The Official September 2014 Study Group

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby boris09 » Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:02 pm

Was looking forward to making this post ever since I finished this past PT yesterday!

PT 56
LG: 18/25 (umm..stupid table sofa recliner game lmao)
LR1: 19/25 (meh...it happens)
LR2: 23/25 (tied for my highest LR score)
RC: 23/27 (highest RC score ever)

165!!!

Analysis: Very surprising result. My previous PT scores have been 162, 161, and 160. All of these tests i've been averaging around 77-79 correct answer choices, so this bump all the way up to 83 correct answer choices and a new high is quite pleasant. However, the most surprising part of this test is that i thought i destroyed the first two sections, and that i got pummeled on the last two...especially RC, which i had to quickly go to a loud tim hortons to write it during my 15 minute break since the library was closing. ALSO, this was my highest RC score as well!

All in all, i'm very happy to know that i have the capability of doing well on this test. I'm going to take this score with a grain of salt though, since i have yet to produce or reproduce similar work. I'm just hoping that I can get anything over 160 for this september writing, and then re-write to aim for that 170 in december

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby ilikebaseball » Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:03 pm

ilikebaseball wrote:Fix by adding problems... what are these? apparently i have a problem


hate to bump this... but i wanna read the chapter before i leave the library tonight lol

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Learn_Live_Hope » Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:05 pm

boris09 wrote:Was looking forward to making this post ever since I finished this past PT yesterday!

PT 56
LG: 18/25 (umm..stupid table sofa recliner game lmao)
LR1: 19/25 (meh...it happens)
LR2: 23/25 (tied for my highest LR score)
RC: 23/27 (highest RC score ever)

165!!!

Analysis: Very surprising result. My previous PT scores have been 162, 161, and 160. All of these tests i've been averaging around 77-79 correct answer choices, so this bump all the way up to 83 correct answer choices and a new high is quite pleasant. However, the most surprising part of this test is that i thought i destroyed the first two sections, and that i got pummeled on the last two...especially RC, which i had to quickly go to a loud tim hortons to write it during my 15 minute break since the library was closing. ALSO, this was my highest RC score as well!

All in all, i'm very happy to know that i have the capability of doing well on this test. I'm going to take this score with a grain of salt though, since i have yet to produce or reproduce similar work. I'm just hoping that I can get anything over 160 for this september writing, and then re-write to aim for that 170 in december


Congrats boris!!!

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby BJS » Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:06 pm

I've been grinding through the Cambridge difficulty LR packet recently. It's really giving me trouble. These early PTs have ridiculous LR questions that don't fit into any category. PT7 S4 Q19 (#61 in packet) -- what is this?? The calendar and scheduling conflicts question.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Gray » Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:08 pm

boris09 wrote: However, the most surprising part of this test is that i thought i destroyed the first two sections, and that i got pummeled on the last two...especially RC, which i had to quickly go to a loud tim hortons to write it during my 15 minute break since the library was closing.


first of all, nice score bump!!

also:

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby ilikebaseball » Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:08 pm

BJS wrote:I've been grinding through the Cambridge difficulty LR packet recently. It's really giving me trouble. These early PTs have ridiculous LR questions that don't fit into any category. PT7 S4 Q19 (#61 in packet) -- what is this?? The calendar and scheduling conflicts question.

PROMISE you... you get better as it goes. Even though the questions get harder, you start getting more right. Which would seem to indicate that you're getting better in general

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Colonel_funkadunk » Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:09 pm

ilikebaseball wrote:
ilikebaseball wrote:Fix by adding problems... what are these? apparently i have a problem


hate to bump this... but i wanna read the chapter before i leave the library tonight lol


What do you mean. Maybe I missed a post b4 these 2

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Learn_Live_Hope » Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:13 pm

Colonel_funkadunk wrote:
ilikebaseball wrote:
ilikebaseball wrote:Fix by adding problems... what are these? apparently i have a problem


hate to bump this... but i wanna read the chapter before i leave the library tonight lol


What do you mean. Maybe I missed a post b4 these 2


I'm lost as well…would love to help, but don't really understand the question.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby ilikebaseball » Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:20 pm

The problems on LR that I'm missing are called "Fix by Adding" and I dont know what these are

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Learn_Live_Hope » Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:22 pm

ilikebaseball wrote:The problems on LR that I'm missing are called "Fix by Adding" and I dont know what these are


According to whose classification? I've never heard of those before.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby ilikebaseball » Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:23 pm

zen of 180

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Colonel_funkadunk » Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:25 pm

ilikebaseball wrote:zen of 180


Dafuq? Idk what those are. Is it like resolve the paradox type q's i mean that doesn't really make sense but idk

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Colonel_funkadunk » Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:27 pm

Colonel_funkadunk wrote:
ilikebaseball wrote:zen of 180


Dafuq? Idk what those are. Is it like resolve the paradox type q's i mean that doesn't really make sense but idk


Nbd just looked it up- they are flaw questions where the flaw is criticized for overlooking something

Edit: that's weirdly specific

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Learn_Live_Hope » Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:30 pm

Colonel_funkadunk wrote:
ilikebaseball wrote:zen of 180


Dafuq? Idk what those are. Is it like resolve the paradox type q's i mean that doesn't really make sense but idk


They are flaw questions!!!

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby ilikebaseball » Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:31 pm

Colonel_funkadunk wrote:
Colonel_funkadunk wrote:
ilikebaseball wrote:zen of 180


Dafuq? Idk what those are. Is it like resolve the paradox type q's i mean that doesn't really make sense but idk


Nbd just looked it up- they are flaw questions where the flaw is criticized for overlooking something

Edit: that's weirdly specific


so theyre "the passage is flawed simply because it overlooks ____"

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Learn_Live_Hope » Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:31 pm

Colonel_funkadunk wrote:
Colonel_funkadunk wrote:
ilikebaseball wrote:zen of 180


Dafuq? Idk what those are. Is it like resolve the paradox type q's i mean that doesn't really make sense but idk


Nbd just looked it up- they are flaw questions where the flaw is criticized for overlooking something

Edit: that's weirdly specific


Same here. I just looked it up! ;)

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby ilikebaseball » Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:33 pm

It says that theyre only asked 3 times on average every test though.... so like what does the question stem look like and how do you approach them?

In other words, if I wanted to read in the Trainer how to deal with these problems, which chapter would I go to specifically

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Colonel_funkadunk » Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:34 pm

Learn_Live_Hope wrote:
Colonel_funkadunk wrote:
Colonel_funkadunk wrote:
ilikebaseball wrote:zen of 180


Dafuq? Idk what those are. Is it like resolve the paradox type q's i mean that doesn't really make sense but idk


Nbd just looked it up- they are flaw questions where the flaw is criticized for overlooking something

Edit: that's weirdly specific


Same here. I just looked it up! ;)


Lol I've never heard of them described that way

Interestingly enough it said they account for an average of 8 points on newer lsats
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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Colonel_funkadunk » Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:35 pm

ilikebaseball wrote:It says that theyre only asked 3 times on average every test though.... so like what does the question stem look like and how do you approach them?

In other words, if I wanted to read in the Trainer how to deal with these problems, which chapter would I go to specifically


I believe it'd be one of the two sections about types of flaws. I'm working right now so I don't have the trainer handy

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby ilikebaseball » Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:38 pm

lol will someone do me a favor and look it up in the trainer? specifically the ones listed, not just general flaw. Its weird how I have no problem with most flaw questions and f these ones up

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Colonel_funkadunk » Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:40 pm

ilikebaseball wrote:lol will someone do me a favor and look it up in the trainer? specifically the ones listed, not just general flaw. Its weird how I have no problem with most flaw questions and f these ones up


What do you mean specifically the ones listed?

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby ilikebaseball » Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:41 pm

Colonel_funkadunk wrote:
ilikebaseball wrote:lol will someone do me a favor and look it up in the trainer? specifically the ones listed, not just general flaw. Its weird how I have no problem with most flaw questions and f these ones up


What do you mean specifically the ones listed?


"The flaw is that the passage overlooks ___"

Wherever those are in the book haha

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Jon McCarty » Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:46 pm

ilikebaseball wrote:
Colonel_funkadunk wrote:
ilikebaseball wrote:lol will someone do me a favor and look it up in the trainer? specifically the ones listed, not just general flaw. Its weird how I have no problem with most flaw questions and f these ones up


What do you mean specifically the ones listed?


"The flaw is that the passage overlooks ___"

Wherever those are in the book haha

These ones look like flaws but play like Weaken so just treat them like a Weaken question and you should start to improve.

Hope this helps!

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Colonel_funkadunk » Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:47 pm

ilikebaseball wrote:
Colonel_funkadunk wrote:
ilikebaseball wrote:lol will someone do me a favor and look it up in the trainer? specifically the ones listed, not just general flaw. Its weird how I have no problem with most flaw questions and f these ones up


What do you mean specifically the ones listed?


"The flaw is that the passage overlooks ___"

Wherever those are in the book haha


I just got home give me 5 min to look it up

Edit: you could look @ trainer pg 74/75 and do the drills while only focusing on fails to consider, not takes for granted




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