DECEMBER 2014 WAITERS Forum

[Yeezus]

Re: wolf of wall street. I hope I'm not the only one who thinks jonah hill steals the show. He was perfect. Oscar nomination well-deserved.

How could anyone not love a crack-smoking cousin fckr?

That quaalude scene is fucking hilarious.

[PeanutsNJam]

Re: wolf of wall street. I hope I'm not the only one who thinks jonah hill steals the show. He was perfect. Oscar nomination well-deserved.

How could anyone not love a crack-smoking cousin fckr?

That quaalude scene is fucking hilarious.

I've always been confused as to how to pronounce this word. In the movie I just recall them saying "loodes".

[Rigo]

[Yeezus]

That cerebral palsy line from Wolf of Wall Street made me laugh so hard I cried. I am a terrible person.

[peger]

It could be different for everyone but in my experience I never had a problem with taking breaks and losing much progress. I took a couple of month long breaks over the year that I studied and the concepts always returned very quickly. If anything, time away helped the concepts to further solidify and become clearer when returning to studying. Just my personal experience

+1 on this. I took the June test. I stopped studying from June to August and the first PT I took my scored jumped over 5 points from my June LSAT score. I think the time off to relax helped, but even more, everything I had been learning had been given the opportunity to turn into long term memory verse short term memory.

Definitely. I understand people's neurosis w/r/t studying for this test because every point means $$$ saved, but the level everyone takes preparation to is just counterproductive. Burning yourself out months before the test is definitely detrimental.

[Rooneykins]

I also found that I didn't gain the same benefit if I only took a week or two break. I found that wasn't enough time for my brain to fully process the information. It was almost as if I needed to forget a little bit for me to be able to come back to it with a fresh perspective. Every single time this happened the material seemed easier than I remembered it being. I am totally not here to tell people not to study so don't take it that way haha but if you HAVE been studying for months at a time a significant break (around a month or so) could be beneficial.

[creedbratton]

I also found that I didn't gain the same benefit if I only took a week or two break. I found that wasn't enough time for my brain to fully process the information. It was almost as if I needed to forget a little bit for me to be able to come back to it with a fresh perspective. Every single time this happened the material seemed easier than I remembered it being. I am totally not here to tell people not to study so don't take it that way haha but if you HAVE been studying for months at a time a significant break (around a month or so) could be beneficial.

completely agree. I took the test in september, then retook in december. I waited until I saw my score to consider retaking. and after that I even waited a week to start back up again. I jumped right back into pt's, spent a lot of extra time going back through each question I wasn't 100% on, and was right back at my pre-september pt average within a few tests. my average jumped by 6 points within two more weeks. sometimes all you need is a break. the LSAT never leaves you. or at least it doesn't in a month

[starry eyed]

I also found that I didn't gain the same benefit if I only took a week or two break. I found that wasn't enough time for my brain to fully process the information. It was almost as if I needed to forget a little bit for me to be able to come back to it with a fresh perspective. Every single time this happened the material seemed easier than I remembered it being. I am totally not here to tell people not to study so don't take it that way haha but if you HAVE been studying for months at a time a significant break (around a month or so) could be beneficial.

completely agree. I took the test in september, then retook in december. I waited until I saw my score to consider retaking. and after that I even waited a week to start back up again. I jumped right back into pt's, spent a lot of extra time going back through each question I wasn't 100% on, and was right back at my pre-september pt average within a few tests. my average jumped by 6 points within two more weeks. sometimes all you need is a break. the LSAT never leaves you. or at least it doesn't in a month

I agree with this. My first take was in oct 2012, and did not start reviewing again until two weeks before the dec 2014. I'll take it a step further and say it doesn't leave you even after two years. Even during my latest prep, LG was the only section i had to put a lot of focus into remastering.

[GreenTee]

Definitely. I understand people's neurosis w/r/t studying for this test because every point means $$$ saved, but the level everyone takes preparation to is just counterproductive. Burning yourself out months before the test is definitely detrimental.

I'm on board with the idea that taking time off helps, but this post takes it a step too far. IME, time off is only beneficial when you actually need it. If you start getting splitting LSAT headaches from burnout, and you take time off, your skill level will make a huge jump when you come back from the rest period. But if you're not pushing yourself to your limits, a break will do absolutely nothing for you.

[peger]

I used to think that not that many people pushed themselves too much to the point where studying was counterproductive, but seeing people talk about finishing every practice test known to man months in advance and cramming practice sessions in the morning of the test changed my mind.

[GreenTee]

I used to think that not that many people pushed themselves too much to the point where studying was counterproductive, but seeing people talk about finishing every practice test known to man months in advance and cramming practice sessions in the morning of the test changed my mind.

Yeah, to me this sounds like (1) adequate preparation and (2) a warmup.
As long as we're being smart with our rest periods, literally no amount of preparation is "counterproductive."

[PeanutsNJam]

The people who have "finished every PT months in advance" are re-takers. Let's no get carried away with our anecdotes here. Doing warm up LR questions/games is not a bad idea, so you're already in the zone. If you're not averaging 170+, or at least 165+, you haven't prepared enough. I believe the test is definitely learnable by anybody up to 170. Any higher might not be achievable for EVERONE, but you only need 166+ for T14 anyway with a good GPA.

[Gray]

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[Rigo]

[peger]

I used to think that not that many people pushed themselves too much to the point where studying was counterproductive, but seeing people talk about finishing every practice test known to man months in advance and cramming practice sessions in the morning of the test changed my mind.

Yeah, to me this sounds like (1) adequate preparation and (2) a warmup.
As long as we're being smart with our rest periods, literally no amount of preparation is "counterproductive."

I'm sure the girl at my test site who was rushing through LG warm ups felt the same way. Given she vomited during the break I'm not so sure it was all that helpful for her.

Obviously preparation is vital, but half the battle on the day of the test is controlling your nerves in order to maintain composure and concentration, and driving yourself to a frenzy with practice tests isn't going to do that. I'm not saying do nothing, but it's important to know your limits and not push yourself too hard.

But yeah, this is a thread for waiters so fuck it. Back to Housewives talk.

[Rigo]

[2654815451]

I'm getting anxious about my score!!!!!

[GreenTee]

I'm sure the girl at my test site who was rushing through LG warm ups felt the same way. Given she vomited during the break I'm not so sure it was all that helpful for her.

Obviously preparation is vital, but half the battle on the day of the test is controlling your nerves in order to maintain composure and concentration, and driving yourself to a frenzy with practice tests isn't going to do that. I'm not saying do nothing, but it's important to know your limits and not push yourself too hard.

You're assuming that everyone is at least marginally capable of "controlling their nerves" on test day. But that's just not true. People with severe testing anxiety have to prepare much harder to score at the same level as people who don't. The test literally has to be second nature for them, since their conscious brain will be busy freaking tf out for most of it. Working less and relaxing more during the prep period will not help people with testing anxiety. It will probably make them more anxious, since they're not as prepared as they could possibly be.

[GreenTee]

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[Big Red]

"y'all" is a southron term - yes or no?

[thatlawlkid]

So has anyone managed to seduce an LSAC employee and figure out when grey day will be yet?

[Rigo]

[hillz]

Pretty much what test day morning was like for me, GT.

[Rigo]

[earthabides]

"y'all" is a southron term - yes or no?

I've heard a few people from rural Ontario throw around "y'all" but "yous guys" (with the s on you) is definitely more popular.

EDIT: Confederation flags are also pretty popular