The Official September 2014 Study Group

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby flash21 » Mon Sep 01, 2014 3:04 pm

GreenTee wrote:
flash21 wrote:
Is this some type of grouping game, or is it some really weird / rare type game? If its the latter, then never mind. I guess I sort of assumed that it was a grouping / linear game.

Appreciate the help!


It's really just an in/out game. The only thing weird about it is that there's an extra variable. Remember that game about the male/female greyhounds/Labradors? It's the same setup, but Dinos is even simpler. There's basically one tricky inference, and if you get it, the game cracks open.


Ah. I see. Appreciate all the help.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Colonel_funkadunk » Mon Sep 01, 2014 3:31 pm

Took PT61 today 5 section:

RC: -7
LR1: -2
LG: -1
LR2: -2

170

Still having issues about timing on RC, not really sure what went wrong on the forgery passage. And lol @ me thinking I can ever get through a pt without making at
Least one dumb LG mistake that stems from misreading the question

Edit: the experimental LR section had those old stims w 2 questions so it was pretty obvious it was experimental.
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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby schmelling » Mon Sep 01, 2014 3:34 pm

The CD game is an unholy demon.

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Postby Colonel_funkadunk » Mon Sep 01, 2014 3:37 pm

schmelling wrote:The CD game is an unholy demon.


New used CDs?

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby schmelling » Mon Sep 01, 2014 3:40 pm

Colonel_funkadunk wrote:Took PT61 today 5 section:

RC: -7
LR1: -2
LG: -1
LR2: -2

170

Still having issues about timing on RC, not really sure what went wrong on the forgery passage. And lol @ me thinking I can ever get through a pt without making at
Least one dumb LG mistake that stems from misreading the question

Edit: the experimental LR section had those old stims w 2 questions so it was pretty obvious it was experimental.



Great score though, those are some seriously strong LR and LG numbers. Someone on this forum suggested I skip one time consuming question per passage on RC when I was having time issues, I never tried it because I got down into the -5 range so the math didn't add up, but if you're missing 7 due to timing maybe it would help.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby schmelling » Mon Sep 01, 2014 3:41 pm

Colonel_funkadunk wrote:
schmelling wrote:The CD game is an unholy demon.


New used CDs?


Yep. one of the most time consuming games I've confronted. Took me 11 minutes and I got one wrong.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby P.J.Fry » Mon Sep 01, 2014 3:43 pm

Colonel_funkadunk wrote:
schmelling wrote:The CD game is an unholy demon.


New used CDs?


If new Jazz is on sale, then all Pop and no Rap is on sale but some used Rock is on sale only if it has been played less than 7 times and contains more than one track by ACDC but not Hell's Bells.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Colonel_funkadunk » Mon Sep 01, 2014 3:44 pm

schmelling wrote:
Colonel_funkadunk wrote:Took PT61 today 5 section:

RC: -7
LR1: -2
LG: -1
LR2: -2

170

Still having issues about timing on RC, not really sure what went wrong on the forgery passage. And lol @ me thinking I can ever get through a pt without making at
Least one dumb LG mistake that stems from misreading the question

Edit: the experimental LR section had those old stims w 2 questions so it was pretty obvious it was experimental.



Great score though, those are some seriously strong LR and LG numbers. Someone on this forum suggested I skip one time consuming question per passage on RC when I was having time issues, I never tried it because I got down into the -5 range so the math didn't add up, but if you're missing 7 due to timing maybe it would help.


Well only 3/4 were due to timing, 3 was just a passage that I just messed all up. But I'll look into that or some version of that idea thanks

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Colonel_funkadunk » Mon Sep 01, 2014 3:45 pm

schmelling wrote:
Colonel_funkadunk wrote:
schmelling wrote:The CD game is an unholy demon.


New used CDs?


Yep. one of the most time consuming games I've confronted. Took me 11 minutes and I got one wrong.


I've done that one twice, about the same time to finish it, a little quicker the second time, and both time I missed the third question bc I missed the word new in the question

Edit: lol fry that's exactly how I feel

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Gray » Mon Sep 01, 2014 3:50 pm

BillPackets wrote:Where's Toby at? He was supposed to be having an LSAT bender this weekend

He's probably still mid bender.

Just did 65 and almost went maximum Beyonce, but then totally dropped the ball in the last section.

Exp RC (pt 32) -3
LR1 -0
LG -1 (had to guess on one, guessed wrong)
RC -2
LR2 -3 ...UGH 2 of these were "HEY, DUMBASS, PAY ATTENTION" mistakes.

177! Yay-ish

I'm still getting used to 5 section PTs, but it's not as bad as I thought in would be.

Now to go enjoy what's left of the long weekend!

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby gnomgnomuch » Mon Sep 01, 2014 3:51 pm

Hey all,

Just a quick question, how do you read a LR question? I decided to get the LR bible - never used it before, and I know a lot of people swear by it - and it says to read it top-to- bottom, but I've always read the question stem first, then the stimulus and then the answer choices.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Colonel_funkadunk » Mon Sep 01, 2014 3:51 pm

sfoglia wrote:Considering taking a second five-section PT in a few hours... Worst idea ever? My next PT will be Saturday, because work. :(


I think your head might explode sfog

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Colonel_funkadunk » Mon Sep 01, 2014 3:53 pm

gnomgnomuch wrote:Hey all,

Just a quick question, how do you read a LR question? I decided to get the LR bible - never used it before, and I know a lot of people swear by it - and it says to read it top-to- bottom, but I've always read the question stem first, then the stimulus and then the answer choices.


Question stem first personally

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby gnomgnomuch » Mon Sep 01, 2014 3:55 pm

Colonel_funkadunk wrote:
gnomgnomuch wrote:Hey all,

Just a quick question, how do you read a LR question? I decided to get the LR bible - never used it before, and I know a lot of people swear by it - and it says to read it top-to- bottom, but I've always read the question stem first, then the stimulus and then the answer choices.


Question stem first personally


You think it might be worth it to read top-down once? See how it goes?

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Colonel_funkadunk » Mon Sep 01, 2014 3:56 pm

gnomgnomuch wrote:
Colonel_funkadunk wrote:
gnomgnomuch wrote:Hey all,

Just a quick question, how do you read a LR question? I decided to get the LR bible - never used it before, and I know a lot of people swear by it - and it says to read it top-to- bottom, but I've always read the question stem first, then the stimulus and then the answer choices.


Question stem first personally


You think it might be worth it to read top-down once? See how it goes?


Personally I used to and my timing improved substantially after switching

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Colonel_funkadunk » Mon Sep 01, 2014 3:56 pm

smccgrey wrote:
BillPackets wrote:Where's Toby at? He was supposed to be having an LSAT bender this weekend

He's probably still mid bender.

Just did 65 and almost went maximum Beyonce, but then totally dropped the ball in the last section.

Exp RC (pt 32) -3
LR1 -0
LG -1 (had to guess on one, guessed wrong)
RC -2
LR2 -3 ...UGH 2 of these were "HEY, DUMBASS, PAY ATTENTION" mistakes.

177! Yay-ish

I'm still getting used to 5 section PTs, but it's not as bad as I thought in would be.

Now to go enjoy what's left of the long weekend!



NICE

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby gnomgnomuch » Mon Sep 01, 2014 3:57 pm

Colonel_funkadunk wrote:
gnomgnomuch wrote:
Colonel_funkadunk wrote:
gnomgnomuch wrote:Hey all,

Just a quick question, how do you read a LR question? I decided to get the LR bible - never used it before, and I know a lot of people swear by it - and it says to read it top-to- bottom, but I've always read the question stem first, then the stimulus and then the answer choices.


Question stem first personally


You think it might be worth it to read top-down once? See how it goes?


Personally I used to and my timing improved substantially after switching


Hmm, I've never had a problem with timing, I actually finish around the 28 minute mark - which is why going -3-5 is so frustrating, because it means im just not getting the material, instead of rushing through it and making stupid mistakes. I've had 1 section where I went perfect, and a couple where I've went -1/2, but usually its around 3 on one and 4/5 on the other.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby schmelling » Mon Sep 01, 2014 4:03 pm

gnomgnomuch wrote:
Colonel_funkadunk wrote:
gnomgnomuch wrote:Hey all,

Just a quick question, how do you read a LR question? I decided to get the LR bible - never used it before, and I know a lot of people swear by it - and it says to read it top-to- bottom, but I've always read the question stem first, then the stimulus and then the answer choices.


Question stem first personally


You think it might be worth it to read top-down once? See how it goes?



FWIW I always go Stim--> Question Stem--> Answer choices I finish in time and sometimes have to skip a hard Parallel question to do so. Almost invariably go -5 combined with a -1, -4 or -2, -3 split. Working on getting faster at parallel questions this week.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby gnomgnomuch » Mon Sep 01, 2014 4:06 pm

schmelling wrote:
gnomgnomuch wrote:
Colonel_funkadunk wrote:
gnomgnomuch wrote:Hey all,

Just a quick question, how do you read a LR question? I decided to get the LR bible - never used it before, and I know a lot of people swear by it - and it says to read it top-to- bottom, but I've always read the question stem first, then the stimulus and then the answer choices.


Question stem first personally


You think it might be worth it to read top-down once? See how it goes?



FWIW I always go Stim--> Question Stem--> Answer choices I finish in time and sometimes have to skip a hard Parallel question to do so. Almost invariably go -5 combined with a -1, -4 or -2, -3 split. Working on getting faster at parallel questions this week.


I really think i'll try to do it this way on my next PT, since obviously whatever I'm doing isn't working.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby dasani13 » Mon Sep 01, 2014 4:21 pm

I'm reviewing PT 62-- these RC questions are so tricky.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby sfoglia » Mon Sep 01, 2014 4:22 pm

Colonel_funkadunk wrote:
sfoglia wrote:Considering taking a second five-section PT in a few hours... Worst idea ever? My next PT will be Saturday, because work. :(


I think your head might explode sfog


It might. But I'm going to do it anyway. I feel really alert, and I have the PTs to spare. I honestly don't expect any improvement; it's just that I am really struggling now that I've added a 5th section, and I think it's due to fatigue. Hoping to increase my endurance.

Sure I'm going to regret this decision in a few more hours...

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby sfoglia » Mon Sep 01, 2014 4:25 pm

smccgrey wrote:
BillPackets wrote:Where's Toby at? He was supposed to be having an LSAT bender this weekend

He's probably still mid bender.

Just did 65 and almost went maximum Beyonce, but then totally dropped the ball in the last section.

Exp RC (pt 32) -3
LR1 -0
LG -1 (had to guess on one, guessed wrong)
RC -2
LR2 -3 ...UGH 2 of these were "HEY, DUMBASS, PAY ATTENTION" mistakes.

177! Yay-ish

I'm still getting used to 5 section PTs, but it's not as bad as I thought in would be.

Now to go enjoy what's left of the long weekend!


Major Beyonce!

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby flash21 » Mon Sep 01, 2014 4:41 pm

Why is RC apparently harder guys? Is reading for structure just as important as ever?

Im kinda freaked out since I'm already bad at RC and haven't hit the new tests yet.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby chimera » Mon Sep 01, 2014 4:51 pm

Somehow forgot how to LG during PT60-- ran out of time, missread rules, total disaster. They weren't even particularly tricky, except for game 3. I just put the test away and I figure I'll finish (with a new attempt at the games) and review it tomorrow. At least LR went well in section 1.




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