The Official December 2014 Study Group Forum

[Shakawkaw]

diagram that shit.

Accurate summary of SA - nice, Cav.

For the questions I miss, I like to come back to them a week or two after the first attempt. Have you gone over them, or have you just marked them as incorrect on the first try?

[idissent]

missed so much relationship drama and drama is my lifeblood. drove to my parents' house last night to vote this morning, but I'll be back home tonight, probably going to (finally) review the September exam. looking forward to hating myself all evening.

[mist4bison]

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[GreenTee]

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[Hand]

Still relevant. Still hilarious. 180.

As a recent convert, I can only agree.

[Rigo]

[Shakawkaw]

HAND WATCHED MEAN GIRLS!

But how many times?

[Rigo]

[GreenTee]

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[nlee10]

Hi everyone. Just finished taking PT 70.

ETA: My latest PT previously taken was 61 so I wanted to take a "newer" PT and see if there is a noticeable difference. Used the 7sage proctor app for the first time as well.

LR1: 21/25
RC: 17/27
LG: 20/23
LR2: 16/26
Raw: 74
Score: 160

This is my highest score ever, but also the hardest one yet. This LG wasn't so bad on this test, but I had a really hard time with LR in that I wasn't really so sure of my answer choices. It felt like I went 12/25, 12/26 on the LR but ended up with a 21/25, 16/26, respectively.

[Hand]

"Better than GeorgeTTTown."

Definitely an ambiguous answer

It was intended as a compliment!

[j907]

Anyone from Chicago on here?

[Rigo]

[idissent]

Hi everyone. Just finished taking PT 70.

ETA: My latest PT previously taken was 61 so I wanted to take a "newer" PT and see if there is a noticeable difference. Used the 7sage proctor app for the first time as well.

LR1: 21/25
RC: 17/27
LG: 20/23
LR2: 16/26
Raw: 74
Score: 160

This is my highest score ever, but also the hardest one yet. This LG wasn't so bad on this test, but I had a really hard time with LR in that I wasn't really so sure of my answer choices. It felt like I went 12/25, 12/26 on the LR but ended up with a 21/25, 16/26, respectively.

Great job! The good thing is that when you think a test is hard, pretty much everyone else does too, so if you don't stress out about, you still end up with your awesome result.

[nlee10]

Score: 160
This is my highest score ever, but also the hardest one yet.

Congrats!!

Thanks! I am going to start the PT 1-38's Most difficult Packet this weekend in response to my lack of confidence in LR. haha.

[peppermint]

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[jw316]

Hi everyone. Just finished taking PT 70.

This is my highest score ever, but also the hardest one yet.

Congrats!

[jw316]

You guys are killing shit and it's inspiring. Mr.back to back PTs? Major respect for you. I'm trying to get back on the saddle & throw everything into LSAT.

[Colonel_funkadunk]

[monadologist]

Hi everyone. Just finished taking PT 70.

ETA: My latest PT previously taken was 61 so I wanted to take a "newer" PT and see if there is a noticeable difference. Used the 7sage proctor app for the first time as well.

LR1: 21/25
RC: 17/27
LG: 20/23
LR2: 16/26
Raw: 74
Score: 160

This is my highest score ever, but also the hardest one yet. This LG wasn't so bad on this test, but I had a really hard time with LR in that I wasn't really so sure of my answer choices. It felt like I went 12/25, 12/26 on the LR but ended up with a 21/25, 16/26, respectively.

Great work! You are on an upward trajectory. As for myself, I am sliding down into oblivion. Last PT was 160 (PT63) after doing SuperPrep A untimed (167). Sucks to be down 10 points from the 3 170 range in a row last week, not sure if its burnout or if I fluked out 3 times. I am reassessing the damage at the moment. Here's to a better PT next week.

[Shakawkaw]

Insightful.

[gatesome]

my medium-term goal is to score an untimed 180

if i can't do it when time is not a factor there is no way i can do it on test day

current untimed record is 175

[Shakawkaw]

my medium-term goal is to score an untimed 180

if i can't do it when time is not a factor there is no way i can do it on test day

current untimed record is 175

How long do you take per section, untimed? Or do you not keep track at all?

[monadologist]

my medium-term goal is to score an untimed 180

if i can't do it when time is not a factor there is no way i can do it on test day

current untimed record is 175

I'm not sure if that's the best approach tbh. Time pressure is an essential feature of the test, you can't separate the two. There's a saying that I heard from TLSers that goes along the lines of "everyone can get a 180 on the lsat... untimed". Scoring a 180 untimed doesn't really mean much.

I mean look, if I did a PT untimed with an aim to get a 180, I'd brute force every logic game (i.e. draw hypos, confirm each answer to certainty, and take my time doing it), then I'd take 5 minutes on each LR question, and then for RC I'd read the passage 40 times and confirm every answer with the passage... very... slowly.... The score wouldn't reflect any of my abilities because time is not factored.

eta - Unless I misunderstand you and you are testing with ELAPSED time, which is a totally different ball game, but that's not untimed

[gatesome]

How long do you take per section, untimed? Or do you not keep track at all?

I can complete all the sections in 35 minutes each when necessary.

By untimed I mean I will spend as long as necessary until I am 100% sure the answer is right and the other answers are wrong.

When taking a PT there are many times when I'm like "I'm pretty confident this is the right answer, so I should move on". In an untimed PT I will disregard time as a factor, and focus on answering each question correctly instead of simply answering them all.

I'm not sure if that's the best approach tbh. Time pressure is an essential feature of the test, you can't separate the two. There's a saying that I heard from TLSers that goes along the lines of "everyone can get a 180 on the lsat... untimed". Scoring a 180 untimed doesn't really mean much.

I mean look, if I did a PT untimed with an aim to get a 180, I'd brute force every logic game (i.e. draw hypos, confirm each answer to certainty, and take my time doing it), then I'd take 5 minutes on each LR question, and then for RC I'd read the passage 40 times and confirm every answer with the passage... very... slowly.... The score wouldn't reflect any of my abilities because time is not factored.

eta - Unless I misunderstand you and you are testing with ELAPSED time, which is a totally different ball game, but that's not untimed

I 100% agree that time is a huge factor. When I take PTs I always time them.

I want to score very high on text day (like everyone I guess... but I want 173+). To get this kind of score you need to know how to find the right answers on every question, and the best way to learn (imo) is by focusing closely on each question type and learning the tricks LSAC uses to trap you into hasty incorrect answers.

I already am pretty good with timing. I can finish the test in time and my highest timed PT is 172. I consider untimed PTs to be more of large-scale drilling than taking an actual practice test.