The Official September 2014 Study Group

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Gray » Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:19 pm

I think LG on PT 55 was the first time I went -0 with minutes to spare. I didn't find that bus game weird at all. But then again -6 on RC, so, 55 wasn't my fave.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Colonel_funkadunk » Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:23 pm

smccgrey wrote:I think LG on PT 55 was the first time I went -0 with minutes to spare. I didn't find that bus game weird at all. But then again -6 on RC, so, 55 wasn't my fave.


I def feel that. But you are mad genius

In my defense I did the section while laying on my stomach on my bed so I wasn't in the right Frame of mind *excuses excuses*

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby BJS » Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:25 pm

I haven't watched the 7Sage video on the bus game, but I went -0 and finished the section with around three minutes left. I did it three weeks ago, so I don't remember everything, but I used a two-level diagram.

_ _ _ _ (Passengers: G J R V)
_ _ _ _ (Stops: F L M S)
1 2 3 4

Here's how I diagramed the rules:

#1
_ _ _ _
L/ L/ _ _
1 2 3 4

#2

R
M or M > R

#3

V > J

#4

J
F or F>J ---> GS (G above S) or S > G

So for example:

#21

Here's the mini-diagram I wrote to the side to get me thinking.
_ _ _ _
F L _ _ means that #4 is evoked (GS (G above S) or S>G)
R
J

(A) can be eliminated because G must be at or after S, and S can only be 3 or 4 here.
(B) can be eliminated because R can't be first or second here (violates rule #2).
(C) can be eliminated because G must be at or after S, and S can only be 3 or 4 here.
(E) can be eliminated because R can't be first or second here (violates rule #2)

So by POE D must be the answer.

Sorry for the massive post and I'm not sure I actually answered anyone's question.

ETA: rereading the rules it looks like I missed a diagram on the last rule. It should include:

J>F ---> G>S

ETA2: Ugh phpBB screws up all the formatting.
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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Colonel_funkadunk » Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:29 pm

Thanks BJS, my diagram to an extent was similar globally. But I see what you're saying want you did w the local rules in the questions. I think that's what I messed up the most.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Gray » Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:31 pm

Colonel_funkadunk wrote:In my defense I did the section while laying on my stomach on my bed so I wasn't in the right Frame of mind *excuses excuses*

I did that once when I was home sick. It was Superprep C and HOLY SHIT that was MAY? Where has the time gone?

Anyway lying in bed is not a great way to stay focused.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Colonel_funkadunk » Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:33 pm

If no one has told you all today, I love you all and this thread. iE I have no social life

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Colonel_funkadunk » Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:34 pm

smccgrey wrote:
Colonel_funkadunk wrote:In my defense I did the section while laying on my stomach on my bed so I wasn't in the right Frame of mind *excuses excuses*

I did that once when I was home sick. It was Superprep C and HOLY SHIT that was MAY? Where has the time gone?

Anyway lying in bed is not a great way to stay focused.


Which RC passages tripped you up the most on 55

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby sfoglia » Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:43 pm

gnomgnomuch wrote:Finished PT 48.

LR 1 - -5
LG - -4
RC - -5
LR 2- -3

Overall: 84/101.
Score: 163

Does anyone have any ideas on how to get better? This is so disheartening, I've literally just been grounded in the low-mid 160's since mid July, with each of my PT's ranging from 161-165, usually getting a 163/164.


I think we've discussed before... I feel like the best use of your time is to focus on LG. Get LG down to no more than -1. Drill, drill, drill. It looks like you have the fundamentals down, so, I think with some dedication you can do this within a few days. So, that's +3, let's say, putting you at a 87/101, about a 166...

Then definitely LR, because it is half of the test. Is there a type of question you a getting wrong more frequently? There must be some pattern there, whether it is with question type or the way that you approach it, even it's location within the section. You may not see it, but it has to be there.

I think that both of us are just going to have to hone in on our exact weaknesses, and drill, drill, drill, just be super focused if we want to make the September test date. I'm at least 5 points short of my target score, so it isn't looking so great for me either!

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Gray » Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:46 pm

Colonel_funkadunk wrote:Which RC passages tripped you up the most on 55

errrr the first 4?

hahaha it was -2, -1, -2, -1, so...evenly spread out.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby sfoglia » Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:54 pm

Colonel_funkadunk wrote:
sfoglia wrote:
Colonel_funkadunk wrote:
sfoglia wrote:
I do need grocery shopping, but I actually was going to go browse shoes. I didn't do well, so maybe I should make grocery shopping my punishment.

PT 55
LR1: -3
LR Experimental.: -3
RC: -6 WTFFDUIHRHRB. This is my best section. I am so angry at myself. I ran out of time, but it doesn't matter. I am soooo mad. I want to light a bonfire, throw this stupid facking test into it, then drink whiskey until it's dark while having someone Marlboro cowboy play the harmonica blues on a log next to me. Crackle, crackle, cicada, sadness.
LR2: -3
LG: -2

I've been consistently at -2 for each section, so, this is definitely a step backward. I'm going to have to double my studying.


What did you think of games on pt55. I just drilled the section and thot the last one was pretty tough, I went -2 also. I go -0 95% of the time when drilling lg sections?

Edit: or anyone else who wants to chime in about lg on pt 55


I skipped the final question on that, since I did my games out of order and needed to leave enough time for the Mercocock study that preceded it. I got one wrong on that game, too. :/

But, I did find it pretty tough, because you had to balance so much information in your head. Like, "Okay, Jasmine is off the bus, which leaves Greg and Rosa, blahblah.

How did you diagram? I considered briefly doing a kind of grid where I'd have a space for each person still on the bus, but then I just defaulting to a 1:1, with one space for the person who got off at each stop. I'm not sure that even makes any sense, put into words.

I wasn't going to bother reviewing LG, but it's clear to me now that I really should look that game up on 7Sage and Odyssey. Thank you for mentioning!

(Edited to remove unnecessary quotes.)


Yea I tried to diagram it with a double layer sequencing type thing and it just wasn't doing me any good. I ended up basically brute forcing it and holding a lot of info in my head. I missed the second one on that game. I also missed one on the sequencing game before it bc I said both R and T can't be 4th and not just T due to reading my diagram wrong.

Def look & 7sage bc he'll make u feel lie an idiot for not finishing the game in like 5 minutes. He does say it's one of the hardest LSAT games tho.

Which RC did you have the most trouble with. I just did the Kingston and economics passages after seeing you guys talk about them. I missed the weakening one on the Kingston passage. Haven't tried the first two yet.

And yes I split PT 55 all up for drilling. 57-72 are my true pt tests due to time constraints


Yeah, I felt this massive relief when he said that it was one of the hardest games.

For those two RC, I think it is just that I ran out of time - JP called 5 minutes when I was on the last Kingston question, so I had less than 5 minutes for the economics passage. I got that last Kingston question wrong, and 2 wrong on the Economics. I am almost positive I would've had all three correct if not for the time issue.

However, I had 2 or 3 wrong on the science passage about the stupid overgrown weeds, and I struggled the most with that one, for sure.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby sfoglia » Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:00 pm

Colonel_funkadunk wrote:If no one has told you all today, I love you all and this thread. iE I have no social life


Me too!

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Gray » Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:00 pm

sfoglia wrote:
Colonel_funkadunk wrote:If no one has told you all today, I love you all and this thread. iE I have no social life


Me too!

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby schmelling » Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:10 pm

family bbq today really ate into my study time. wanted to put in 4 hours when I got back but felt too tired. Went for an hour of simple games instead just to keep my head in the right space. Hitting in/out games, method/flawed method of reasoning, and Parallel/Parallel Flaw tomorrow.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby BJS » Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:19 pm

smccgrey wrote:
sfoglia wrote:
Colonel_funkadunk wrote:If no one has told you all today, I love you all and this thread. iE I have no social life


Me too!


Quoting from PT36 RC P1: "People [in Internet communities] often form genuine, trusting relationships, even offering advice and support during personal crises such as illness or the loss of a loved one."

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Gray » Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:27 pm

BJS wrote:
smccgrey wrote:
sfoglia wrote:
Colonel_funkadunk wrote:If no one has told you all today, I love you all and this thread. iE I have no social life


Me too!


Quoting from PT36 RC P1: "People [in Internet communities] often form genuine, trusting relationships, even offering advice and support during personal crises such as illness or the loss of a loved one."

<3

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Colonel_funkadunk » Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:33 pm

BJS wrote:
smccgrey wrote:
sfoglia wrote:
Colonel_funkadunk wrote:If no one has told you all today, I love you all and this thread. iE I have no social life


Me too!


Quoting from PT36 RC P1: "People [in Internet communities] often form genuine, trusting relationships, even offering advice and support during personal crises such as illness or the loss of a loved one."


+1

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Gray » Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:48 pm

Is it normal to nap like a hibernating bear after each PT?

I usually come home, eat too much and then pass the fuck out.

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Postby hetookmetoamovie » Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:51 pm

BJS wrote:
smccgrey wrote:
sfoglia wrote:
Colonel_funkadunk wrote:If no one has told you all today, I love you all and this thread. iE I have no social life


Me too!


Quoting from PT36 RC P1: "People [in Internet communities] often form genuine, trusting relationships, even offering advice and support during personal crises such as illness or the loss of a loved one."


I love this (though Amar from PT57 might object and claim that intimacy is not possible without direct personal contact). :D

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Postby Learn_Live_Hope » Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:55 pm

schmelling wrote:family bbq today really ate into my study time. wanted to put in 4 hours when I got back but felt too tired. Went for an hour of simple games instead just to keep my head in the right space. Hitting in/out games, method/flawed method of reasoning, and Parallel/Parallel Flaw tomorrow.


Same here. Weekend has been a fail. :|

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Colonel_funkadunk » Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:04 pm

hetookmetoamovie wrote:
I love this (though Amar from PT57 might object and claim that intimacy is not possible without direct personal contact). :D


Hahaha true LSAT prowess comes from cross PT comparisons

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Colonel_funkadunk » Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:05 pm

smccgrey wrote:Is it normal to nap like a hibernating bear after each PT?

I usually come home, eat too much and then pass the fuck out.


Yes. I always want to review right away and instead throw my paper at the wall and eat ice cream

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Glad we're on the same page:
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Is that like a meta post? Posting picture of TLS on TLS

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BillPackets wrote:Is that like a meta post? Posting picture of TLS on TLS

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