The Official September 2014 Study Group

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby longhorn65 » Tue Jul 01, 2014 5:27 am

choward014 wrote:for some reason the games come natural to me. its all about making the diagram and getting the first problem which is always "which of the following could be the order..." once you get that, you can run through the rest fairly quickly because you already have one template. just base your other answers off of that because more times then not they will be fairly similar.

Lucky, LG have proven to be the hardest section for me. Luckily I truly enjoy them and I think I will be able to strengthen this weakness fairly quickly!

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby chimera » Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:30 am

rbrown0824 wrote:Sorry if it's been asked already, but which prep tests have you guys found the hardest? Also is anyone come closer to their blind review scores? Any tips on getting there?


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Postby dasani13 » Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:35 am

rbrown0824 wrote:Sorry if it's been asked already, but which prep tests have you guys found the hardest? Also is anyone come closer to their blind review scores? Any tips on getting there?


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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Louis1127 » Tue Jul 01, 2014 8:27 am

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Will y'all participate in this quick poll I made about how much time you spend on the passage in RC? It'l take 2 seconds and I'd appreciate the responses :D

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby cavalier2015 » Tue Jul 01, 2014 3:13 pm

this is a dumb question but do you guys go through your correct answers while drilling or just cover the incorrect answers. for example, i did level 1 and level 2 questions of prinicple identify (57 questions) and missed 2. do i spend time going through all the 57 and identifying correct answer choices and why or just focus on the 2 i missed. i think i have a solid understanding of the question type; i basically look for an answer choice that within the scope of the argument and covers all basses for the conclusion to occur. i essentially treat principle identify questions as sufficient assumptions. is this wrong?

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby DestroyingTheLSAT » Tue Jul 01, 2014 4:26 pm

cavalier2015 wrote:this is a dumb question but do you guys go through your correct answers while drilling or just cover the incorrect answers. for example, i did level 1 and level 2 questions of prinicple identify (57 questions) and missed 2. do i spend time going through all the 57 and identifying correct answer choices and why or just focus on the 2 i missed. i think i have a solid understanding of the question type; i basically look for an answer choice that within the scope of the argument and covers all basses for the conclusion to occur. i essentially treat principle identify questions as sufficient assumptions. is this wrong?


I only go over the correct answers I wasn't 100% sure of, if that helps.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Louis1127 » Tue Jul 01, 2014 4:30 pm

DivineJustice wrote:Took an LR section from pt 52 today. Took a -4. Two of my wrong answers were Weaken questions, and the other two were on MSS. Does anyone have tips for how to approach weaken sections? Every section or PT I take, that question always happens to be one of the wrong answers I get. Going to take an RC section (untimed) tomorrow and tell you guys how I do. Excited to take another PT this weekend to finally see some good results and hopefully not a terrible RC score.

The guy above me inspired me to make goals for this week:

1. Keep drilling and reviewing weaken question types
2. Start drilling LG again. Finish linear games this week. I'm set with LG but there has to be a reason I can't knock my score down to -0.
3. Drill MSS and MBT questions
4. Complete and review two untimed RC sections.


Hey DivineJustice,

Weirdly, I find myself doing very well on strengthen and weaken questions, but worse on flaw questions.

Obviously, you have to find the gap in the argument/the assumption/the flaw/ whatever you want to call it.

One tip that helps me on weaken questions is to prephrase AN answer. My prephrase probably won't be THE CREDITED RESPONSE, but it gets me thinking in terms of how to make the conclusion less likely from the premises, and I have found that it helps.

Interestingly, prephrasing an answer seems to help me on resolve the paradox questions as well, and those used to give me a ton of trouble.

Hope that helps!

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Yeezus » Tue Jul 01, 2014 4:52 pm

Was hoping I wouldn't be on this thread, but here I am. Got a 166 today, after PTing in the 170s. Have to prep more seriously this time around.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby ilikebaseball » Tue Jul 01, 2014 4:54 pm

YeezusPiece wrote:Was hoping I wouldn't be on this thread, but here I am. Got a 166 today, after PTing in the 170s. Have to prep more seriously this time around.

Tough test?

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Yeezus » Tue Jul 01, 2014 5:02 pm

choward014 wrote:
YeezusPiece wrote:Was hoping I wouldn't be on this thread, but here I am. Got a 166 today, after PTing in the 170s. Have to prep more seriously this time around.

Tough test?


Yeah, I thought it was harder than usual. I'm hoping my poor performance was mainly nerves. Feeling like Payton Manning after the Super Bowl right now... :|

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby some1uknown » Tue Jul 01, 2014 5:58 pm

retaking after June PT in the 160s range, bombed the test and got a 151, my first PT -__-

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby WaltGrace83 » Tue Jul 01, 2014 6:05 pm

some1uknown wrote:retaking after June PT in the 160s range, bombed the test and got a 151, my first PT -__-


You mean you scored the same as your diagnostic? How much did you study, eh?

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Calbears123 » Tue Jul 01, 2014 6:09 pm

163 was PT in the 168 170. Somehow went -6 on LG. Won't happen again

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby kbrizz » Tue Jul 01, 2014 6:25 pm

Okay I get that this is a rookie question but I just need some clarification please.

I've been working through my powerscore LGB and was wondering how to start drilling next.

1. Where do I get all the problems?
2. Does Cambridge or someone like that sell them in packages that have certain problems grouped? (IE, grouping, linear, advanced) etc?

Thanks in advance!

~ a very very very nervous september taker

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby some1uknown » Tue Jul 01, 2014 6:33 pm

WaltGrace83 wrote:
some1uknown wrote:retaking after June PT in the 160s range, bombed the test and got a 151, my first PT -__-


You mean you scored the same as your diagnostic? How much did you study, eh?



i put in about 20hrs a week for 3 months, i just don't know what happened to me on test day

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby WaltGrace83 » Tue Jul 01, 2014 6:43 pm

some1uknown wrote:
WaltGrace83 wrote:
some1uknown wrote:retaking after June PT in the 160s range, bombed the test and got a 151, my first PT -__-


You mean you scored the same as your diagnostic? How much did you study, eh?



i put in about 20hrs a week for 3 months, i just don't know what happened to me on test day


probably just a bit of anxiety. You won't be as anxious next time around! Let's kill this thing!

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby cavalier2015 » Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:01 pm

Is it a bad stratergy to not review questions that I got correct because I knew what the wrong answers were and why and just chose the one left and confirmed it and moved on.

DestroyingTheLSAT wrote:
cavalier2015 wrote:this is a dumb question but do you guys go through your correct answers while drilling or just cover the incorrect answers. for example, i did level 1 and level 2 questions of prinicple identify (57 questions) and missed 2. do i spend time going through all the 57 and identifying correct answer choices and why or just focus on the 2 i missed. i think i have a solid understanding of the question type; i basically look for an answer choice that within the scope of the argument and covers all basses for the conclusion to occur. i essentially treat principle identify questions as sufficient assumptions. is this wrong?


I only go over the correct answers I wasn't 100% sure of, if that helps.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby gavaga1 » Tue Jul 01, 2014 8:57 pm

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby CFC1524 » Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:01 pm

gavaga1 wrote:Just did the 7sage problem sets for Sufficient Assumption/Pseudo Sufficient Assumption questions.
-2/10 on both. Probably need more drilling material for these kinds of questions. Not too good at this conditional logic stuff :(.


Just takes practice. Diagramming is useful in the beginning, but you'll eventually get to the point where you don't have to map out the conditional logic (except in a few rare cases) for LR questions.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Louis1127 » Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:04 pm

gavaga1 wrote:Just did the 7sage problem sets for Sufficient Assumption/Pseudo Sufficient Assumption questions.
-2/10 on both. Probably need more drilling material for these kinds of questions. Not too good at this conditional logic stuff :(.

Prephrasing helps me, even when the answer choice doesn't resemble my prephrase, because it gets me thinking about that relationship between the premises and the conclusion, and how to close the gap between them.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Louis1127 » Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:06 pm

kbrizz wrote:Okay I get that this is a rookie question but I just need some clarification please.

I've been working through my powerscore LGB and was wondering how to start drilling next.

1. Where do I get all the problems?
2. Does Cambridge or someone like that sell them in packages that have certain problems grouped? (IE, grouping, linear, advanced) etc?

Thanks in advance!

~ a very very very nervous september taker


1. Cambridge LSAT is a great source, although be prepared for high printing costs (I suggest taking advantage of free printing privileges at you work or a friend's work).

2. You bet! Many, many TLSers use these.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

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