th and it's go time, Nlee.

ETA: Jgoods and pep, too.
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Re: DECEMBER 2014 WAITERS

Postby GreenTee » Mon Dec 08, 2014 2:30 pm

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Re: DECEMBER 2014 WAITERS

Postby Wieters » Mon Dec 08, 2014 2:30 pm

IsThisForReal wrote:
Wieters wrote:Treating them "well" exists along a spectrum; my standard for "well" is not whether or not the cows can literally survive long enough to excrete milk through their udders. If you're making any sort of an informed choice then actually grass-fed/minimally processed is going to be a better decision than standard milk. That doesn't even seem controvertible to me, just more so whether or not you can justify the price/fuss.

I believe that I am the most informed ITT when it comes to milk and dairies.


Which one of the following is a questionable reasoning technique employed in the argument?

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Re: DECEMBER 2014 WAITERS

Postby Rigo » Mon Dec 08, 2014 2:31 pm

:mrgreen:
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Re: DECEMBER 2014 WAITERS

Postby jw316 » Mon Dec 08, 2014 2:33 pm

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Re: DECEMBER 2014 WAITERS

Postby Rhymes With Wolf » Mon Dec 08, 2014 2:33 pm

But her argument that

IsThisForReal wrote: If a cow is not happy/comfortable/healthy she will not produce much milk.

is probably true, especially now that rBST isn't used to stimulate lactation, right?
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Re: DECEMBER 2014 WAITERS

Postby koala-fy » Mon Dec 08, 2014 2:33 pm

GreenTee wrote:nlee:
hereisonehand wrote:PW or GTFO


Yes.

Says the person who still has yet to PW :oops:

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Re: DECEMBER 2014 WAITERS

Postby GreenTee » Mon Dec 08, 2014 2:33 pm

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Re: DECEMBER 2014 WAITERS

Postby BillPackets » Mon Dec 08, 2014 2:34 pm

jw316 wrote:.

nice try bud

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Re: DECEMBER 2014 WAITERS

Postby Gray » Mon Dec 08, 2014 2:34 pm


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    Re: DECEMBER 2014 WAITERS

    Postby jw316 » Mon Dec 08, 2014 2:35 pm

    BillPackets wrote:
    jw316 wrote:.

    nice try bud


    Hey! I tried!

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    Re: DECEMBER 2014 WAITERS

    Postby nlee10 » Mon Dec 08, 2014 2:35 pm

    peppermint wrote:
    koala-fy wrote:nlee, did you just talk about macros?? Do you do IIFYM?! I think I love you

    Nlee's getting all the ladies now! Besides me & rfhassan, now you have koala. Get 'em, nlee ;)


    IIFYM is the way to go. I felt miserable following a typical bro diet of rice/chicken/broccoli. :roll:



    mist4bison wrote:
    Dirigo wrote:
    peppermint wrote:
    koala-fy wrote:nlee, did you just talk about macros?? Do you do IIFYM?! I think I love you

    Nlee's getting all the ladies now! Besides me & rfhassan, now you have koala. Get 'em, nlee ;)

    Nlee needs to pw.


    I figure we can give him til the Feb Waiters thread. But only until then. Feb 7th and it's go time, Nlee.

    ETA: Jgoods and pep, too.


    :wink:

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    Re: DECEMBER 2014 WAITERS

    Postby GreenTee » Mon Dec 08, 2014 2:35 pm


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      Re: DECEMBER 2014 WAITERS

      Postby GreenTee » Mon Dec 08, 2014 2:35 pm

      jw316 wrote:
      BillPackets wrote:
      jw316 wrote:.

      nice try bud


      Hey! I tried!


      A for effort.

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      Re: DECEMBER 2014 WAITERS

      Postby jw316 » Mon Dec 08, 2014 2:36 pm


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      Re: DECEMBER 2014 WAITERS

      Postby jw316 » Mon Dec 08, 2014 2:38 pm

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      Re: DECEMBER 2014 WAITERS

      Postby Rhymes With Wolf » Mon Dec 08, 2014 2:38 pm

      Whenever I see a string of blank posts, I think of this for some reason:

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      Re: DECEMBER 2014 WAITERS

      Postby Rigo » Mon Dec 08, 2014 2:39 pm

      :mrgreen:
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