The Official September 2014 Study Group

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby kevgogators » Sun Sep 07, 2014 1:09 am

20 DAZE.

Is anyone's else life in shambles right now?

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby sfoglia » Sun Sep 07, 2014 1:10 am

BillPackets wrote:
diiggidy wrote:
BillPackets wrote:Well when you get into the post 16 range the Qs get more difficult.

You should def see if u can find some sort of pattern w the strengthen/weaken. Did u do all the drilling packets ?


I haven't done all the packets, but a lot of the question types i'm essentially 100% on so it wouldn't be worth it. I did 1's and 2's for Strengthen/Weaken, Flaw, and NA. Any suggestions for trying to find patterns in missed questions? I've looked through them, and nothing so far has jumped out at me.


What do u mean that u are essentially 100% on those Qs? Didn't u miss 6 combined on LR on the PT u took today?

LR constantly repeats itself. The same type of trap answers will show up again and again (such as premise boosters), the same type of flaws will show up again and again (causal, overvaluing a trait, etc). LSAC will use the same logic an correct answer choices for certain types of flaws (e.g. if it is a weaken Q, and the flaw is that the stimulus overvalues a trait, look for an answer choice that calls that trait into question/shows something else is at play).

Just one example: I know in the more recent tests a somewhat common strengthen answer choice is one that simply reinforces the premise of the argument (such as showing the premise holds in nearly identical circumstances. IMHO it's a pretty subtle strengthener and one that I initially had an issue w but I started recognizing it and now see it for what it is.


I feel like you are the LR whisperer or maybe just my personal LR spirit animal or something.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby BillPackets » Sun Sep 07, 2014 1:13 am

sfoglia wrote:
BillPackets wrote:Well when you get into the post 16 range the Qs get more difficult.

You should def see if u can find some sort of pattern w the strengthen/weaken. Did u do all the drilling packets ?


All as in every one of Cambridge's? No. I have this massive Kaplan tome that sorts by question types, and I also have every single test from 1-55, so I haven't felt the need. I've been only using Cambridge for my weakest areas: Strengthen, Weaken, Parallel Reasoning.


I'm real curious about your issues w strengthen/weaken. Sometimes I think it's helpful to take any assumption family Q (flaw, NA, SA, etc) and write out potential answers to every type of assumption family Q. So write down weakeners, strengtheners, NAs, SAs, flaw(s). I know that helped me really see how each type of assumption family Q turns on one another. Sometimes the correct answer choices in Strengthen Qs sound a whole lot like NA.

Idk just kind of an interesting thing to do.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby BillPackets » Sun Sep 07, 2014 1:16 am

sfoglia wrote:I feel like you are the LR whisperer or maybe just my personal LR spirit animal or something.


LOL. No. I wish. Most of the regular score posters on here do a lot better than I do on LR. I did have a pretty tough time w it initially tho so I spent a lot of time working on assumption fam Qs.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby BillPackets » Sun Sep 07, 2014 2:35 am

Hey guys real bored here was browsing thru the LSAT threads n noticed a thread bout game 4 from the June test. Sum1 posted similar games from the past so I thot I would share it here as we get real close to the test date.

PT1Sec2Game4
PT11Sec1Game4
PT13Sec1Game4
PT16Sec1Game4

Sry I kno been uncharastericslly postin on topic for awhile (by awhile I mean today) but I am actually preppin for this thing so it comes thru sometimes wild bill will return on Monday

Oh also apparently the 1 from PT 11 is "extremely similar" fwiw just want to get max bey ITT

ETA: went thru the packets and found these Qs...PTs 11,13,16 r all in the MISC. packet, PT 1 is in undetermined assignment (per Cambridge drilling packets)
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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby BillPackets » Sun Sep 07, 2014 2:40 am

kevgogators wrote:20 DAZE.

Is anyone's else life in shambles right now?


If by shambles u mean going thru my old Cambridge lg packets and compiling the most difficult/weird/not common games to review at 12:40 AM MST then yeah it's in shambles

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby BillPackets » Sun Sep 07, 2014 2:41 am

Shitpoasting to literally no one in particular maybe pg 227 will be the page of bill

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby ilikebaseball » Sun Sep 07, 2014 2:55 am

sup

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby BillPackets » Sun Sep 07, 2014 2:55 am

ilikebaseball wrote:sup


Sup baseball just up looking at some LGs

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby BillPackets » Sun Sep 07, 2014 2:57 am

ilikebaseball wrote:sup


Also congrats at surpassing the 1K post mark

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby ilikebaseball » Sun Sep 07, 2014 3:08 am

oh shit didnt even see that. im a real boy now pa

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby BillPackets » Sun Sep 07, 2014 3:14 am

ilikebaseball wrote:oh shit didnt even see that. im a real boy now pa


When more ppl r awake we will have to have another celebration ITT just did PT16S1G4 not too bad def diff tho kind of an interesting game lots of possibilities so kind of time consuming but pretty cool over all

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby BJS » Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:37 am

Spent all yesterday working, so I'm ready to use my remaining weekend on a six-section PT 67!

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Colonel_funkadunk » Sun Sep 07, 2014 8:03 am

BillPackets wrote:Shitpoasting to literally no one

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby AOT » Sun Sep 07, 2014 9:20 am

Morning everyone.

Yup. I'm in shambles

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby diiggidy » Sun Sep 07, 2014 9:32 am

BillPackets wrote:
diiggidy wrote:
BillPackets wrote:Well when you get into the post 16 range the Qs get more difficult.

You should def see if u can find some sort of pattern w the strengthen/weaken. Did u do all the drilling packets ?


I haven't done all the packets, but a lot of the question types i'm essentially 100% on so it wouldn't be worth it. I did 1's and 2's for Strengthen/Weaken, Flaw, and NA. Any suggestions for trying to find patterns in missed questions? I've looked through them, and nothing so far has jumped out at me.


What do u mean that u are essentially 100% on those Qs? Didn't u miss 6 combined on LR on the PT u took today?

LR constantly repeats itself. The same type of trap answers will show up again and again (such as premise boosters), the same type of flaws will show up again and again (causal, overvaluing a trait, etc). LSAC will use the same logic an correct answer choices for certain types of flaws (e.g. if it is a weaken Q, and the flaw is that the stimulus overvalues a trait, look for an answer choice that calls that trait into question/shows something else is at play).

Just one example: I know in the more recent tests a somewhat common strengthen answer choice is one that simply reinforces the premise of the argument (such as showing the premise holds in nearly identical circumstances. IMHO it's a pretty subtle strengthener and one that I initially had an issue w but I started recognizing it and now see it for what it is.


By 100% I meant that over the last 8 PTs I've taken, I haven't missed any MC, Method, Parallel Reasoning etc. So basically your advice is to keep going over the assumption family questions so I can more easily see the flaws and pick out the trap answers?

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Louis1127 » Sun Sep 07, 2014 11:04 am

BillPackets wrote:Hey guys real bored here was browsing thru the LSAT threads n noticed a thread bout game 4 from the June test. Sum1 posted similar games from the past so I thot I would share it here as we get real close to the test date.

PT1Sec2Game4
PT11Sec1Game4
PT13Sec1Game4
PT16Sec1Game4

Sry I kno been uncharastericslly postin on topic for awhile (by awhile I mean today) but I am actually preppin for this thing so it comes thru sometimes wild bill will return on Monday

Oh also apparently the 1 from PT 11 is "extremely similar" fwiw just want to get max bey ITT

ETA: went thru the packets and found these Qs...PTs 11,13,16 r all in the MISC. packet, PT 1 is in undetermined assignment (per Cambridge drilling packets)


thanks 4 this, will look at these sometime within the next 20 days.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Colonel_funkadunk » Sun Sep 07, 2014 11:29 am

smccgrey wrote:
alloverthat wrote:Morning everyone.

Yup. I'm in shambles


Edit: maybe I should just resort to quoting all day

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby hetookmetoamovie » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:10 pm

I'm going to take PT63 today. I'm wearing some camo-patterned tights because I'm dressing for the job I want. Which is LSAT guerrilla.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby AOT » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:25 pm

For those applying this cycle: do you all have the other bits of your app together yet? E.g LOR's, sent transcript to LSAC etc

I haven't even thought about any of this yet. Worried that since my UG is international it'll all take even longer than usual.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Colonel_funkadunk » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:29 pm

hetookmetoamovie wrote:I'm going to take PT63 today. I'm wearing some camo-patterned tights because I'm dressing for the job I want. Which is LSAT guerrilla.


FYI I love you

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby dasani13 » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:30 pm

alloverthat wrote:For those applying this cycle: do you all have the other bits of your app together yet? E.g LOR's, sent transcript to LSAC etc

I haven't even thought about any of this yet. Worried that since my UG is international it'll all take even longer than usual.


Yes- get on it!

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Colonel_funkadunk » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:31 pm

alloverthat wrote:For those applying this cycle: do you all have the other bits of your app together yet? E.g LOR's, sent transcript to LSAC etc

I haven't even thought about any of this yet. Worried that since my UG is international it'll all take even longer than usual.


I put it all together for a cycle a few years ago n LSAC keeps them all file for 5 years so I got lucky there

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Hand » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:36 pm

alloverthat wrote:For those applying this cycle: do you all have the other bits of your app together yet? E.g LOR's, sent transcript to LSAC etc

I haven't even thought about any of this yet. Worried that since my UG is international it'll all take even longer than usual.


I have my LORs and transcripts complete, still need to write my PS. Note that it can take a long time for foreign undergrad records to be processed - excluding the time wasted by the institution, it took me about two months from the moment my records were mailed. But someone else in the international applicants thread reported that LSAC processed his records in 8 business days (for me it was more like 20).

As to LSAT prep, I'm gonna take PT67 today (have 68/69 planned for next weekend, and 70/71 for the weekend after).



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