The Official September 2014 Study Group

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Learn_Live_Hope » Mon Aug 18, 2014 10:23 am

Toby Ziegler wrote:Going to try and do 100 questions from the Flaw packet today and drill grouping games. What technique have you good folks found works the best for grouping games? I have put off LG drilling in order to really nail LR/RC, so I have basic and advanced linear down pretty solid, but still need to drill the other types.


Flaw for me too today. Took another PT the other day Flaw got me again. :(

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Toby Ziegler » Mon Aug 18, 2014 10:30 am

Learn_Live_Hope wrote:
Toby Ziegler wrote:Going to try and do 100 questions from the Flaw packet today and drill grouping games. What technique have you good folks found works the best for grouping games? I have put off LG drilling in order to really nail LR/RC, so I have basic and advanced linear down pretty solid, but still need to drill the other types.


Flaw for me too today. Took another PT the other day Flaw got me again. :(

Yay for 100 pages. Yeah it seems that I have this dichotomy when faced with a flaw question. It either takes 40 seconds and is incredibly easy, or it takes 2:00 and I am not sure when selecting an answer.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Learn_Live_Hope » Mon Aug 18, 2014 10:34 am

Toby Ziegler wrote:
Learn_Live_Hope wrote:
Toby Ziegler wrote:Going to try and do 100 questions from the Flaw packet today and drill grouping games. What technique have you good folks found works the best for grouping games? I have put off LG drilling in order to really nail LR/RC, so I have basic and advanced linear down pretty solid, but still need to drill the other types.


Flaw for me too today. Took another PT the other day Flaw got me again. :(

Yay for 100 pages. Yeah it seems that I have this dichotomy when faced with a flaw question. It either takes 40 seconds and is incredibly easy, or it takes 2:00 and I am not sure when selecting an answer.


Same here. I get stuck!!! Every answer seems so tempting, and the right choice rarely makes sense :( I don't get them! I don't understand them! They are such a big part of LSAT though…we need to get them right! I guess most of the time..

When are you starting with your 100 questions? What level are you working on?
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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby ultraman » Mon Aug 18, 2014 10:34 am

Haven't been around for a long time... :P :P

How do you guys incorporate drill into your schedule?

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby HRomanus » Mon Aug 18, 2014 10:39 am

I am so jealous of you guys who can study like this during the weekdays.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Toby Ziegler » Mon Aug 18, 2014 10:42 am

Learn_Live_Hope wrote:
Toby Ziegler wrote:
Learn_Live_Hope wrote:
Toby Ziegler wrote:Going to try and do 100 questions from the Flaw packet today and drill grouping games. What technique have you good folks found works the best for grouping games? I have put off LG drilling in order to really nail LR/RC, so I have basic and advanced linear down pretty solid, but still need to drill the other types.


Flaw for me too today. Took another PT the other day Flaw got me again. :(

Yay for 100 pages. Yeah it seems that I have this dichotomy when faced with a flaw question. It either takes 40 seconds and is incredibly easy, or it takes 2:00 and I am not sure when selecting an answer.


Same here. I get stuck!!! Every answer seems so tempting, and the right choice rarely makes sense :( I don't get them! I don't understand them! They are such a big part of LSAT though…we need to get them right! I guess most of the time..

When are you starting with your 100 questions? What level are you working on?

I work until 3 (mountain time), so right after that. I have done the first 121 questions and only missed 3 so far. So I will do the rest of level 2 questions and all of level 3 questions. Something that is hard for me is the fact that I studied Philosophy in UG and when I identify a flaw I think, "Oh, that's a False Dichotomy fallacy." Or, "That's a Strawman." So a lot of this drilling is helping me to identify quickly what the LSAT names for these fallacies are. The nice thing, I've found with Flaw questions, is the fact that (for the most part) all of the shells and answer choices are recycled, so doing enough of them seems to be give you the "muscle memory" of the questions. If that makes sense..

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Toby Ziegler » Mon Aug 18, 2014 10:43 am

HRomanus wrote:I am so jealous of you guys who can study like this during the weekdays.

It's not the easiest with a spouse, kids, and near a full time job. Are you a morning person?

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Gray » Mon Aug 18, 2014 11:11 am

Toby Ziegler wrote:I work until 3 (mountain time), so right after that. I have done the first 121 questions and only missed 3 so far. So I will do the rest of level 2 questions and all of level 3 questions. Something that is hard for me is the fact that I studied Philosophy in UG and when I identify a flaw I think, "Oh, that's a False Dichotomy fallacy." Or, "That's a Strawman." So a lot of this drilling is helping me to identify quickly what the LSAT names for these fallacies are. The nice thing, I've found with Flaw questions, is the fact that (for the most part) all of the shells and answer choices are recycled, so doing enough of them seems to be give you the "muscle memory" of the questions. If that makes sense..


Yeah, I found that as soon as I started drilling those flaw questions, it became easier to know what to look for in the answers. Muscle memory sounds like the right description, actually...

My next LG book should be arriving tomorrow - I can't wait to drill LG again after yesterday's debacle.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby HRomanus » Mon Aug 18, 2014 11:15 am

Toby Ziegler wrote:
HRomanus wrote:I am so jealous of you guys who can study like this during the weekdays.

It's not the easiest with a spouse, kids, and near a full time job. Are you a morning person?


Jeez you have it worse than me. I withdraw my bitching.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Toby Ziegler » Mon Aug 18, 2014 11:19 am

HRomanus wrote:
Toby Ziegler wrote:
HRomanus wrote:I am so jealous of you guys who can study like this during the weekdays.

It's not the easiest with a spouse, kids, and near a full time job. Are you a morning person?


Jeez you have it worse than me. I take back my complaining.

No I don't think so, just like anything else you adapt and it becomes normal. Also having kids gives you the unfair advantage of forcing you into being a morning person. I try to do 2 hours of study before work (I don't feel guilty being away from my family when they're sleeping :wink: ) and 3 after. And when I PT I just do it after work.

ETA Everyone has their own circumstances that make things difficult.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Gray » Mon Aug 18, 2014 11:21 am

HRomanus wrote:
Toby Ziegler wrote:
HRomanus wrote:I am so jealous of you guys who can study like this during the weekdays.

It's not the easiest with a spouse, kids, and near a full time job. Are you a morning person?


Jeez you have it worse than me. I take back my complaining.


Yeah I have exactly the same situation, but without kids. I'm pretty determined to cook full home cooked meals as much as possible too, and my SO doesn't cook at all so my evenings are usually pretty busy (LG while stirring the pasta sauce? It's happened.)

But obviously the pros outweigh the cons!

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby HRomanus » Mon Aug 18, 2014 11:26 am

smccgrey wrote:Yeah I have exactly the same situation, but without kids. I'm pretty determined to cook full home cooked meals as much as possible too, and my SO doesn't cook at all so my evenings are usually pretty busy (LG while stirring the pasta sauce? It's happened.)

But obviously the pros outweigh the cons!


My girlfriend is coming back to college (I live 30 minutes away from it) this weekend and I'm not excited. I am exited to see her, but not looking forward to putting her off to study.
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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Gray » Mon Aug 18, 2014 11:43 am

HRomanus wrote:My girlfriend is coming back to college (I live 30 minutes away from it) this weekend and I'm not excited. I am exited to see her, but not looking forward to putting her off to study.


Hahaha don't worry, I think that's normal. Fortunately for me, LSAT time = Library Time, and for my SO Library Time= Thesis/Lesson Planning time, so we can both spend all weekend just working there for hours on end. Another plus is that I can actually use the school's library - not sure my ID still works after 3 years...

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby chimera » Mon Aug 18, 2014 11:55 am

HRomanus wrote:My girlfriend is coming back to college (I live 30 minutes away from it) this weekend and I'm not excited. I am exited to see her, but not looking forward to putting her off to study.


What happened to your #YOLO breakup from a few pages back?

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Learn_Live_Hope » Mon Aug 18, 2014 12:26 pm

chimera wrote:
HRomanus wrote:My girlfriend is coming back to college (I live 30 minutes away from it) this weekend and I'm not excited. I am exited to see her, but not looking forward to putting her off to study.


What happened to your #YOLO breakup from a few pages back?


:lol:

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby HRomanus » Mon Aug 18, 2014 12:47 pm

chimera wrote:
HRomanus wrote:My girlfriend is coming back to college (I live 30 minutes away from it) this weekend and I'm not excited. I am exited to see her, but not looking forward to putting her off to study.


What happened to your #YOLO breakup from a few pages back?


Ouch. You guys have great memories.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Toby Ziegler » Mon Aug 18, 2014 12:49 pm

HRomanus wrote:
chimera wrote:
HRomanus wrote:My girlfriend is coming back to college (I live 30 minutes away from it) this weekend and I'm not excited. I am exited to see her, but not looking forward to putting her off to study.


What happened to your #YOLO breakup from a few pages back?


Ouch. You guys have great memories.

Don't worry, HRomanus, we know everyone needs love. #NoJudgingHere

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby TX_UH » Mon Aug 18, 2014 12:49 pm

HRomanus wrote:
chimera wrote:
HRomanus wrote:My girlfriend is coming back to college (I live 30 minutes away from it) this weekend and I'm not excited. I am exited to see her, but not looking forward to putting her off to study.


What happened to your #YOLO breakup from a few pages back?


Ouch. You guys have great memories.


:twisted:

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby hillz » Mon Aug 18, 2014 1:50 pm

smccgrey wrote:
HRomanus wrote:My girlfriend is coming back to college (I live 30 minutes away from it) this weekend and I'm not excited. I am exited to see her, but not looking forward to putting her off to study.


Hahaha don't worry, I think that's normal. Fortunately for me, LSAT time = Library Time, and for my SO Library Time= Thesis/Lesson Planning time, so we can both spend all weekend just working there for hours on end. Another plus is that I can actually use the school's library - not sure my ID still works after 3 years...



Same kind of situation. I'm lucky that my SO doesn't expect to spend much time with me! :)

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby hillz » Mon Aug 18, 2014 1:59 pm

Starting to feel like I don't have enough time to improve before Sept 27. It's possible, right?

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby HRomanus » Mon Aug 18, 2014 2:00 pm

hillz wrote:Starting to feel like I don't have enough time to improve before Sept 27. It's possible, right?


Where are you at now? How much time do you have per day to study?

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby ilikebaseball » Mon Aug 18, 2014 2:26 pm

hillz wrote:Starting to feel like I don't have enough time to improve before Sept 27. It's possible, right?

You can definitely improve. There's still 6 weeks left... 6 WEEKS.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Toby Ziegler » Mon Aug 18, 2014 2:27 pm

ilikebaseball wrote:
hillz wrote:Starting to feel like I don't have enough time to improve before Sept 27. It's possible, right?

You can definitely improve. There's still 6 weeks left... 6 WEEKS.

Yep. If you can study for 25 hours a week for the next 6 weeks that's 150 hours of study.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby hillz » Mon Aug 18, 2014 3:04 pm

HRomanus wrote:
hillz wrote:Starting to feel like I don't have enough time to improve before Sept 27. It's possible, right?


Where are you at now? How much time do you have per day to study?


Around 170/171 average for past 5 PTs or so. I underperformed in June, so I've been drilling more this time around. Really want to break 170 but am nervous I won't.
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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby hillz » Mon Aug 18, 2014 3:04 pm

I usually study ~1 hour on weeknights and 10 hours total on weekends. I guess I could bump it up but I'm also worried about getting burnt out.




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