The Official September 2014 Study Group

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Toby Ziegler » Mon Aug 18, 2014 3:07 pm

hillz wrote:I usually study ~1 hour on weeknights and 10 hours total on weekends. I guess I could bump it up but I'm also worried about getting burnt out.

I think you're in a great place. And being a retaker I think you have a unique advantage that first time takers don't have. If you're able to really shore up your weaknesses from the first take coupled with the confidence of a first take (meaning you know exactly what to expect) under your belt you will be golden.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby HRomanus » Mon Aug 18, 2014 3:40 pm

hillz wrote:I usually study ~1 hour on weeknights and 10 hours total on weekends. I guess I could bump it up but I'm also worried about getting burnt out.


Forget burn out. Bump up your studying to 2-3 hours per weeknight (and push an hour in the morning if you can) and more studying on the weekends. If you really want to hit your score, you can.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby hillz » Mon Aug 18, 2014 3:42 pm

HRomanus wrote:
hillz wrote:I usually study ~1 hour on weeknights and 10 hours total on weekends. I guess I could bump it up but I'm also worried about getting burnt out.


Forget burn out. Bump up your studying to 2-3 hours per weeknight (and push an hour in the morning if you can) and more studying on the weekends. If you really want to hit your score, you can.


Got it. Any suggestions on avoiding fatigue besides working longer and hoping I adjust?

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Colonel_funkadunk » Mon Aug 18, 2014 3:53 pm

The last two LR sections I drilled and got -1 on and its always confusingly worded flaw question that gets me. I finished the games section of PT51 in 25 minutes and 30 seconds at -0. Let's hope they flow like that on test day.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby HRomanus » Mon Aug 18, 2014 3:56 pm

hillz wrote:
HRomanus wrote:
hillz wrote:I usually study ~1 hour on weeknights and 10 hours total on weekends. I guess I could bump it up but I'm also worried about getting burnt out.


Forget burn out. Bump up your studying to 2-3 hours per weeknight (and push an hour in the morning if you can) and more studying on the weekends. If you really want to hit your score, you can.


Got it. Any suggestions on avoiding fatigue besides working longer and hoping I adjust?


You'll definitely get into a rhythm the longer you work at it. I know that happened for me in the middle of July, and I've loved studying as much as possible since then. Just remember your goal and why you're doing this. Remember that the LSAT is the single greatest determinant of where you go to law school, which will itself determine where (or if) you start your career as a lawyer.
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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Gray » Mon Aug 18, 2014 4:08 pm

Colonel_funkadunk wrote:The last two LR sections I drilled and got -1 on and its always confusingly worded flaw question that gets me. I finished the games section of PT51 in 25 minutes and 30 seconds at -0. Let's hope they flow like that on test day.


Yup. Every goddamn time.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Irish11 » Mon Aug 18, 2014 4:12 pm

HRomanus wrote:Whenever I'm in a funk, I listen to football motivational speeches. My favorite is Tim Tebow's halftime speech in college - "We got 3[5] minutes for the rest of our lives, let’s go!" The LSAT really is similar to a football playoff game. You have three hours to lay everything on the field for three hours and the end score will judge you forever. Also another favorite is Ray Lewis' speech at a basketball game: "If you ain't pissed off for greatness, then you're okay with being mediocre."


http://videos.nymag.com/video/The-Ultimate-Coach-Taylor-Pep-T

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Colonel_funkadunk » Mon Aug 18, 2014 4:14 pm

smccgrey wrote:
Colonel_funkadunk wrote:The last two LR sections I drilled and got -1 on and its always confusingly worded flaw question that gets me. I finished the games section of PT51 in 25 minutes and 30 seconds at -0. Let's hope they flow like that on test day.


Yup. Every goddamn time.


I'm glad you understand my pain.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby schmelling » Mon Aug 18, 2014 4:18 pm

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Postby gavaga1 » Mon Aug 18, 2014 4:47 pm

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby some1uknown » Mon Aug 18, 2014 7:23 pm

Prep test 67
LR -15
LG -4
RC -8

-27 for 159

damnit, i got one more right than the previous test and still went down in score, also the damn zoning game was confusing to no end

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby dasani13 » Mon Aug 18, 2014 10:01 pm

gavaga1 wrote:
schmelling wrote:is anyone practicing 2-question-stimuli LR questions? I have a 100 of them on this TM HW and I am thinking of just skipping most of it. Anyone see any value in it?

What reason do you have for skipping them? Even though 2 question stimulis don't show up anymore, the questions asked are still the same kind of questions you'll see on your administration.


Some people were saying that there was a 2-question stim on a recent experimental.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby dasani13 » Mon Aug 18, 2014 10:05 pm

HRomanus wrote:
hillz wrote:I usually study ~1 hour on weeknights and 10 hours total on weekends. I guess I could bump it up but I'm also worried about getting burnt out.


Forget burn out. Bump up your studying to 2-3 hours per weeknight (and push an hour in the morning if you can) and more studying on the weekends. If you really want to hit your score, you can.


Yeah, I don't think you should be worried about burn out with ~1 hour of studying/weekday.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby schmelling » Mon Aug 18, 2014 10:23 pm

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby dasani13 » Mon Aug 18, 2014 10:33 pm

I'm finding PT 69 LR 2 #17 impossible to understand. I got it wrong during the PT and BR.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby mmorrell94 » Mon Aug 18, 2014 10:53 pm

Finally went over my PT from yesterday and I realized I misread the answer key and actually got a 174 :D :D :D

Does anyone else feel like the better they do on PTs the more stressed they are for the real thing? I used to think I would be ecstatic just to get a 170, but now that I know I can do better I'm going to be so crushed to not live up to that...

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Gray » Mon Aug 18, 2014 11:23 pm

mmorrell94 wrote:Finally went over my PT from yesterday and I realized I misread the answer key and actually got a 174 :D :D :D

Does anyone else feel like the better they do on PTs the more stressed they are for the real thing? I used to think I would be ecstatic just to get a 170, but now that I know I can do better I'm going to be so crushed to not live up to that...


Yeah definitely... and then you get to the point where you get a 173 on a PT and it makes you feel SAD, and you whine on TLS because its well below your average.

And then you realize you're kind of an asshole.

(talking about myself yesterday, to be clear.)

But in all seriousness, aim high - I know, I've said it before, but ultimately it's better to end disappointed with a 172 than thrilled about a 170.

And congrats on the 174 :D

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby cavalier2015 » Mon Aug 18, 2014 11:34 pm

can someone help me understand PT54.Section2.Question6.

I got this right because of POE but i am going through all the LR questions and typing up notes on them and am unsure how to break this one down.

Is it because the conclusion is a conditional and with no conditional chains. Thus, when this happens we want to protect the necessary condition (not sure what this even means but remember reading it somewhere in the powerscore bible)

EDIT: can someone double check my analysis on this question?

T: Necessary Assumption
C: If writing paper made from recycled paper replaces other types of writing paper → need to use more filler
Thoughts: This is an Assumption question with a conditional conclusion AND with no conditional premises. Therefore, we want to look for an answer choice that protects the necessary condition
AC:
A. Negation version does not destroy the argument
B. Out of scope to core
C. Correct because if grayish paper will be acceptable alternative to white paper than there is no need to use more filler (more filler = more white).
D. Premise booster. When negated this tells us more filler = more white. No effect on conclusion
E. Out of scope to core.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby DivineJustice » Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:27 am

PT 41:
LG: -0
LR1: - 5
LR2 - 7 :shock:
RC: -6

-18 overall for a score of 165

Was really depressed to see my total LR score go so bad. I've been pretty inconsistent these past few days. Really trying to shoot for a 168+ so really need to drill hardcore these next 7 days or push this to December.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby HRomanus » Tue Aug 19, 2014 10:12 am

smccgrey wrote:But in all seriousness, aim high - I know, I've said it before, but ultimately it's better to end disappointed with a 172 than thrilled about a 170.


When I took in Oct 2013 I basically went in with a "fuck it" attitude and would be fine with whatever I got. Thanks to TLS, I decided to withdraw my acceptances and retake this year. My top choice is Duke, so the highest I really need is a 172, but my goal is to push it as high as possible because it literally cannot hurt me (aside from YP). That's the power of the LSAT and it's why people against retakes are so blind.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Louis1127 » Tue Aug 19, 2014 11:44 am

PT 54, first PT in a while

162

RC -8
LR combined -7
LG -4

Kind of surprised that my score wasn't higher, given that I didn't bomb a game.

I need to work on comparative passages. this one killed me, and I have not done hardly any comparative passages at all, so at least there's a direction I can go with my prep.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby HRomanus » Tue Aug 19, 2014 11:46 am

Louis1127 wrote:PT 54, first PT in a while

162

RC -8
LR combined -7
LG -4

Kind of surprised that my score wasn't higher, given that I didn't bomb a game.

I need to work on comparative passages. this one killed me, and I have not done hardly any comparative passages at all, so at least there's a direction I can go with my prep.


That LR score is decent and you can hit 170s with it. RC is where you really need to clean things up. -8 is horrific and will prohibit you from consistently reaching 170s.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby bound » Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:00 pm

Does anyone have any suggestions (other than Manhattan) for RC? Trying to go less than -3 is gonna make me go crazy. Think I need to read another source for a different prespective.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Colonel_funkadunk » Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:16 pm

bound wrote:Does anyone have any suggestions (other than Manhattan) for RC? Trying to go less than -3 is gonna make me go crazy. Think I need to read another source for a different prespective.


I was referred to the following thread before and it seems to be pretty solid.

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