June 2014 Retakers

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Re: June 2014 Retakers

Postby foamborn » Tue Mar 18, 2014 11:25 am

Did anybody else struggle with the second section of LR on PT 44? I hope this was just an off day for me, but I'm still trying to understand the mistakes I made. I had a really weird experience with 44. I finished the LG section with 11 minutes remaining and got all of them right but missed 5 questions on the aforementioned LR section.

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Re: June 2014 Retakers

Postby Hurricane211 » Tue Mar 18, 2014 12:50 pm

Hello! I am relatively new to TLS, but a long-time lurker. I believe I am going to hop on the June retake train. I haven't looked at anything LSAT related since June last year when I took the exam. I scored a 162... I am hoping to increase it to a 166+. Pleasure prepping with you all! :)

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Re: June 2014 Retakers

Postby FlyingNorth » Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:04 pm

foamborn wrote:Did anybody else struggle with the second section of LR on PT 44? I hope this was just an off day for me, but I'm still trying to understand the mistakes I made. I had a really weird experience with 44. I finished the LG section with 11 minutes remaining and got all of them right but missed 5 questions on the aforementioned LR section.


Not sure, I haven't taken that PT recently.

Hurricane211 wrote:Hello! I am relatively new to TLS, but a long-time lurker. I believe I am going to hop on the June retake train. I haven't looked at anything LSAT related since June last year when I took the exam. I scored a 162... I am hoping to increase it to a 166+. Pleasure prepping with you all! :)


Welcome. Check out some of the TLS study guides here viewtopic.php?f=6&t=200917

There's one specifically tailored to retakers by NoodleyOne, which a few of us are using.

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Re: June 2014 Retakers

Postby rebexness » Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:22 pm

foamborn wrote:Did anybody else struggle with the second section of LR on PT 44? I hope this was just an off day for me, but I'm still trying to understand the mistakes I made. I had a really weird experience with 44. I finished the LG section with 11 minutes remaining and got all of them right but missed 5 questions on the aforementioned LR section.


I haven't taken 44 yet, but based on my experiences with other 40s tests that sounds about right. Super hard LR 2 and easy LG.

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Re: June 2014 Retakers

Postby Hurricane211 » Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:55 pm

Thank you for the kind welcome! I'm going to go buy some PTs and take one to establish a new baseline. Hopefully, these last many months haven't eroded my score too much. I hope you all don't mind me posting stupid information about my retake process on here. I'm hoping it will keep me disciplined--something I rather lacked my first time preparing.

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Re: June 2014 Retakers

Postby rebexness » Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:58 pm

Just got the OP bros, if anyone has poll suggestions, let me know!

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Re: June 2014 Retakers

Postby jk148706 » Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:59 pm

rebexness wrote:Just got the OP bros, if anyone has poll suggestions, let me know!


:lol: :D 8)

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Re: June 2014 Retakers

Postby dd235 » Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:19 pm

foamborn wrote:Did anybody else struggle with the second section of LR on PT 44? I hope this was just an off day for me, but I'm still trying to understand the mistakes I made. I had a really weird experience with 44. I finished the LG section with 11 minutes remaining and got all of them right but missed 5 questions on the aforementioned LR section.


Last time I took the LSAT I would always do this after PTs that didn’t go well. “Oh shit I did poorly on PT62... let me google other people’s opinions of it so that I can feel better when they say it was super hard,” or “Damn I struggled on RC for PT whatever... I hope it was considered a hard RC section.”

This time I am going to try to eliminate this attitude. We need to be ready for literally whatever they throw at us. This means rocking the “hard” sections too.

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Re: June 2014 Retakers

Postby FlyingNorth » Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:21 pm

rebexness wrote:Just got the OP bros, if anyone has poll suggestions, let me know!


See your tar for my reaction to this!

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Re: June 2014 Retakers

Postby foamborn » Tue Mar 18, 2014 4:23 pm

dd235 wrote:
foamborn wrote:Did anybody else struggle with the second section of LR on PT 44? I hope this was just an off day for me, but I'm still trying to understand the mistakes I made. I had a really weird experience with 44. I finished the LG section with 11 minutes remaining and got all of them right but missed 5 questions on the aforementioned LR section.


Last time I took the LSAT I would always do this after PTs that didn’t go well. “Oh shit I did poorly on PT62... let me google other people’s opinions of it so that I can feel better when they say it was super hard,” or “Damn I struggled on RC for PT whatever... I hope it was considered a hard RC section.”

This time I am going to try to eliminate this attitude. We need to be ready for literally whatever they throw at us. This means rocking the “hard” sections too.


I agree with this to an extent, but you ignore that people could respond that it wasn't hard, in which case I'd be even more motivated to fix my problems. If people agreed with me then I might try to come up with an explanation for it. So, yeah, I agree that some of the motivation behind making that comment was to see if people sympathized, but it wasn't just that. This test was, for me, just very strange. I had taken 3 tests previously averaging a 177 and this one test I got a 170. On blind review I thought I had nailed the test. That hasn't happened to me before. I can almost always tell if I've missed something. So I really wanted to see if people agreed and if they had an explanation for it. Did a lot of us trip over weird wording? Was there a string of difficult questions that led to mistakes on easier questions following that string?

So, I agree that the attitude of looking for sympathy is silly (and that that was part of why I posted), but I don't think that the post itself is silly. And, definitely, I agree that shooting for 178+ means being ready for anything. Next time I'll post specific questions about things I find difficult rather than asking if people agree about difficulty.

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Re: June 2014 Retakers

Postby rebexness » Tue Mar 18, 2014 4:36 pm

Foam-

I think DD was really saying that we should never be satisfied with using "it was a difficult section" as an excuse for a poor performance or lower than usual score.

Feel free to complain about it as much as you want though. I like to know when Im not the only one bested by a tricky LR section. :mrgreen:

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Re: June 2014 Retakers

Postby dd235 » Tue Mar 18, 2014 4:58 pm

foamborn wrote:
dd235 wrote:
foamborn wrote:Did anybody else struggle with the second section of LR on PT 44? I hope this was just an off day for me, but I'm still trying to understand the mistakes I made. I had a really weird experience with 44. I finished the LG section with 11 minutes remaining and got all of them right but missed 5 questions on the aforementioned LR section.


Last time I took the LSAT I would always do this after PTs that didn’t go well. “Oh shit I did poorly on PT62... let me google other people’s opinions of it so that I can feel better when they say it was super hard,” or “Damn I struggled on RC for PT whatever... I hope it was considered a hard RC section.”

This time I am going to try to eliminate this attitude. We need to be ready for literally whatever they throw at us. This means rocking the “hard” sections too.


I agree with this to an extent, but you ignore that people could respond that it wasn't hard, in which case I'd be even more motivated to fix my problems. If people agreed with me then I might try to come up with an explanation for it. So, yeah, I agree that some of the motivation behind making that comment was to see if people sympathized, but it wasn't just that. This test was, for me, just very strange. I had taken 3 tests previously averaging a 177 and this one test I got a 170. On blind review I thought I had nailed the test. That hasn't happened to me before. I can almost always tell if I've missed something. So I really wanted to see if people agreed and if they had an explanation for it. Did a lot of us trip over weird wording? Was there a string of difficult questions that led to mistakes on easier questions following that string?

So, I agree that the attitude of looking for sympathy is silly (and that that was part of why I posted), but I don't think that the post itself is silly. And, definitely, I agree that shooting for 178+ means being ready for anything. Next time I'll post specific questions about things I find difficult rather than asking if people agree about difficulty.


Ya sorry, after re-reading what I posted I realize that it comes off with a negative connotation that I did not mean for it to have.
Everything you said makes sense, and I will certainly be posting my fair share of complaints when I do poorly on sections.

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Re: June 2014 Retakers

Postby FlyingNorth » Tue Mar 18, 2014 5:05 pm

rebexness wrote:Foam-

I think DD was really saying that we should never be satisfied with using "it was a difficult section" as an excuse for a poor performance or lower than usual score.

Feel free to complain about it as much as you want though. I like to know when Im not the only one bested by a tricky LR section. :mrgreen:


Check out a few posts back when reb agreed that the LR section I bombed was difficult.

Shit, it made me feel better, but you know I reviewed that hell out of that thing nonetheless.

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Re: June 2014 Retakers

Postby rebexness » Tue Mar 18, 2014 5:08 pm

Also, if you guys aren't doing this already:

In addition to having a LSATQA or 7sage test grading account, I have all of my stuff on an xls.

I include the date and location of the PT i took, as well as scores for each individual section (-2 etc), the Raw score, the score itself, blind review info, and a notes section which I fill out after the test before grading. Mine has everything from comments on noise, distractions, level of ADHD occuring, impressions of difficulty, etc.

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Re: June 2014 Retakers

Postby foamborn » Tue Mar 18, 2014 5:21 pm

dd235 wrote:Ya sorry, after re-reading what I posted I realize that it comes off with a negative connotation that I did not mean for it to have. Everything you said makes sense, and I will certainly be posting my fair share of complaints when I do poorly on sections.


Ach, naw, I'm sorry that I sounded so defensive. I think you're absolutely right about that attitude being bad for improvement. I just meant to say, and could have said in much less words, that that kind of posting can have positive results beyond sympathy.

FlyingNorth wrote:Check out a few posts back when reb agreed that the LR section I bombed was difficult.

Shit, it made me feel better, but you know I reviewed that hell out of that thing nonetheless.


Additionally, in keeping with my previous post where I said that someone might disagree that a section was hard I should say that I didn't think the PT41 LR section was hard. If you have any questions about that section definitely ask.

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Re: June 2014 Retakers

Postby Learn_Live_Hope » Tue Mar 18, 2014 5:26 pm

What did i miss? :shock:

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Re: June 2014 Retakers

Postby FlyingNorth » Tue Mar 18, 2014 5:37 pm

Learn_Live_Hope wrote:What did i miss? :shock:


Nuffin. This thread is actually starting to heat up doe

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Re: June 2014 Retakers

Postby withoutapaddle » Tue Mar 18, 2014 7:54 pm

Where's everyone trying to go to school?

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Re: June 2014 Retakers

Postby rebexness » Tue Mar 18, 2014 7:58 pm

withoutapaddle wrote:Where's everyone trying to go to school?


Blanketing T-20 plus a few location specific places that are T1.

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Re: June 2014 Retakers

Postby Hurricane211 » Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:23 pm

I applied everywhere this cycle. I'm in at a T20 with $$ and on multiple T14 wait lists. I am hoping to turn my $$ into $$$$$$ and those wait lists into acceptances with a kick-butt June LSAT score.

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Re: June 2014 Retakers

Postby underwood15 » Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:45 pm

Hurricane211 wrote:I applied everywhere this cycle. I'm in at a T20 with $$ and on multiple T14 wait lists. I am hoping to turn my $$ into $$$$$$ and those wait lists into acceptances with a kick-butt June LSAT score.


are you going to make deposits at the T20 schools in the meantime? are you going to tell those schools that you plan on taking the june LSAT? I am in the same boat, and am wondering how to go about it/when to register for the june LSAT.

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Re: June 2014 Retakers

Postby withoutapaddle » Tue Mar 18, 2014 10:32 pm

Due to my frat star GPA(not proud of this) my game plan is this:

If I score :

180 = ED UPENN.
175-179= ED Virginia or cornell
170-174= ED Georgetown or Northwestern
165-169= go to wake forest
Below 165= get another cubicle job and live a life of disappointment

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Re: June 2014 Retakers

Postby jk148706 » Tue Mar 18, 2014 11:38 pm

underwood15 wrote:
Hurricane211 wrote:I applied everywhere this cycle. I'm in at a T20 with $$ and on multiple T14 wait lists. I am hoping to turn my $$ into $$$$$$ and those wait lists into acceptances with a kick-butt June LSAT score.


are you going to make deposits at the T20 schools in the meantime? are you going to tell those schools that you plan on taking the june LSAT? I am in the same boat, and am wondering how to go about it/when to register for the june LSAT.


Same here. It's tough to know what to do




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