The Official September 2014 Study Group

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby BillPackets » Wed Aug 27, 2014 7:39 pm

I have a worthless MA, am 3ish years out of UG. Currently a middle school librarian. Other WE includes unemployment.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby hetookmetoamovie » Wed Aug 27, 2014 7:40 pm

Not sure why I'm arbitrarily being cheap now, but is there a list somewhere of games included in the "Difficult" Cambridge bundle?

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby ilikebaseball » Wed Aug 27, 2014 7:42 pm

On my 15 minute break now. Took the time to grade the first 3 (that considered cheating? Whatever) and I've only missed one so far. Probably just jinxed myself but thats probs a record for me. Havent seen RC though...

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Gray » Wed Aug 27, 2014 7:46 pm

ilikebaseball wrote:On my 15 minute break now. Took the time to grade the first 3 (that considered cheating? Whatever) and I've only missed one so far. Probably just jinxed myself but thats probs a record for me. Havent seen RC though...


I always fuck up after I grade myself halfway through.

GOOD LUCK.

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Postby Colonel_funkadunk » Wed Aug 27, 2014 7:48 pm

BillPackets wrote: Other WE includes unemployment.


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Postby valen » Wed Aug 27, 2014 7:55 pm

2 years out of UG working FT in vendor relationship/contract management and supply chain negotiation + (a pretty worthless) MA in intl bizniss

Hoping these two things help cover up for my horseshit UG GPA

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby hetookmetoamovie » Wed Aug 27, 2014 8:29 pm

Lol, I feel old. 11 years out of UG. Worked in rural SE Asia setting up clinics for a year; got an MPH; HIV counseling for a bit; sold my soul and worked in finance for 7 years; currently in an Eat/Pray/Love/unemployment phase. Wondering how adcomms will look at my personal narrative. Also, I signed up for the LSAT 5 years ago but was too scared to leave my job at the time.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby sfoglia » Wed Aug 27, 2014 8:37 pm

lsat_hopefull wrote:Has anyone on here used any of the resources or services provided by odyssey test prep? I am getting underway with a major study effort and their rep on here has been really helpful so far. Should I go with these guys and start spending money?


I haven't signed up for courses or tutoring, but I have been using their LG videos; I think their explanations are a lot more thorough than some of the competing videos. And, if their representative is any indication of the quality of their courses, I'd imagine them to be incredibly strong. He's been so helpful to me. A little bit in love with him.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby sashafierce » Wed Aug 27, 2014 8:58 pm

SupreprepC S3 Q16 Principle Conform question

So the principle was

Act Responsibly-----> Use Accurate and Complete Info

The explanation is saying we don't know what guarantees that someone "Acted Responsibly" so you can eliminate any answer choice that conclude that. We only know what is required so we can deduce:

Did not use Accurate or Complete info----> Did not Act Responsibly

(The contrapositive of the principle)

I understand that BUT my question is if the Principle was

Use Accurate and Complete Info---> Act Responsibly

In this case we know what guarantees that someone Acted Responsibly so we can make a judgement of someone "Acted Responsibly". However, can we make any judgements about someone Not Acting Responsibly i.e the contrapositive?

Not Act Responsibly-----> Did not use Accurate or Complete Info

I am assuming the answer is NO because we do not know what guarantees that someone did Not Act Responsibly.. Arghhh these questions are so frustrating sometimes :x
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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby sashafierce » Wed Aug 27, 2014 9:00 pm

sfoglia wrote:
lsat_hopefull wrote:Has anyone on here used any of the resources or services provided by odyssey test prep? I am getting underway with a major study effort and their rep on here has been really helpful so far. Should I go with these guys and start spending money?


I haven't signed up for courses or tutoring, but I have been using their LG videos; I think their explanations are a lot more thorough than some of the competing videos. And, if their representative is any indication of the quality of their courses, I'd imagine them to be incredibly strong. He's been so helpful to me. A little bit in love with him.


His question strategies are Really Good. I am hoping to the first Odyssey LG course success story :oops:

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby sfoglia » Wed Aug 27, 2014 9:01 pm

BillPackets wrote:I have a worthless MA, am 3ish years out of UG. Currently a middle school librarian. Other WE includes unemployment.


What do you have? I'm English, four years out from undergraduate study.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby sfoglia » Wed Aug 27, 2014 9:04 pm

sashafierce wrote:
sfoglia wrote:
lsat_hopefull wrote:Has anyone on here used any of the resources or services provided by odyssey test prep? I am getting underway with a major study effort and their rep on here has been really helpful so far. Should I go with these guys and start spending money?


I haven't signed up for courses or tutoring, but I have been using their LG videos; I think their explanations are a lot more thorough than some of the competing videos. And, if their representative is any indication of the quality of their courses, I'd imagine them to be incredibly strong. He's been so helpful to me. A little bit in love with him.


His question strategies are Really Good. I am hoping to the first Odyssey LG course success story :oops:


Yay! :P

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby BillPackets » Wed Aug 27, 2014 9:13 pm

sfoglia wrote:
BillPackets wrote:I have a worthless MA, am 3ish years out of UG. Currently a middle school librarian. Other WE includes unemployment.


What do you have? I'm English, four years out from undergraduate study.


Poli sci. Thot I wanted to be a prof until I found out that grad school was dumb.

I'm not sure what you mean by "I'm English"? Are you saying you're British?

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby flash21 » Wed Aug 27, 2014 9:14 pm

Hi guys would like some feed back. How do you determine which games you will fool proof? For example, if you miss one while drilling will you fool proof the game? I've got a few games here where I got them done in time but ended up missing just one question, not sure if fool proofing would be overkill

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby BillPackets » Wed Aug 27, 2014 9:26 pm

flash21 wrote:Hi guys would like some feed back. How do you determine which games you will fool proof? For example, if you miss one while drilling will you fool proof the game? I've got a few games here where I got them done in time but ended up missing just one question, not sure if fool proofing would be overkill


Wtf is fool proofing a game

I'm apt to say fool proof all them muhfukkas

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby sashafierce » Wed Aug 27, 2014 9:31 pm

BillPackets wrote:
flash21 wrote:Hi guys would like some feed back. How do you determine which games you will fool proof? For example, if you miss one while drilling will you fool proof the game? I've got a few games here where I got them done in time but ended up missing just one question, not sure if fool proofing would be overkill


Wtf is fool proofing a game

I'm apt to say fool proof all them muhfukkas


lol lol...its the 7sage method for getting better at LG, you basically print out 10 copies of any games that wre difficult for you, you look at the 7sage game explanation and then you do the game over and over again until you can make the same inference from the video without even thinking about it.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby BJS » Wed Aug 27, 2014 9:39 pm

sashafierce wrote:lol lol...its the 7sage method for getting better at LG, you basically print out 10 copies of any games that wre difficult for you, you look at the 7sage game explanation and then you do the game over and over again until you can make the same inference from the video without even thinking about it.


I love 7sage and it has been invaluable in my prep for logic games. Almost as much as the Powerscore Bible, it has given me the tools and confidence to succeed. But that kind of suggestion seems like a complete waste of time. If you have any kind of memory - and I assume good LSAT scorers typically do - you'll remember the key inferences and questions, so you're just wasting time doing it over and over again. If you're on a six month or longer study plan, that's fine. If studying is your full time job, that's fine. But for the rest of us, our time to prep is severely limited.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby sashafierce » Wed Aug 27, 2014 9:46 pm

BJS wrote:
sashafierce wrote:lol lol...its the 7sage method for getting better at LG, you basically print out 10 copies of any games that wre difficult for you, you look at the 7sage game explanation and then you do the game over and over again until you can make the same inference from the video without even thinking about it.


I love 7sage and it has been invaluable in my prep for logic games. Almost as much as the Powerscore Bible, it has given me the tools and confidence to succeed. But that kind of suggestion seems like a complete waste of time. If you have any kind of memory - and I assume good LSAT scorers typically do - you'll remember the key inferences and questions, so you're just wasting time doing it over and over again. If you're on a six month or longer study plan, that's fine. If studying is your full time job, that's fine. But for the rest of us, our time to prep is severely limited.


I feel you on that....although I think there is some benefit to doing over some games 3-5 times over a period of time to ensure that you understand the game and how to attack it in the most efficient manner.

Here is a link to his explanation for using the Fool Proof Method

http://7sage.com/how-to-get-a-perfect-s ... gic-games/

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby ilikebaseball » Wed Aug 27, 2014 9:47 pm

Fix by adding problems... what are these? apparently i have a problem

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby BillPackets » Wed Aug 27, 2014 9:47 pm

sashafierce wrote:
BillPackets wrote:
flash21 wrote:Hi guys would like some feed back. How do you determine which games you will fool proof? For example, if you miss one while drilling will you fool proof the game? I've got a few games here where I got them done in time but ended up missing just one question, not sure if fool proofing would be overkill


Wtf is fool proofing a game

I'm apt to say fool proof all them muhfukkas


lol lol...its the 7sage method for getting better at LG, you basically print out 10 copies of any games that wre difficult for you, you look at the 7sage game explanation and then you do the game over and over again until you can make the same inference from the video without even thinking about it.


I forgot that's what he called it.

I mean, probably did every game from 1-39 like 5x. 10 seems excessive. And I spaced them out. If you had real probz, I would so it at least 4x

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby BJS » Wed Aug 27, 2014 9:52 pm

sashafierce wrote:I feel you on that....although I think there is some benefit to doing over some games 3-5 times over a period of time to ensure that you understand the game and how to attack it in the most efficient manner.

Here is a link to his explanation for using the Fool Proof Method

http://7sage.com/how-to-get-a-perfect-s ... gic-games/


I work through a game once and score it. If I went -0 and didn't have any problems with it or finished with plenty of time, I'll review it in under five minutes to catch any things I could improve on. If I missed something (not a random mistake), had difficulty, or thought it was weird, I'll watch the 7sage video explanation. After watching the first five mintues or so, I've gotten a grasp on the inferences or diagramming structure I missed, so I'll go back and redo the game on my own, then finish the 7sage video.

It's been effective, since I haven't missed more than 3 on LG section since I started PTing. I do at least one LG a day with this method to stay sharp.

Some people can not work at all before the LSAT. Some days (like all of them this week), I wish I was one. But it just means I have to fit the same kind of study needs into a much smaller window, which means a lot of these high-drilling, high-PTing strategies are inefficient.




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