The Official December 2014 Study Group

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Re: The Official December 2014 Study Group

Postby WorldsCollide » Sat Nov 01, 2014 8:11 pm

Shakawkaw wrote:
Jgoods wrote:
Shakawkaw wrote:I've been re-reading some of the Trainer today. Hoping to get PT 66 knocked out tomorrow, but might push it to Monday.

Someone shame me please.

do you feel like some of the strategies and such are clicking easier than your first go through?

nlee10 wrote:Shame


Yeah, I think it's easier than my first go. I read the Bibles first for a baseline (I think the Bibles are more "basic"). This is my third time on the Trainer, and I always see something differently each time. I'm only going over my problem sections. I did not find the Trainer particularly useful for games (because le duh). I'm more of a visual person, so I like the 7Sage videos better.

Worlds - how did you do with the drills? Graded yet?


I started off with the bibles, too. I bought the Trainer but I'm kind of overwhelmed. I don't see that it's divided by question type so I don't even know how to approach it =\

And yeah, I graded them as I did them (did 5-10 and then had my sister read out the answers for me :P ) and then looked back at the ones I got wrong. That way I kind of learned from my mistakes for the ones that followed.

MSS 18/20
Cannot Be True 13/13
Complete the passage 12/12
Main Conclusion 27/32
Flaw 19/24

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Re: The Official December 2014 Study Group

Postby Smallville » Sat Nov 01, 2014 8:19 pm

Jgoods wrote:
Im in the process of BR my LR2 from my PT, I know of 2 answers on LR1 which I got wrong and the rest I kept the answer... really hoping my thought process isn't messed up and I actually got the rest right :? about a quarter through LR2, hoping for a similar outcome as LR1


just finished LR2, same thing... 2 I know I got wrong (if my BR was right) but a few that I'm slightly iffy on and need more looking into... really don't wanna dive into RC right now :/

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Re: The Official December 2014 Study Group

Postby Shakawkaw » Sat Nov 01, 2014 8:23 pm

WorldsCollide wrote:I started off with the bibles, too. I bought the Trainer but I'm kind of overwhelmed. I don't see that it's divided by question type so I don't even know how to approach it =\

And yeah, I graded them as I did them (did 5-10 and then had my sister read out the answers for me :P ) and then looked back at the ones I got wrong. That way I kind of learned from my mistakes for the ones that followed.

MSS 18/20
Cannot Be True 13/13
Complete the passage 12/12
Main Conclusion 27/32
Flaw 19/24


Yeah, you get used to the way the Bibles classify question types. Mike uses his own classifications: Just off of the ToC: Chapters 5-9 are all Flaws; 18 - Sufficient Ass.; 19 - Nec. Ass., Strengthen and Weaken, etc.

I would recommend reading just the LR chapters at least, if you haven't. They're listed in the ToC. I think the reason why the Trainer might be overwhelming for someone already familiar with the exam is because it's structured in a way that jumps around. Which, in hindsight, makes me wish I had started with the Trainer because I jump around in my prep too.

Great job on the drills!! :)

ETA: Also, haven't looked at the ToC that closely and noticed a really hilarious quote that Mike put in - "May your curse in life be that your hard work is constantly mistaken for talent." POETIC AF, M.K.

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Re: The Official December 2014 Study Group

Postby Smallville » Sat Nov 01, 2014 8:30 pm

Shakawkaw wrote:ETA: Also, haven't looked at the ToC that closely and noticed a really hilarious quote that Mike put in - "May your curse in life be that your hard work is constantly mistaken for talent." POETIC AF, M.K.

haha I remember reading that... shits legit

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Re: The Official December 2014 Study Group

Postby nlee10 » Sat Nov 01, 2014 9:04 pm

Finally finished the first LR of PT 39. Was distracted AF (Facebook & TLS & Youtube) but finished!

21/24!

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Re: The Official December 2014 Study Group

Postby Smallville » Sat Nov 01, 2014 9:10 pm

nlee10 wrote:Finally finished the first LR of PT 39. Was distracted AF (Facebook & TLS & Youtube) but finished!

21/24!

not bad man, now make that 24/24
what kinda mistakes did you make? misread? trap answers?

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Re: The Official December 2014 Study Group

Postby WorldsCollide » Sat Nov 01, 2014 9:11 pm

Shakawkaw wrote:Mike uses his own classifications: Just off of the ToC: Chapters 5-9 are all Flaws; 18 - Sufficient Ass.; 19 - Nec. Ass., Strengthen and Weaken, etc.


Thanks for this! I'll definitely look at the LR sections before doing the corresponding drills.

Hoorah nlee! That's fantastic :D

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Re: The Official December 2014 Study Group

Postby nlee10 » Sat Nov 01, 2014 9:14 pm

Jgoods wrote:
nlee10 wrote:Finally finished the first LR of PT 39. Was distracted AF (Facebook & TLS & Youtube) but finished!

21/24!

not bad man, now make that 24/24
what kinda mistakes did you make? misread? trap answers?


Misreading the stimulus...lol. Gotta say some of the argument cores were fairly confusing. Had to reread it many times until I finally understand what it was saying and what to look for. lol. I would do the 2nd LR and RC today but I have PT 62 tomorrow morning so no more LSAT for me tonight. 8)

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Re: The Official December 2014 Study Group

Postby Smallville » Sat Nov 01, 2014 9:42 pm

so caved and graded b4 fully finishing, mainly bc I hate RC and i wanted my score... so haven't looked at exactly what was wrong and that but the 2 for each LR i changed were right however there were apparently ones I apparently thought were right and weren't :/ there were 3 I had to guess on RC which I got right in BR (along with a few other I changed in BR) Overall not happy bc of how it felt and how it ultimately turned out but is technically my highest timed PT (which isn't saying much since its nowhere near what I want) and not a fantastic BR score but still +5 better than actual.... so yeah

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Re: The Official December 2014 Study Group

Postby nlee10 » Sat Nov 01, 2014 10:05 pm

Jgoods wrote:so caved and graded b4 fully finishing, mainly bc I hate RC and i wanted my score... so haven't looked at exactly what was wrong and that but the 2 for each LR i changed were right however there were apparently ones I apparently thought were right and weren't :/ there were 3 I had to guess on RC which I got right in BR (along with a few other I changed in BR) Overall not happy bc of how it felt and how it ultimately turned out but is technically my highest timed PT (which isn't saying much since its nowhere near what I want) and not a fantastic BR score but still +5 better than actual.... so yeah


:wink:

Rc is such a pain in the ass.

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Re: The Official December 2014 Study Group

Postby Shakawkaw » Sat Nov 01, 2014 10:06 pm

How do you guys review RC - during BR and after?

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Re: The Official December 2014 Study Group

Postby Yeezus » Sat Nov 01, 2014 10:34 pm

Jgoods wrote:
Shakawkaw wrote:ETA: Also, haven't looked at the ToC that closely and noticed a really hilarious quote that Mike put in - "May your curse in life be that your hard work is constantly mistaken for talent." POETIC AF, M.K.

haha I remember reading that... shits legit


I think that's a blessing haha. I'd much rather be known as talented. But now that everyone's talking about the Trainer I think I might cave and give the LR chapters a read tomorrow. Might as well I guess.

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Re: The Official December 2014 Study Group

Postby Smallville » Sat Nov 01, 2014 10:39 pm

Shakawkaw wrote:How do you guys review RC - during BR and after?


well I kinda treated my BR as doing it untimed... but for RC i kinda was burnt out and didn't wanna do anything so skimmed a bit (hence my BR only giving me 4 extra right answers instead of prob 8 I coulda found easily) but I would say treat it like your doing the section untimed, go through it and find all the answers

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Re: The Official December 2014 Study Group

Postby mist4bison » Sat Nov 01, 2014 10:53 pm

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Re: The Official December 2014 Study Group

Postby Shakawkaw » Sat Nov 01, 2014 11:19 pm

J.Y. tar got reported. Noooooooo :(

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Re: The Official December 2014 Study Group

Postby Smallville » Sat Nov 01, 2014 11:22 pm

Shakawkaw wrote:J.Y. tar got reported. Noooooooo :(

lol was bound to happen sooner or later

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Re: The Official December 2014 Study Group

Postby GreenTee » Sun Nov 02, 2014 12:36 am

Shakawkaw wrote:J.Y. tar got reported. Noooooooo :(


That's weird. I mean, JY is basically a public figure. Should be fair game.

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Re: The Official December 2014 Study Group

Postby PeanutsNJam » Sun Nov 02, 2014 12:56 am

Hey guys remember when this happened on page 5.

PeanutsNJam wrote:Hey, December thread!

Image

SEPTEMBER THREAD POWER.

*runs away*

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Re: The Official December 2014 Study Group

Postby nlee10 » Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:29 am

PeanutsNJam wrote:Hey guys remember when this happened on page 5.

PeanutsNJam wrote:Hey, December thread!

Image

SEPTEMBER THREAD POWER.

*runs away*


Yes

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Re: The Official December 2014 Study Group

Postby fips tedora » Sun Nov 02, 2014 3:10 am

Well, I decided to take Preptest 55, which I just completed. I cannot say how things went until tomorrow, although, I got no lube'd by the games section at the end... :evil:

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Re: The Official December 2014 Study Group

Postby Colonel_funkadunk » Sun Nov 02, 2014 3:15 am

peppermint wrote: Btw, jrdavila, where are you?!


im sure hes trying to avoid anymore LSAT induced relationship issues

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Re: The Official December 2014 Study Group

Postby MEAhrnsbrak » Sun Nov 02, 2014 8:17 am

Taking PT 62 today with my BP class. I've been working on RC and am doing a much better job. Untimed (about 10-11 minutes per passage) I can typically go -0 per passage, but timed I am struggling with timing verse properly tagging and identifying the structure. Timed I am still anywhere from -0 to -3 per passage :-/ I guess just more practice to get my timing down pat. But I'm seeing progress! I can get timing down in the next month!

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Re: The Official December 2014 Study Group

Postby Smallville » Sun Nov 02, 2014 8:24 am

MEAhrnsbrak wrote:Taking PT 62 today with my BP class. I've been working on RC and am doing a much better job. Untimed (about 10-11 minutes per passage) I can typically go -0 per passage, but timed I am struggling with timing verse properly tagging and identifying the structure. Timed I am still anywhere from -0 to -3 per passage :-/ I guess just more practice to get my timing down pat. But I'm seeing progress! I can get timing down in the next month!

make it into a battle! MEAhrnsbrak vs Nlee in the battle of PT62 GL! RC is a rough one but when I took it yesterday I didn't find the RC too bad (granted I still got plenty wrong) but progress is good! 180 by December!

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Re: The Official December 2014 Study Group

Postby Smallville » Sun Nov 02, 2014 10:11 am

got into a debate with my Dad this morning about working out and what the best way to do it is and all I could think about while going back and forth were all the flawed assumptions and arguments he made :P




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