The Official September 2014 Study Group

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Colonel_funkadunk » Tue Sep 09, 2014 6:36 pm

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby ilikebaseball » Tue Sep 09, 2014 6:54 pm

PT 46 seems to have REALLY hard RC. The games are easy, the LR is average to below average, but the RC is really difficult. Especially the freakin coordination of laws passage. The prosperity one was hard too. I understood it fine, but the questions seemed hard. But the coordination one I couldnt tell you one damn thing

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Colonel_funkadunk » Tue Sep 09, 2014 6:55 pm

ilikebaseball wrote:PT 46 seems to have REALLY hard RC. The games are easy, the LR is average to below average, but the RC is really difficult. Especially the freakin coordination of laws passage. The prosperity one was hard too. I understood it fine, but the questions seemed hard. But the coordination one I couldnt tell you one damn thing


That was my first PT, did worse on RC than anything.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby sfoglia » Tue Sep 09, 2014 7:00 pm

Colonel_funkadunk wrote:
sfoglia wrote:WHAT. THE. FUCK.

I just got 4/6 of the questions on an RC passage incorrect. This has never happened to me before. I double-checked to make sure there wasn't some sort of bubbling error... I don't understand. I have never gotten this low of a score on RC.

This is fucking horrifying. I'm going to go cry outside and smoke a cigarette.

Back into the 160s I go.


I fucked that RC section up to, just one passage in particular especially .

You'll be cool

What kind of cig


Was it that stupid comparative on blackmail?

Marlboro. Dull my feelings.

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Did u do 65?


Yes, I hate it. Destroyer of dreams.

I want to sit for the September test so badly!

ETA: Bill, I went -2 on both LR sections and the experimental I added. :roll: I've spent the past two days reviewing RC and LG only, and those were the sections that dicked me.
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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby BillPackets » Tue Sep 09, 2014 7:03 pm

Ohhhh fuaaaaarrrrrrrk the blackmail passage gawd those Qs were freakin ridic!!!!!!

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby hetookmetoamovie » Tue Sep 09, 2014 7:05 pm

First -0 on RC ever for me in PT64! Unfortunately, this victory was offset by a -9 combined in LR. Maybe I just can't be taught how to logically reason/circle the right answer. Still happy about the 172 :-D

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby sfoglia » Tue Sep 09, 2014 7:12 pm

hetookmetoamovie wrote:First -0 on RC ever for me in PT64! Unfortunately, this victory was offset by a -9 combined in LR. Maybe I just can't be taught how to logically reason/circle the right answer. Still happy about the 172 :-D


OMG that's so great! Congratulations!! I knew you'd do fantastic.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Colonel_funkadunk » Tue Sep 09, 2014 7:15 pm

sfoglia wrote:
Colonel_funkadunk wrote:
sfoglia wrote:WHAT. THE. FUCK.

I just got 4/6 of the questions on an RC passage incorrect. This has never happened to me before. I double-checked to make sure there wasn't some sort of bubbling error... I don't understand. I have never gotten this low of a score on RC.

This is fucking horrifying. I'm going to go cry outside and smoke a cigarette.

Back into the 160s I go.


I fucked that RC section up to, just one passage in particular especially .

You'll be cool

What kind of cig


Was it that stupid comparative on blackmail?

Marlboro. Dull my feelings.

BillPackets wrote:
Did u do 65?


Yes, I hate it. Destroyer of dreams.

I want to sit for the September test so badly!

ETA: Bill, I went -2 on both LR sections and the experimental I added. :roll: I've spent the past two days reviewing RC and LG only, and those were the sections that dicked me.



Yea the blackmail section sucked major D

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Colonel_funkadunk » Tue Sep 09, 2014 7:15 pm

hetookmetoamovie wrote:First -0 on RC ever for me in PT64! Unfortunately, this victory was offset by a -9 combined in LR. Maybe I just can't be taught how to logically reason/circle the right answer. Still happy about the 172 :-D


That's what's up MOVIE

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby sfoglia » Tue Sep 09, 2014 7:21 pm

Colonel_funkadunk wrote:Yea the blackmail section sucked major D


All level 4s and 5s according to LSATQA.

I was going to just do every LG that every existed and keep studying LR and RC leisurely, but now I'm going to do every LG that ever existed and every single difficult RC I can possibly get my hands on, too.

The only problem is that if I still don't end up sitting for the September test, I'll have burned through a lot of study material... :?

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby BillPackets » Tue Sep 09, 2014 7:23 pm

hetookmetoamovie wrote:First -0 on RC ever for me in PT64! Unfortunately, this victory was offset by a -9 combined in LR. Maybe I just can't be taught how to logically reason/circle the right answer. Still happy about the 172 :-D


That's what's up that's pretty much exactly what I did this weekend but guessin u went -0 on lg n I made 1 dumb mistake Idk I don't think it's a bad distribution

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby hetookmetoamovie » Tue Sep 09, 2014 7:46 pm

Thanks, sfoglia! Thanks, Colonel! :-D I swear, this test is an emotional rollercoaster from hell.

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hetookmetoamovie wrote:First -0 on RC ever for me in PT64! Unfortunately, this victory was offset by a -9 combined in LR. Maybe I just can't be taught how to logically reason/circle the right answer. Still happy about the 172 :-D


That's what's up that's pretty much exactly what I did this weekend but guessin u went -0 on lg n I made 1 dumb mistake Idk I don't think it's a bad distribution


Yeah! I merrily started on Game #1 having misread the rules, so when I realized that, I got super paranoid about all of the other games.

For once I didn't miss any LsatQA level 1 questions, which makes me feel like maybe I'm building up some more endurance and not just making (as many) stupid mistakes. I missed mostly Strengthen/Weaken questions with a few Role/MSS/MBTs thrown in there for good measure.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby santoki » Tue Sep 09, 2014 7:49 pm

getting tripped up negating answer choices sometimes...can you guys give me your negations of the following?

1. no business can survive without changing its core corporate philosophy.
2. a business cannot change its core corporate philosophy without becoming a different corporation.

what are the general guidelines for these choices with multiple things that can be negated? thanks a bunch :D

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Colonel_funkadunk » Tue Sep 09, 2014 7:55 pm

santoki wrote:getting tripped up negating answer choices sometimes...can you guys give me your negations of the following?

1. no business can survive without changing its core corporate philosophy.
2. a business cannot change its core corporate philosophy without becoming a different corporation.

what are the general guidelines for these choices with multiple things that can be negated? thanks a bunch :D


Take your on topics back to the December thread


Just kidding, but te person who responded in there had the proper negations if I remember correctly, in number one change no business to some business and in number two u can change cannot to can

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby santoki » Tue Sep 09, 2014 8:02 pm

schmelling wrote:
santoki wrote:getting tripped up negating answer choices sometimes...can you guys give me your negations of the following?

1. no business can survive without changing its core corporate philosophy.
2. a business cannot change its core corporate philosophy without becoming a different corporation.

what are the general guidelines for these choices with multiple things that can be negated? thanks a bunch :D


1) a business might survive even if it does not change its core corporate philosophy
2) a business might change its core corporate philosophy even without becoming a different corporation

you negate a sufficient/necessary statement by showing that the sufficient condition does absolutely require the necessary. Basically, you show the sufficient can exist without the necessary.

Take the following example:

If you wanted to convince me that all apples are red, you would show me a red apple and say something like this:

"If an object is not red it cannot be an apple"

And I would respond by pulling out a green apple and responding:

"Even if an object is not red, it might still be an apple."

Thus negating your statement.

Hope this helps.


thank you, september frenemies. i was once a part of you but have since become the departed.

(appreciate the insight!)

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby BillPackets » Tue Sep 09, 2014 8:41 pm

santoki wrote:getting tripped up negating answer choices sometimes...can you guys give me your negations of the following?

1. no business can survive without changing its core corporate philosophy.
2. a business cannot change its core corporate philosophy without becoming a different corporation.

what are the general guidelines for these choices with multiple things that can be negated? thanks a bunch :D


Also duder when u really start understanding what negating means you'll b able to throw "it is not the case that..." On the beginning of any sentence and understand how that negates it

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby MEAhrnsbrak » Tue Sep 09, 2014 8:44 pm

sfoglia wrote:
Colonel_funkadunk wrote:I was going to just do every LG that every existed and keep studying LR and RC leisurely, but now I'm going to do every LG that ever existed and every single difficult RC I can possibly get my hands on, too.


Have you tried the Cambridge packet of difficult passages? I started using those and they helped immensely.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Colonel_funkadunk » Tue Sep 09, 2014 8:47 pm

MEAhrnsbrak wrote:
sfoglia wrote:
Colonel_funkadunk wrote:I was going to just do every LG that every existed and keep studying LR and RC leisurely, but now I'm going to do every LG that ever existed and every single difficult RC I can possibly get my hands on, too.


Have you tried the Cambridge packet of difficult passages? I started using those and they helped immensely.


Whoa whoa whoa I never said that

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby BillPackets » Tue Sep 09, 2014 8:50 pm

Colonel_funkadunk wrote:
MEAhrnsbrak wrote:
sfoglia wrote:
Colonel_funkadunk wrote:I was going to just do every LG that every existed and keep studying LR and RC leisurely, but now I'm going to do every LG that ever existed and every single difficult RC I can possibly get my hands on, too.


Have you tried the Cambridge packet of difficult passages? I started using those and they helped immensely.


Whoa whoa whoa I never said that


Quoting faux pax it's ok we welcome all n grey usually the 1 who explains to ppl how to quote/embed/use all those functions

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby MEAhrnsbrak » Tue Sep 09, 2014 8:57 pm

Sorry that's what happens when you type on your ipad while letting the dog out! Clearly wasn't paying attention to the text I was cutting out!

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby sfoglia » Tue Sep 09, 2014 8:57 pm

MEAhrnsbrak wrote:
sfoglia wrote:
Colonel_funkadunk wrote:I was going to just do every LG that every existed and keep studying LR and RC leisurely, but now I'm going to do every LG that ever existed and every single difficult RC I can possibly get my hands on, too.


Have you tried the Cambridge packet of difficult passages? I started using those and they helped immensely.


Just started those today. I did five and only went -1 on two of them. How long did those take you? I'm hit 14 minutes on one of them!

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby sfoglia » Tue Sep 09, 2014 8:59 pm

Colonel_funkadunk wrote:
MEAhrnsbrak wrote:
sfoglia wrote:
Colonel_funkadunk wrote:I was going to just do every LG that every existed and keep studying LR and RC leisurely, but now I'm going to do every LG that ever existed and every single difficult RC I can possibly get my hands on, too. Every morning I flex my biceps in the mirror and say, "LSAC I am coming for you," in my meanest voice.[/s]


Have you tried the Cambridge packet of difficult passages? I started using those and they helped immensely.


Whoa whoa whoa I never said that


Gosh, that's so embarrassing for you, to have her quote you saying that.

ETA: Or he. Sorry, MEA. Not sure your gender.




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