The Official December 2014 Study Group

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Re: The Official December 2014 Study Group

Postby justdoit11 » Thu Nov 27, 2014 8:39 pm

hey guys, when you drill your weaknesses this week, do you consider timing also? or just getting the questions right as your priority? timing has been a little off for me. I think im spending too much time on the first 15 questions (more on the 11-15th)

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Re: The Official December 2014 Study Group

Postby KanGaHru » Thu Nov 27, 2014 9:00 pm

justdoit11 wrote:hey guys, when you drill your weaknesses this week, do you consider timing also? or just getting the questions right as your priority? timing has been a little off for me. I think im spending too much time on the first 15 questions (more on the 11-15th)


With enough practice under timed conditions, timing should just be second nature. The 15 in 15 minute rule does not always apply and so id suggest simply trying to recognize the difficult questions vs the easy ones. You probably just need more timed practice.

When im drilling LR, i usually just focus on understanding the question and answers perfectly and ignore timing.

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Re: The Official December 2014 Study Group

Postby portmanteaux » Thu Nov 27, 2014 10:12 pm

flash21 wrote:guys, my LR skills honestly disappeared... I went from consistently getting 20-21, now I am getting 16-17 on atlesat one of the two sections, and also getting like 19 or maybe if I am lucky 20 on the other.. I dont know wtf is happening.. of course it all falls apart when this thing is in a fuckin week



I noticed this happened to me when I was speeding up too much. As my confidence increased, so did my speed, but then I started speeding up too much and my accuracy suffered. Make sure you analyze the root of your mistakes. You'll bounce back!!

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Re: The Official December 2014 Study Group

Postby portmanteaux » Thu Nov 27, 2014 10:18 pm

Happy Thanksgiving everyone! I had my best PT score yet today.
PT 66
RC:-0
LR: -0
LG: -0
LR: -5
176

My previous highest score was 173. Yesterday I took a PT and scored 164, so I'm a little concerned about the huge fluctuations. I found that the last passage on PT73 really threw me, and I completely bombed the games section for 72 and 73. For those of you who had a hard time with those games, how are you preparing/adjusting your prep? I'm thinking about re-doing the Rare games Cambridge set.

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Postby zxbn579 » Thu Nov 27, 2014 10:37 pm

Any ideas on how I can get my hands on just the LG sections from PT 60-PT 66? I don't want to buy the test again as I already bought them once in the 10 Actual, Official etc., but I was dumb and did not make clean copies of them before I took the PTs.
To this date, it is just that LG section is what represents the vast abyss between me and the 170. Thus I figured (as Dirigo suggested earlier on this thread) I should just take like 10 LG sections and redo them a few times. I still haven't touched PT 67-73 so those games I can make copies of tomorrow.

Giving you many thanks, hope you didn't have as much wine as I did today.

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Re: The Official December 2014 Study Group

Postby dasani13 » Fri Nov 28, 2014 12:00 am

portmanteaux wrote:Happy Thanksgiving everyone! I had my best PT score yet today.
PT 66
RC:-0
LR: -0
LG: -0
LR: -5
176

My previous highest score was 173. Yesterday I took a PT and scored 164, so I'm a little concerned about the huge fluctuations. I found that the last passage on PT73 really threw me, and I completely bombed the games section for 72 and 73. For those of you who had a hard time with those games, how are you preparing/adjusting your prep? I'm thinking about re-doing the Rare games Cambridge set.


Have you seen 7Sage's video for the 4th game of 73? It's like a 20-min video and he gives some really good advice about recent games.

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Re: The Official December 2014 Study Group

Postby dasani13 » Fri Nov 28, 2014 12:02 am

KanGaHru wrote:
justdoit11 wrote:hey guys, when you drill your weaknesses this week, do you consider timing also? or just getting the questions right as your priority? timing has been a little off for me. I think im spending too much time on the first 15 questions (more on the 11-15th)


With enough practice under timed conditions, timing should just be second nature. The 15 in 15 minute rule does not always apply and so id suggest simply trying to recognize the difficult questions vs the easy ones. You probably just need more timed practice.

When im drilling LR, i usually just focus on understanding the question and answers perfectly and ignore timing.


Same here.

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Re: The Official December 2014 Study Group

Postby justdoit11 » Fri Nov 28, 2014 12:24 am

dasani13 wrote:
KanGaHru wrote:
justdoit11 wrote:hey guys, when you drill your weaknesses this week, do you consider timing also? or just getting the questions right as your priority? timing has been a little off for me. I think im spending too much time on the first 15 questions (more on the 11-15th)


With enough practice under timed conditions, timing should just be second nature. The 15 in 15 minute rule does not always apply and so id suggest simply trying to recognize the difficult questions vs the easy ones. You probably just need more timed practice.

When im drilling LR, i usually just focus on understanding the question and answers perfectly and ignore timing.


Same here.



thanks for responding! I usually waste most of my time on necessary assumption questions, trying to find the premise, conclusion, and gap. Necessary assumption questions seem to have a longer stimulus or more to think about. I even negate the answer choices and stop to think whether it will ruin the argument, and that seems to take time as well

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Re: The Official December 2014 Study Group

Postby dasani13 » Fri Nov 28, 2014 12:35 am

justdoit11 wrote:
dasani13 wrote:
KanGaHru wrote:
justdoit11 wrote:hey guys, when you drill your weaknesses this week, do you consider timing also? or just getting the questions right as your priority? timing has been a little off for me. I think im spending too much time on the first 15 questions (more on the 11-15th)


With enough practice under timed conditions, timing should just be second nature. The 15 in 15 minute rule does not always apply and so id suggest simply trying to recognize the difficult questions vs the easy ones. You probably just need more timed practice.

When im drilling LR, i usually just focus on understanding the question and answers perfectly and ignore timing.


Same here.



thanks for responding! I usually waste most of my time on necessary assumption questions, trying to find the premise, conclusion, and gap. Necessary assumption questions seem to have a longer stimulus or more to think about. I even negate the answer choices and stop to think whether it will ruin the argument, and that seems to take time as well


I think it's the Bible that says that we should only use the negation technique thing after eliminating 3 of the choices.

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Re: The Official December 2014 Study Group

Postby portmanteaux » Fri Nov 28, 2014 12:39 am

dasani13 wrote:
portmanteaux wrote:Happy Thanksgiving everyone! I had my best PT score yet today.
PT 66
RC:-0
LR: -0
LG: -0
LR: -5
176

My previous highest score was 173. Yesterday I took a PT and scored 164, so I'm a little concerned about the huge fluctuations. I found that the last passage on PT73 really threw me, and I completely bombed the games section for 72 and 73. For those of you who had a hard time with those games, how are you preparing/adjusting your prep? I'm thinking about re-doing the Rare games Cambridge set.


Have you seen 7Sage's video for the 4th game of 73? It's like a 20-min video and he gives some really good advice about recent games.


Thanks so much!! :) That was the easiest game for me so I actually didn't watch it. I'll take a look tomorrow.

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Postby Rigo » Fri Nov 28, 2014 1:11 am

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Re: The Official December 2014 Study Group

Postby unodostres » Fri Nov 28, 2014 1:38 am

Dirigo wrote:I haven't done anything the past two days. Damn holidays.


best thing you could have done

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Re: The Official December 2014 Study Group

Postby Shakawkaw » Fri Nov 28, 2014 1:51 am

I just spent the last 4 hours glued to my computer catching up on Scandal.

No regrets...yet. 8)

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Re: The Official December 2014 Study Group

Postby dasani13 » Fri Nov 28, 2014 11:19 am

Time to drill

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Re: The Official December 2014 Study Group

Postby koala-fy » Fri Nov 28, 2014 12:35 pm

I hope everyone had an awesome Thanksgiving!!

I admire those of you who are jumping right back into studying. One day off and I'm struggling to start. Then again, I guess yesterday wasn't really relaxing for me at all; we had a huge party and I was running around all day. I want to take another day off but I just don't think I can afford that. :(

Because there's so little time left and there are a few tests I still want to look at, in order to avoid burn out I was considering doing some of them just as timed sections. Like maybe a section or two at a time, timed, so I would do the whole test but in a less tiring way. I know my scores would not be entirely indicative, but I'm thinking it would still be good practice.

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Postby secadc11 » Fri Nov 28, 2014 12:44 pm

koala-fy wrote:I hope everyone had an awesome Thanksgiving!!

I admire those of you who are jumping right back into studying. One day off and I'm struggling to start. Then again, I guess yesterday wasn't really relaxing for me at all; we had a huge party and I was running around all day. I want to take another day off but I just don't think I can afford that. :(

Because there's so little time left and there are a few tests I still want to look at, in order to avoid burn out I was considering doing some of them just as timed sections. Like maybe a section or two at a time, timed, so I would do the whole test but in a less tiring way. I know my scores would not be entirely indicative, but I'm thinking it would still be good practice.


In the exact same boat. I'm planning on taking just 1 more full PT + experimental section, and then just going through the other test(s) I want to look at as timed sections. I think it is much more detrimental to burn out than it is to forgo a PT or two.

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Re: The Official December 2014 Study Group

Postby Yeezus » Fri Nov 28, 2014 12:58 pm

Does anyone have a way of solving PT 68, Game 4 without resorting to brute force? This game is a fucking nightmare.

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Re: The Official December 2014 Study Group

Postby unodostres » Fri Nov 28, 2014 1:31 pm

YeezusPiece wrote:Does anyone have a way of solving PT 68, Game 4 without resorting to brute force? This game is a fucking nightmare.


Just did it yesterday. Some answer choices can easily be eliminated from previous work as well as looking back on previous scenarios. Otherwise, ya, you're going to have to work through it on the remaining AC's.

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Re: The Official December 2014 Study Group

Postby thelincolnlawyer » Fri Nov 28, 2014 2:48 pm

Took PT 68 this morning as a test run for next Saturday.
RC (exp): -8
RC: -9
LR 1: -5
LR 2: -2
LG: -2 (got to game 4 with 12 minutes left and couldn't finish the last 2 in time)
Raw: 83
Scaled:165
Help me out TLSers, should I withdraw and take February instead? Already decided to take another year off (only 22) to get another year of work experience under my belt before applying. This is my highest test score so far, but more consistency in LR and RC would put me consistently near 168, which is my goal score.

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Re: The Official December 2014 Study Group

Postby KanGaHru » Fri Nov 28, 2014 3:29 pm

thelincolnlawyer wrote:Took PT 68 this morning as a test run for next Saturday.
RC (exp): -8
RC: -9
LR 1: -5
LR 2: -2
LG: -2 (got to game 4 with 12 minutes left and couldn't finish the last 2 in time)
Raw: 83
Scaled:165
Help me out TLSers, should I withdraw and take February instead? Already decided to take another year off (only 22) to get another year of work experience under my belt before applying. This is my highest test score so far, but more consistency in LR and RC would put me consistently near 168, which is my goal score.


If you are already planning to wait a year then definitely postpone (assuming 165 is not your target)....why wouldnt you take the time to study longer and nail the test?

Anyways, im out for the weekend on my mini vacation. See ya all Monday! Bon Voyage, im out!
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Postby Shakawkaw » Fri Nov 28, 2014 4:27 pm

KanGaHru: Best. Gif. Ever.

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Re: The Official December 2014 Study Group

Postby scandk » Fri Nov 28, 2014 4:36 pm

GreenTee wrote:
scandk wrote:Checking in from a break from the LSAT. Started prepping again a bit ago. Last few PT scores have been 169, 171, 172, and 173. I'm just trying to dust the rust off, and get back in to form.


You're a retaker, right? I remember seeing you around. Did you take September?


I took it in June, signed up for September, and pulled out last minute. The beginning of the semester was really hectic, and I got almost no studying done.

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Re: The Official December 2014 Study Group

Postby Rek2818 » Fri Nov 28, 2014 4:50 pm

What is everyone's preferred method for bubbling? i.e, Bubbling in the answer after completing each individual question, Bubbling in the answers after a specific RC Passage/ LG/ LR Page

I usually fill in each answer after completing an LG or RC passage, but have been trying varying methods with LR.

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Re: The Official December 2014 Study Group

Postby IsThisForReal » Fri Nov 28, 2014 6:52 pm

Rek2818 wrote:What is everyone's preferred method for bubbling? i.e, Bubbling in the answer after completing each individual question, Bubbling in the answers after a specific RC Passage/ LG/ LR Page

I usually fill in each answer after completing an LG or RC passage, but have been trying varying methods with LR.

I go until I have to flip a page.
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