June 2014 Retakers

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Re: June 2014 Retakers

Postby yadiermolina » Wed Feb 05, 2014 7:53 am

Checking in! Only taken it once, last June, and didn't retake despite scoring 4-5 points below my average (wish I would've found the TLS community earlier! I got terrible advice...) Will be primarily using noodleyone's guide for retakers (once I start that is). Have already applied and gotten into many of my targets, but I'm going to try and leverage a new score for more money/get in off wait lists (unwilling to pay sticker) or take a year off (am a KJD) and reapply next cycle.

Good luck to all!

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Re: June 2014 Retakers

Postby FlyingNorth » Wed Feb 05, 2014 1:16 pm

eddiemen2a wrote:Im in guys. Although I'm not exactly a re-taker. I withdrew from February because my RC is horrible-- I never focused on it during my prep so i plan to hit it hard during the next few months. I'm going back to the basics. Starting off with Manhattans LR, and Powerscore for LG and RC (First time using an RC book). I used my PTs up till 68 (Yikes) but I hoping familiarity doesn't play a huge role. I have also never used Cambridge to drill, and I would like to know the proper way of doing this. Should i go through the bibles/Manhattan LR first?


Use the Cambridge drilling packets in conjunction with whatever study books you're using. So, if you're covering Linear Games in your LG Bible, drill those after the chapter.

Continue in the same fashion with your MLSAT and other Bible materials. Rinse and repeat for anything you're shaky on or if you notice a recurring type of problem in your PT's.

Welcome to the group, yo.

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Re: June 2014 Retakers

Postby FlyingNorth » Wed Feb 05, 2014 1:17 pm

yadiermolina wrote:Checking in! Only taken it once, last June, and didn't retake despite scoring 4-5 points below my average (wish I would've found the TLS community earlier! I got terrible advice...) Will be primarily using noodleyone's guide for retakers (once I start that is). Have already applied and gotten into many of my targets, but I'm going to try and leverage a new score for more money/get in off wait lists (unwilling to pay sticker) or take a year off (am a KJD) and reapply next cycle.

Good luck to all!


A retaker is a retaker, welcome to the group.

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Re: June 2014 Retakers

Postby FlyingNorth » Wed Feb 05, 2014 1:17 pm

dasani13 wrote:Anyone interested in reviewing some LR questions and games from the Trainer's drills in the chat room?


How far along are you, Dasani?

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Re: June 2014 Retakers

Postby dasani13 » Wed Feb 05, 2014 3:05 pm

FlyingNorth wrote:
dasani13 wrote:Anyone interested in reviewing some LR questions and games from the Trainer's drills in the chat room?


How far along are you, Dasani?


I'm on Lesson 23 but some of the questions I need help reviewing are from earlier drills (around Lesson 15-19).

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Re: June 2014 Retakers

Postby FlyingNorth » Wed Feb 05, 2014 3:27 pm

dasani13 wrote:
FlyingNorth wrote:
dasani13 wrote:Anyone interested in reviewing some LR questions and games from the Trainer's drills in the chat room?


How far along are you, Dasani?


I'm on Lesson 23 but some of the questions I need help reviewing are from earlier drills (around Lesson 15-19).


I've already gone through the trainer and done the drills, so I'm more than happy to go over some of the drills. What time were you thinking + time zone?

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Re: June 2014 Retakers

Postby rebexness » Wed Feb 05, 2014 3:55 pm

FlyingNorth wrote:
dasani13 wrote:I'm on Lesson 23 but some of the questions I need help reviewing are from earlier drills (around Lesson 15-19).


I've already gone through the trainer and done the drills, so I'm more than happy to go over some of the drills. What time were you thinking + time zone?


Depending on the time, I could be in. Are you talking about the drills in the book or the ones from the packets?

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Re: June 2014 Retakers

Postby ioannisk » Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:34 pm

Hi guys, I got a 159 in december 2013 without ever taking a real, full on practice test. Just practiced shitty sections every now and then.

I'm doing better, -3~ in LG and LR within time. My RC is terrible , -7 to -10 without even making time.


I'm down for any study groups or anything.
I'm starting the LSAT Trainer today. I skimmed the 4 first lessons and it looks like stuff i get, so i'm not gonna drill them hard.

Got any motivatinal websites or something? lol... I need the 170+

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Re: June 2014 Retakers

Postby dasani13 » Wed Feb 05, 2014 5:00 pm

FlyingNorth wrote:
dasani13 wrote:
FlyingNorth wrote:
dasani13 wrote:Anyone interested in reviewing some LR questions and games from the Trainer's drills in the chat room?


How far along are you, Dasani?


I'm on Lesson 23 but some of the questions I need help reviewing are from earlier drills (around Lesson 15-19).


I've already gone through the trainer and done the drills, so I'm more than happy to go over some of the drills. What time were you thinking + time zone?


rebexness wrote:
FlyingNorth wrote:
dasani13 wrote:I'm on Lesson 23 but some of the questions I need help reviewing are from earlier drills (around Lesson 15-19).


I've already gone through the trainer and done the drills, so I'm more than happy to go over some of the drills. What time were you thinking + time zone?


Depending on the time, I could be in. Are you talking about the drills in the book or the ones from the packets?



It's the drills from the packets that he assigns in addition to the stuff in the book. I reviewed all of my work yesterday and separated the ones I got wrong and are still giving me a hard time. You guys down for tomorrow night 8pm EST?

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Re: June 2014 Retakers

Postby FlyingNorth » Wed Feb 05, 2014 5:28 pm

How far along are you, Dasani?[/quote]

rebexness wrote:
FlyingNorth wrote:
dasani13 wrote:I'm on Lesson 23 but some of the questions I need help reviewing are from earlier drills (around Lesson 15-19).


I've already gone through the trainer and done the drills, so I'm more than happy to go over some of the drills. What time were you thinking + time zone?


Depending on the time, I could be in. Are you talking about the drills in the book or the ones from the packets?



It's the drills from the packets that he assigns in addition to the stuff in the book. I reviewed all of my work yesterday and separated the ones I got wrong and are still giving me a hard time. You guys down for tomorrow night 8pm EST?[/quote]



Wish I could, west coast bro over here and I have to take care of a few things after work. If you want to post some of the tougher ones, I can see if I can give an explanation.

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Re: June 2014 Retakers

Postby FlyingNorth » Wed Feb 05, 2014 5:30 pm

ioannisk wrote:Hi guys, I got a 159 in december 2013 without ever taking a real, full on practice test. Just practiced shitty sections every now and then.

I'm doing better, -3~ in LG and LR within time. My RC is terrible , -7 to -10 without even making time.


I'm down for any study groups or anything.
I'm starting the LSAT Trainer today. I skimmed the 4 first lessons and it looks like stuff i get, so i'm not gonna drill them hard.

Got any motivatinal websites or something? lol... I need the 170+


Definitely go through the Trainer anyway. I'm reviewing it after having gone through it once already, it's a great resource for solidifying your understanding of the test.

As for websites...you're on it :roll:

Welcome to the club.

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Re: June 2014 Retakers

Postby ioannisk » Wed Feb 05, 2014 5:46 pm

FlyingNorth wrote:
ioannisk wrote:Hi guys, I got a 159 in december 2013 without ever taking a real, full on practice test. Just practiced shitty sections every now and then.

I'm doing better, -3~ in LG and LR within time. My RC is terrible , -7 to -10 without even making time.


I'm down for any study groups or anything.
I'm starting the LSAT Trainer today. I skimmed the 4 first lessons and it looks like stuff i get, so i'm not gonna drill them hard.

Got any motivatinal websites or something? lol... I need the 170+


Definitely go through the Trainer anyway. I'm reviewing it after having gone through it once already, it's a great resource for solidifying your understanding of the test.

As for websites...you're on it :roll:

Welcome to the club.


Do you think the trainer is sufficient or should I also go through the Manhattan series/power score series again?

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Re: June 2014 Retakers

Postby FlyingNorth » Wed Feb 05, 2014 6:54 pm

ioannisk wrote:
FlyingNorth wrote:
ioannisk wrote:Hi guys, I got a 159 in december 2013 without ever taking a real, full on practice test. Just practiced shitty sections every now and then.

I'm doing better, -3~ in LG and LR within time. My RC is terrible , -7 to -10 without even making time.


I'm down for any study groups or anything.
I'm starting the LSAT Trainer today. I skimmed the 4 first lessons and it looks like stuff i get, so i'm not gonna drill them hard.

Got any motivatinal websites or something? lol... I need the 170+


Definitely go through the Trainer anyway. I'm reviewing it after having gone through it once already, it's a great resource for solidifying your understanding of the test.

As for websites...you're on it :roll:

Welcome to the club.


Do you think the trainer is sufficient or should I also go through the Manhattan series/power score series again?


It's up to you. I'm using the trainer in conjunction with the PS LG Bible because I need to focus on Logic Games a little more. I think you'll get the most out of the drilling aspect of your studying rather than the books you supplement it with.

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Re: June 2014 Retakers

Postby ioannisk » Wed Feb 05, 2014 7:59 pm

FlyingNorth wrote:
ioannisk wrote:
FlyingNorth wrote:
ioannisk wrote:Hi guys, I got a 159 in december 2013 without ever taking a real, full on practice test. Just practiced shitty sections every now and then.

I'm doing better, -3~ in LG and LR within time. My RC is terrible , -7 to -10 without even making time.


I'm down for any study groups or anything.
I'm starting the LSAT Trainer today. I skimmed the 4 first lessons and it looks like stuff i get, so i'm not gonna drill them hard.

Got any motivatinal websites or something? lol... I need the 170+


Definitely go through the Trainer anyway. I'm reviewing it after having gone through it once already, it's a great resource for solidifying your understanding of the test.

As for websites...you're on it :roll:

Welcome to the club.


Do you think the trainer is sufficient or should I also go through the Manhattan series/power score series again?


It's up to you. I'm using the trainer in conjunction with the PS LG Bible because I need to focus on Logic Games a little more. I think you'll get the most out of the drilling aspect of your studying rather than the books you supplement it with.


I've gone through ps lg bible already. I feel all those categories are sort of pointless, i don't even know what half the categories are but when i see a game i know what it's asking for/what sort of diagrams.

I suppose review the LR bible/mlsat lr would be worthwhile.

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Re: June 2014 Retakers

Postby FlyingNorth » Wed Feb 05, 2014 8:18 pm

ioannisk wrote:Hi guys, I got a 159 in december 2013 without ever taking a real, full on practice test. Just practiced shitty sections every now and then.



I suppose review the LR bible/mlsat lr would be worthwhile.
[/quote][/quote][/quote]

Yeah, I'm disregarding the categorization of each LG. I'm more so reviewing the bible for improving my diagramming habits. If you think you're on point, then I would suggest drilling games and reviewing using 7sage.

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Re: June 2014 Retakers

Postby rebexness » Wed Feb 05, 2014 8:40 pm

dasani13 wrote:It's the drills from the packets that he assigns in addition to the stuff in the book. I reviewed all of my work yesterday and separated the ones I got wrong and are still giving me a hard time. You guys down for tomorrow night 8pm EST?


West Coaster also.

This goes for anyone though-
Feel free to post them in the thread or even PM me and can do my best to explain.

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Re: June 2014 Retakers

Postby jmjm » Thu Feb 06, 2014 2:47 am

eddiemen2a wrote:Im in guys. Although I'm not exactly a re-taker. I withdrew from February because my RC is horrible-- I never focused on it during my prep so i plan to hit it hard during the next few months. I'm going back to the basics. Starting off with Manhattans LR, and Powerscore for LG and RC (First time using an RC book). I used my PTs up till 68 (Yikes) but I hoping familiarity doesn't play a huge role. I have also never used Cambridge to drill, and I would like to know the proper way of doing this. Should i go through the bibles/Manhattan LR first?


Registered for Feb but most likely withdrawing for the June test due to RC.
The downside is that an excellent center (in fact no center) near my town is not available for June. The effect of 1+ hr drive will also be tested in June along with the usual lsat stuff.

Trying cambridge for RC this time around.

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Re: June 2014 Retakers

Postby anyriotgirl » Thu Feb 06, 2014 3:28 pm

Hi Retakers,

I am considering a June retake, and I was hoping the hivemind could help advise on if it would be worth it. I've taken the LSAT twice so far-- 162 in Dec 2012 and 169 on Oct 13. I studied on my own the first time, and took a class the second time. During the class, I never scored higher than 169 on any of the timed tests that I did, but had been seeing improvement towards the end. I feel like if I had had two more weeks to study I could have gone up a few more points, but that could also be me overestimating myself. Basically, in your opinion have I maxed out my LSAT? At this point the retake would be for getting off of waitlists (UVA so far), and negotiating scholarship. I would appreciate any thoughts.

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Re: June 2014 Retakers

Postby FlyingNorth » Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:16 pm

anyriotgirl wrote:Hi Retakers,

I am considering a June retake, and I was hoping the hivemind could help advise on if it would be worth it. I've taken the LSAT twice so far-- 162 in Dec 2012 and 169 on Oct 13. I studied on my own the first time, and took a class the second time. During the class, I never scored higher than 169 on any of the timed tests that I did, but had been seeing improvement towards the end. I feel like if I had had two more weeks to study I could have gone up a few more points, but that could also be me overestimating myself. Basically, in your opinion have I maxed out my LSAT? At this point the retake would be for getting off of waitlists (UVA so far), and negotiating scholarship. I would appreciate any thoughts.


No. Your score history shows an upward trend even if you never broke the 170 threshold during PT's. This means that there are specific types of problems that you are consistently getting wrong.

Take a "cold" diagnostic, blind-review it, identify any consistent errors, drill those, PT again. Repeat this process through June and you should be able to elevate your score.

Welcome to the club.

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Re: June 2014 Retakers

Postby dasani13 » Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:14 pm

Hmm I just saw that the June test is at 12:30pm. I thought the February test was at that time. I'll take it as a good thing, right? I've never taken a PT at that time.

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Re: June 2014 Retakers

Postby rebexness » Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:06 pm

Just did my first PT this session. Basically under test conditions except I forgot print a bubble sheet.

Did PT 39 at the test center, as a 4 section. Sloppy on LG but otherwise not disappointed for the first one. Second number denotes score after BR.

LG: -4/0
LR1: -2/-1
RC: -6/-1 (bleh)
LR2: -5/-2

Overall 167. All I have really done is half of the trainer this month. No drilling at all.

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Re: June 2014 Retakers

Postby Retake3X » Sun Feb 09, 2014 10:56 pm

Thought I would drop in and say hello, considering another retake this June.

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Re: June 2014 Retakers

Postby FlyingNorth » Mon Feb 10, 2014 4:08 pm

rebexness wrote:Copying todays results into here since the other thread is always so dead.

rebexness wrote:Just did my first PT this session. Basically under test conditions except I forgot print a bubble sheet.

Did PT 39 at the test center, as a 4 section. Sloppy on LG but otherwise not disappointed for the first one. Second number denotes score after BR.

LG: -4/0
LR1: -2/-1
RC: -6/-1 (bleh)
LR2: -5/-2

Overall 167. All I have really done is half of the trainer this month. No drilling at all.


Sad, but so very true.

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Re: June 2014 Retakers

Postby cron1834 » Mon Feb 10, 2014 5:05 pm

Tentatively checking in for a June retake. I need to improve on LG.

I went with PowerScore exclusively the first time around, but I've been convinced to try Manhattan for Rd II. Thoughts on Cambridge packets as a supplement for Manhattan? What about LSAT Trainer? I'm unfamiliar with both. Thanks for any help!

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Re: June 2014 Retakers

Postby Retake3X » Mon Feb 10, 2014 5:14 pm

cron1834 wrote:Tentatively checking in for a June retake. I need to improve on LG.

I went with PowerScore exclusively the first time around, but I've been convinced to try Manhattan for Rd II. Thoughts on Cambridge packets as a supplement for Manhattan? What about LSAT Trainer? I'm unfamiliar with both. Thanks for any help!


I only used PowerScore at first, and was consistently in the -1 to -3 range. I found the Manhattan LG book to be rather helpful, and I used the Cambridge packets at the same time. After going through both I now find myself using a mix breed of diagram strategies, consistent -0's with a silly -1 thrown in every once in awhile.




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