The Official September 2014 Study Group

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby sfoglia » Sun Aug 17, 2014 6:32 pm

flash21 wrote:
smccgrey wrote:Guys I just got demolished by PT 62. Worst PT in a LONG time! I managed to go -5 on LG.... LG!!! That's NEVER happened, not even in my diagnostic. And it was just a bunch of WTF mistakes that I don't even know how I made.

RC was a shit show too. Thank god for the curve and the fact that LR is 50% of the exam

RC -4
LG -5
LR -1

173 - Not bad... obviously I shouldn't be throwing a pity party, but :?


I'm sorry but you got demolished? and RC was a shit show? Some of you guys would die if you were scoring like me ( but I'm proud of my score)


And I'm sure that you should be. It's unrealistic for most of us to expect a score of 175+. And that's fine. With a strong enough GPA, it's just not necessary.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Gray » Sun Aug 17, 2014 7:13 pm

HRomanus wrote:Which questions did you miss on LG?


It was all spread out... 6, 10, 11, 15 and 22. All of them were just seriously dumb mistakes too. I was rushing through it for no good reason.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby boris09 » Sun Aug 17, 2014 7:19 pm

Had done four individual sections from PT 53 over the course of several days almost two weeks ago, but finally finished off the final RC section just now. I know it's not technically a timed test since i didn't do it all at once, but I did do each section under timed conditions and stayed within the 35 minute limit.

LR1: 18/25
LG: 21/23
LR2: 19/25
RC: 21/27 (-0, -2, -0, -4 ...that bloody science passage)

162.

Obviously not happy about my LR sections, as I've been sort of neglecting drilling them lately. However, the -6 is actually the highest I've scored on RC thus far which I guess is somewhat pleasing. I do worry slightly that my score may be a little skewed since I've seen some of the LR questions over the course of doing the LSAT Trainer. Furthermore, I feel as if I did the RC passage before, but I'm trying to maintain the idea that 'thinking you've seen the question before makes you question what you remember the answer to be, moreso than actually remembering the answer'. As an aside, I'm aiming for a 167-169 on test day (i know, i know, 'aim for 180', but at my current stage I'm just hoping I get a score that will give me a great shot at my desired schools).

ANYWAYS, going to write an actual, timed, 4-section PT as soon as I'm done with this post. Hopefully will return with positive results

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Postby flash21 » Sun Aug 17, 2014 7:22 pm

when will you guys begin 5 section PT's? Let say I'm writing in December, when I PT, when should I add a fifth section? and if I do 4 section PT's , do I just do 3 in a row, break for 10 minutes then go again?

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby HRomanus » Sun Aug 17, 2014 7:43 pm

flash21 wrote:when will you guys begin 5 section PT's? Let say I'm writing in December, when I PT, when should I add a fifth section? and if I do 4 section PT's , do I just do 3 in a row, break for 10 minutes then go again?


I started 5 section PTs this weekend after starting Scantron PTs last weekend. I'll bump up to 6 section PTs in two weekends.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby hillz » Sun Aug 17, 2014 8:24 pm

Pau.C. wrote:Hey, sorry to ask a random question, but does anyone know when we will get our Admission Tickets with the room numbers for our test location?

I really want to scope out my room and maybe take a PT in it if I can. Just so I can get the nerves out before the real deal. Thanks!


In June, I could access mine the week before. But the room changed at the last minute so scoping it out wouldn't have worked for me.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby HRomanus » Sun Aug 17, 2014 8:30 pm

smccgrey wrote:
HRomanus wrote:Which questions did you miss on LG?


It was all spread out... 6, 10, 11, 15 and 22. All of them were just seriously dumb mistakes too. I was rushing through it for no good reason.


I missed 20, 22, and 23. Oddly enough, I understood the game pretty well. I skipped G3 when I hit #15 and saw G4 was a linear game, so rushed through it as quickly as possible. I guess ultimately that was my undoing, because when going through BR I saw my mistakes in moments. I thought G3 was a bitch, but got lucky on some half-guesses and vague inferences.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby vracovino » Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:05 pm

gavaga1 wrote:
schmelling wrote:
vracovino wrote:
schmelling wrote:Does anyone know what the "Superprep" Pt's correspond to, and if they are made available to anyone else? I found somewhere that they are three february exams, and since Testmasters told me they aren't usually licensed february exams, that would make the superprep preptests an untapped source of material, which I would love to get my hands on.

However, if they are licensed out to other prep companies, I imagine testmasters gets them as well, which makes them less worth my time/money, since I'll encounter them on an experimental or HW anyway. Anyone with any info please help!


http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/097930506 ... 275&sr=8-1

They are three tests published by LSAC which have not been administered, and LSAC provides detailed explanations to every question in the tests, as well as general strategies for each section. It's a great resource.



Ordering immediately. Thanks.
They're actually past administered tests (February). The explanations are pretty helpful though.


My bad :oops:

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby HRomanus » Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:12 pm

schmelling wrote:decided that since I don't want to use any materials before it is time in our course, I am going back through all the games we have covered and rediagramming all of them, plus checking for inferences. Hoping to hone the process of working through a game since it is clearly coming least natural to me.

I am doing this so as to not waste all of my material with 6 weeks left til the exam. Whats everyone's opinion: waste of time, or valuable exercise?


It's six weeks - there's so much material it's hard to "waste" material or cover it twice. Go full throttle with everything you've got.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Gray » Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:25 pm

HRomanus wrote:I missed 20, 22, and 23. Oddly enough, I understood the game pretty well. I skipped G3 when I hit #15 and saw G4 was a linear game, so rushed through it as quickly as possible. I guess ultimately that was my undoing, because when going through BR I saw my mistakes in moments. I thought G3 was a bitch, but got lucky on some half-guesses and vague inferences.


Yeah! I felt like I understood the games, I just wasn't patient enough to actually work through them completely and got super careless. And #3 was definitely the hardest of the set imo... or maybe I was just distracted by the fact that they used Spivey's name and I kept lolling.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby cavalier2015 » Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:26 pm

pt 53, common law passage…what the actual fuck..

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby LeeAllen » Mon Aug 18, 2014 12:01 am

PT 38

LG -0
RC -2
LR -1

for a 179!! I haven't taken a full PT in about 8-10 days because I really needed to drill LR. I got and went through MLSAT (fantastic resource) and I went from averaging -2/3 per section to averaging -0/1 per section. The time I spent going through that combined with drilling from Cambridge definitely paid off.

I'm guessing that the score is somewhat inflated due to the fact that I've drilled some of those questions before when doing the Cambridge packets, but at least it is a good morale booster. PT 42 tomorrow.

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Postby HRomanus » Mon Aug 18, 2014 12:08 am

LeeAllen wrote:PT 38

LG -0
RC -2
LR -1

for a 179!! I haven't taken a full PT in about 8-10 days because I really needed to drill LR. I got and went through MLSAT (fantastic resource) and I went from averaging -2/3 per section to averaging -0/1 per section. The time I spent going through that combined with drilling from Cambridge definitely paid off.

I'm guessing that the score is somewhat inflated due to the fact that I've drilled some of those questions before when doing the Cambridge packets, but at least it is a good morale booster. PT 42 tomorrow.


That is wonderful! Congratulations! Definitely a testament to the power of drilling versus PTs.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby boris09 » Mon Aug 18, 2014 12:45 am

As promised, I am back after writing my first, fully-timed prep-test, and boy am I surprised in many different areas.

PT 66:

RC: 16/27 (-2, -4 jesus christ this one was difficult, -3, -2)
LR: 23/25 :shock:
LG: 21/23 (stupid, stupid mistakes)
LR: 17/26 :shock: :shock: :shock: (three of the wrong answer choices I had it down to two [one being the right, the other being the wrong] and chose the wrong choice)

SCORE: 161

Okay so...RC was quite tough, I usually average around -8, so I guess this isn't too far off, but I'm really annoyed with how long the second passage took, which could have changed how I approached the last two.

LR1....what the heck lol...the lowest I've ever gotten on an individual section was -5, so this was a pleasant surprise. But then...LR2???? I've never gotten more than 6 wrong in a section. Please tell me i'm not the only one that found the second LR ten times harder than the first?? Either way, I know that I can't neglect LR any more.

LG seems quite consistent now. If I could just improve my LR to a bit more consistent and better range, I feel as if I have a good shot at 165+

anybody else take 66 that might have any opinions on the RC, LR, or test in general?

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby boris09 » Mon Aug 18, 2014 1:37 am

schmelling wrote:
Oftentimes the two LR sections balance off each other, one being easier and the other being harder, this difference can be significant. Last week on a PT I went -1 on the first LR with a minute to spare, and didn't even get to look at the last 5 on the second. I don't know about that particular test, but it is not uncommon.


Yeah I figured it had to do with LSAC balancing the logical reasoning sections out, but I was curious if that was truly the case of LR2 being significantly harder, or if it was just me losing stamina or something and messing up on questions I should have gotten right

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Postby heidi828 » Mon Aug 18, 2014 1:46 am

boris09 wrote:As promised, I am back after writing my first, fully-timed prep-test, and boy am I surprised in many different areas.

PT 66:

RC: 16/27 (-2, -4 jesus christ this one was difficult, -3, -2)
LR: 23/25 :shock:
LG: 21/23 (stupid, stupid mistakes)
LR: 17/26 :shock: :shock: :shock: (three of the wrong answer choices I had it down to two [one being the right, the other being the wrong] and chose the wrong choice)

SCORE: 161

Okay so...RC was quite tough, I usually average around -8, so I guess this isn't too far off, but I'm really annoyed with how long the second passage took, which could have changed how I approached the last two.

LR1....what the heck lol...the lowest I've ever gotten on an individual section was -5, so this was a pleasant surprise. But then...LR2???? I've never gotten more than 6 wrong in a section. Please tell me i'm not the only one that found the second LR ten times harder than the first?? Either way, I know that I can't neglect LR any more.

LG seems quite consistent now. If I could just improve my LR to a bit more consistent and better range, I feel as if I have a good shot at 165+

anybody else take 66 that might have any opinions on the RC, LR, or test in general?



I took PT 66 today too. I got -5 on the first LR section, but -0 (for the first time in LR!) on the second section. I usually get around -3 per LR section so I guess it was the balancing effect for me too… except in the opposite direction.

All of the RC passages seemed pretty similar in difficulty for me. I'm glad that last passage only had 5 questions though because I was definitely running low on time.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby mmorrell94 » Mon Aug 18, 2014 9:57 am

cavalier2015 wrote:pt 53, common law passage…what the actual fuck..


yup, just got wrecked by that when drilling

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Toby Ziegler » Mon Aug 18, 2014 10:14 am

Going to try and do 100 questions from the Flaw packet today and drill grouping games. What technique have you good folks found works the best for grouping games? I have put off LG drilling in order to really nail LR/RC, so I have basic and advanced linear down pretty solid, but still need to drill the other types.




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