The Official September 2014 Study Group

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby gnomgnomuch » Thu Aug 14, 2014 11:32 pm

mornincounselor wrote:
gnomgnomuch wrote:
mornincounselor wrote:
gnomgnomuch wrote:AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGHHH.

Just did the 4 games from PT 46.

BLAZED through games 1-3, making only 2 stupid mistake, in 22 minutes. I had 13 minutes for game 4, THIRTEEN, didn't know what the hell I was doing and ended up going -6 for the entire game.

Anyone else had problems with that game?

It was the three sub committee one.


I remember drawing out a bunch of sub game boards with M and P across the top line for the first couple questions. It has lots of conditional rules in the questions and choices but only 2 simple A-->/B rules. So super open-ended but it was quick to make sgb's.
I had the mechanics figured out by the end of question 18 and ran though the other questions pretty quickly afterwards.

J.Y. explains it very well on 7sage. http://7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat ... -4-game-4/

I missed the first question.


J.Y explained it amazingly. It seems that every time I shore up one weakness in LG, another one springs up. For example, I was terrible at distribution games a couple weeks ago, got them down for the most part, now I'm terrible at open-ended games.

I need to find a list of the open-ended games and run through them a couple of times.

On the plus side, I want 38/40 on Main conclusion questions today, so that's something.


I was horrible at open ended games for a long while. I would just freeze up or else try to come up with a million boards before going into the questions. There was one packet that had a number of very open ended games in a row which helped me learn to embrace the uncertainty, I don't recall which one (helpful I know…).

Good job on the main conclusion questions. I still miss way too many main point questions in RC.

Which btw is going poorly. I've made it through 8 passages in 2 days. Ugh.


LSATQA is showing me that i go 30% correct on MC in LR, and 100% in RC... I don't know what to make of that + the 38/40 on today's LR MC packet. I think its just individual questions that trip me up during the course of the test.

I know what you mean, I lose Mon-Wed entirely to classes, the later parts of Thursday to work and the entirety of Sunday to work.
So, I'm really only studying with any seriousness on Thur/Fri/Sat, and I've got other stuff to do as well.

I don't see it getting better when I go from 4 credits to 15 in a couple weeks either, though I'll be taking only 6 substantive credits. (Yay for being a senior taking classes with freshman.)

If you do remember the open-ended packet, I would be really grateful.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby js123 » Thu Aug 14, 2014 11:51 pm

How much drilling is too much drilling?! Who could ever know...

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby joeisreallycool » Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:57 am

smccgrey wrote:
blacklungz wrote:
But it is according to this. It says this table will apply to all scores. http://i59.tinypic.com/zkoo5e.png

To answer your question, it allows them flexibility to change it every year, but not the year for which they have already set the Scaled Score/Percentile relationship for (see above).

Ehhh your explanation isn't that convincing.


Right, so looking at that exact chart, if you score a 176 on an exam between June 2014 to February 2015 (future tests) your percentile will be 99.7, meaning that you did better than 99.7% of people who took the test from 2011 to 2014.

And SORRY GUYS!!! I'll stop derailing the thread.... I'm really looking forward to drilling parallel/flaw this weekend. I honestly cannot wait to get to the library (it's been two weeks. ugh.)



I'm doing parallel flaw this weekend too!

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Learn_Live_Hope » Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:59 am

joeisreallycool wrote:
smccgrey wrote:
blacklungz wrote:
But it is according to this. It says this table will apply to all scores. http://i59.tinypic.com/zkoo5e.png

To answer your question, it allows them flexibility to change it every year, but not the year for which they have already set the Scaled Score/Percentile relationship for (see above).

Ehhh your explanation isn't that convincing.


Right, so looking at that exact chart, if you score a 176 on an exam between June 2014 to February 2015 (future tests) your percentile will be 99.7, meaning that you did better than 99.7% of people who took the test from 2011 to 2014.

And SORRY GUYS!!! I'll stop derailing the thread.... I'm really looking forward to drilling parallel/flaw this weekend. I honestly cannot wait to get to the library (it's been two weeks. ugh.)



I'm doing parallel flaw this weekend too!


Me too!!

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby 7sage » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:01 am

ilikebaseball wrote:
rebexness wrote:
ilikebaseball wrote:Okay guys, we have 7 people that are gonna split 7sage. That's enough for now... great job and I'll be in touch with all of you later tonight!!


Why do I feel like 7sage isn't going to be DTF with your plan to let multiple people piggyback on one account?

We dont know. Guess we'll find out. I've heard about a group doing it in the past though so its worth a shot.


J.Y. from 7Sage here.

We're not DTF. The LSAC is not DTF.

If we see too many random IPs from all over the place your account gets locked down. We send one email attached to the account and ask for a password reset. If that person shares the new password again, the account gets locked down again, longer this time. Rinse, repeat.

You want to do this, remember if these people are okay with scamming us, the same ones are okay with scamming you. That's why they say there's no honor among thieves.

If the LSAC gets wind of this and asks us about it, we will 100% disclose the compromised account. This means whoever's paying for the account is bearing all the risk. Even from a purely selfish perspective, it's a bad deal.

Also, why are you guys wasting your time scheming like this? You guys want to be lawyers one day right? Don't start your non-existent legal careers this way. It's not right. Don't you realize that your time is precious? There's so much that you could be thinking about. There's so much that's actually worth your attention and dare I say innovation. For example, this:
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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Egzon » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:02 am

First post in this thread, but you guys help me stay motivated!!

Any thoughts on LSAT Superprep A? I thought it was "too easy" for a test especially RC; I usually struggle with RC but this time, I was able to finish well under 35 minutes and I only made one mistake. I don't know if drilling paid off or if the test was just too easy haha

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Toby Ziegler » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:06 am

Learn_Live_Hope wrote:
joeisreallycool wrote:
smccgrey wrote:
blacklungz wrote:
But it is according to this. It says this table will apply to all scores. http://i59.tinypic.com/zkoo5e.png

To answer your question, it allows them flexibility to change it every year, but not the year for which they have already set the Scaled Score/Percentile relationship for (see above).

Ehhh your explanation isn't that convincing.


Right, so looking at that exact chart, if you score a 176 on an exam between June 2014 to February 2015 (future tests) your percentile will be 99.7, meaning that you did better than 99.7% of people who took the test from 2011 to 2014.

And SORRY GUYS!!! I'll stop derailing the thread.... I'm really looking forward to drilling parallel/flaw this weekend. I honestly cannot wait to get to the library (it's been two weeks. ugh.)



I'm doing parallel flaw this weekend too!


Me too!!

You guys! Me too!

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Colonel_funkadunk » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:11 am

7sage wrote:
ilikebaseball wrote:
rebexness wrote:
ilikebaseball wrote:Okay guys, we have 7 people that are gonna split 7sage. That's enough for now... great job and I'll be in touch with all of you later tonight!!


Why do I feel like 7sage isn't going to be DTF with your plan to let multiple people piggyback on one account?

We dont know. Guess we'll find out. I've heard about a group doing it in the past though so its worth a shot.


J.Y. from 7Sage here.

We're not DTF. The LSAC is not DTF.

If we see too many random IPs from all over the place your account gets locked down. We send one email attached to the account and ask for a password reset. If that person shares the new password again, the account gets locked down again, longer this time. Rinse, repeat.

You want to do this, remember if these people are okay with scamming us, the same ones are okay with scamming you. That's why they say there's no honor among thieves.

If the LSAC gets wind of this and asks us about it, we will 100% disclose the compromised account. This means whoever's paying for the account is bearing all the risk. Even from a purely selfish perspective, it's a bad deal.

Also, why are you guys wasting your time scheming like this? You guys want to be lawyers one day right? Don't start your non-existent legal careers this way. It's not right. Don't you realize that your time is precious? There's so much that you could be thinking about. There's so much that's actually worth your attention and dare I say innovation. For example, this:
--LinkRemoved--


Sup JY! Thanks for hoppin in the group to clarify that for those people. I feel like I know you after watching all your LG vids and listening to your proctoring. Those vids are really a steal.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby BillPackets » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:17 am

7sage wrote:
ilikebaseball wrote:
rebexness wrote:
ilikebaseball wrote:Okay guys, we have 7 people that are gonna split 7sage. That's enough for now... great job and I'll be in touch with all of you later tonight!!


Why do I feel like 7sage isn't going to be DTF with your plan to let multiple people piggyback on one account?

We dont know. Guess we'll find out. I've heard about a group doing it in the past though so its worth a shot.


J.Y. from 7Sage here.

We're not DTF. The LSAC is not DTF.

If we see too many random IPs from all over the place your account gets locked down. We send one email attached to the account and ask for a password reset. If that person shares the new password again, the account gets locked down again, longer this time. Rinse, repeat.

You want to do this, remember if these people are okay with scamming us, the same ones are okay with scamming you. That's why they say there's no honor among thieves.

If the LSAC gets wind of this and asks us about it, we will 100% disclose the compromised account. This means whoever's paying for the account is bearing all the risk. Even from a purely selfish perspective, it's a bad deal.

Also, why are you guys wasting your time scheming like this? You guys want to be lawyers one day right? Don't start your non-existent legal careers this way. It's not right. Don't you realize that your time is precious? There's so much that you could be thinking about. There's so much that's actually worth your attention and dare I say innovation. For example, this:
--LinkRemoved--


Thanks for calling out these schisters JY.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby flash21 » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:25 am

As someone who took the 7sage course, yeah this is ridiculous.

J.Y provides free LG videos, a course that is literally 1/5 the price of other competing programs and people still want to get it even CHEAPER than he is giving it for? J.Y. talks about how its B.S. how expensive LSAT material is and goes out of his way to help all of us by making things dirt cheap and providing free tools like the prep test rather and the logic games explanations, along with the blog. Don't make people who do you favours regret that they did them for you.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Gray » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:28 am

7sage wrote:J.Y. from 7Sage here.

We're not DTF. The LSAC is not DTF.


still lolling at this use of DTF.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Colonel_funkadunk » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:30 am

smccgrey wrote:
7sage wrote:J.Y. from 7Sage here.

We're not DTF. The LSAC is not DTF.


still lolling at this use of DTF.


Agreed.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Gray » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:38 am

mornincounselor wrote:While I'm glad to see J.Y. posting in this thread and it's funny to see him using this jersey shore vernacular... If you're going to work together to scam a test prep company why do it to the one company which both (a) is already the most moderately priced; (b) already offers up a video for every single logic game for free online?

On second thought how about you just don't scam at all. We are so lucky that the options aren't just (1) be unprepared, or (2) pay thousands for a sub-par course or personal tutor.


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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby bound » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:45 am

Lol why would you post on TLS that you're going to scam JY? *face palm*

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby santoki » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:49 am

i took a long hiatus from TLS ever since the june exam, but here we go again.

how are yall feeling? the working + studying grind is getting to me and i'm having a tough time motivating myself to work tirelessly at night.

with a month and a half to go, my PT schedule is going to be 2 PTs per week. i know it's not a lot to some of you but for me it's a tall order.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby hillz » Fri Aug 15, 2014 12:31 pm

santoki wrote:i took a long hiatus from TLS ever since the june exam, but here we go again.

how are yall feeling? the working + studying grind is getting to me and i'm having a tough time motivating myself to work tirelessly at night.

with a month and a half to go, my PT schedule is going to be 2 PTs per week. i know it's not a lot to some of you but for me it's a tall order.


Yup, working and studying is tough. I just wanna watch Netflix when I get home.

I'm going to do even fewer PTs than you. I did a bunch of PTs for my June test and now I'm focusing more on drilling with a PT on the weekend. My goal is to not get burnt out...I feel like that's more important than trying to squeeze in a bunch of PTs.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby chimera » Fri Aug 15, 2014 12:52 pm

It's a parallel party--I'm hitting parallel/parallel flaw this weekend too. Top lel at 7sage coming in and laying down the law. Discussing how to break the terms and conditions of an agreement on a public message board? You're gonna have a bad time.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby schmelling » Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:13 pm

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby blacklungz » Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:14 pm

While taking a PT or timed sections, do you guys save your Parallel Reasoning/Flaw questions until last?

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Toby Ziegler » Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:15 pm

blacklungz wrote:While taking a PT or timed sections, do you guys save your Parallel Reasoning/Flaw questions until last?

I go straight through everything but logic games. If I get tripped up on a question, however, I will mark it and come back. But I don't intentionally find questions to skip in LR.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby MtnGinger » Fri Aug 15, 2014 2:03 pm

hillz wrote:
santoki wrote:i took a long hiatus from TLS ever since the june exam, but here we go again.

how are yall feeling? the working + studying grind is getting to me and i'm having a tough time motivating myself to work tirelessly at night.

with a month and a half to go, my PT schedule is going to be 2 PTs per week. i know it's not a lot to some of you but for me it's a tall order.


Yup, working and studying is tough. I just wanna watch Netflix when I get home.

I'm going to do even fewer PTs than you. I did a bunch of PTs for my June test and now I'm focusing more on drilling with a PT on the weekend. My goal is to not get burnt out...I feel like that's more important than trying to squeeze in a bunch of PTs.

I feel the same I did maybe 25 pts in the three months before June and my score kept dropping. Now I've only done 2 in the last month 173 and 175. It feels like I'm slacking and is hard to not test but i'm loving my improved score and don't want to risk burnout like last time.

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Gray » Fri Aug 15, 2014 2:09 pm

MtnGinger wrote:
hillz wrote:
santoki wrote:i took a long hiatus from TLS ever since the june exam, but here we go again.

how are yall feeling? the working + studying grind is getting to me and i'm having a tough time motivating myself to work tirelessly at night.

with a month and a half to go, my PT schedule is going to be 2 PTs per week. i know it's not a lot to some of you but for me it's a tall order.


Yup, working and studying is tough. I just wanna watch Netflix when I get home.

I'm going to do even fewer PTs than you. I did a bunch of PTs for my June test and now I'm focusing more on drilling with a PT on the weekend. My goal is to not get burnt out...I feel like that's more important than trying to squeeze in a bunch of PTs.

I feel the same I did maybe 25 pts in the three months before June and my score kept dropping. Now I've only done 2 in the last month 173 and 175. It feels like I'm slacking and is hard to not test but i'm loving my improved score and don't want to risk burnout like last time.


Yeah my highest PT score came after a couple of weeks off - felt pretty good! For me, 2 PTs per week is plenty as long as you're drilling a little here and there...

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Re: The Official September 2014 Study Group

Postby Louis1127 » Fri Aug 15, 2014 2:09 pm

Ugh... There is always something in a PT that keep me confined to the low-mid (but mostly low) 160s.

Whether it's a tough RC passage that I bomb, a tough game that I bomb, or a rare LR section that I bomb- there is always something.

I'm continuing to drill all three sections with as deep review as possible. I have been drilling LR untimed and writing out explanations for pretty much every question so that hopefully I Get better. Soon, I will be back to PTing normally again with all sections timed and a 5th section, etc.




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